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jacklaidlaw 04-21-2009 12:53 PM

Zango gone bust!!!
 
Finally!!!!!!!!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/21/zango/

The following quote is from here this seems to be the most interesting part for the adult community
http://blog.wouldbetheologian.com/
Quote:

Zango was unfairly charged with affiliate commission stealing. This is a complicated story, and I'll forgive anyone who doesn't want to read through the gory details. Back in 2004-2005, Commission Junction and LinkShare were two of Zango's largest advertisers, and we were one of their largest publishers. We displayed targeted ads promoting their advertisers' products, took a share of the proceeds when a user bought something, and pretty much everybody was happy. Initially, we sometimes used the advertiser's home page as a targeting mechanism, and I'll have to confess, this never struck me as particularly fair to the advertiser. (If the user is already sitting on eBay's site, why should we get a commission if the user happens to make their purchase through our ad rather than their original browser instance?) There are some instances when home page targeting is justified: if Alaska doesn't want Southwest's ad to show up when someone visits their website, they should pay for the privilege. (You'll note whose ad shows up when you google "Dell", and that doesn't happen for free.) But most of the time, I think the advertisers who complained about it had a reasonable point. However, as soon as LinkShare and CJ asked us to stop this practice, we did so. We even implemented a number of fairly complicated and expensive features to ensure that we wouldn't inadvertently display ads that would violate their terms of service. (In fact, Ben Edelman once badly misinterpreted a packet sniff to imply that we were being particularly nefarious, when what it actually showed was us trying desperately not to step on somebody's home page, and going through some admittedly strange gyrations to refrain from doing so.)

But here's the frustrating part. Imagine the following scenario. A user with Zango's software visits a CJ publisher who is promoting some eBay products. That publisher sets a cookie on the user's machine that says, in effect, "If this user buys something from eBay, I get the commission." But then, before the user visits the eBay site, but after the first cookie was set, Zango happens to pop an ad that sets a different cookie, this one claiming the eBay commission for Zango. Given this scenario, I'm perfectly willing to grant that Zango should not get the commission, and the original publisher should.

So the question is: how do you make sure that the first publisher gets it, and Zango doesn't? For a variety of reasons, this was a difficult scenario to prevent from Zango's side. (Among other things, how are we to know that the site in question belongs to a CJ affiliate?) This is a very simple problem to prevent, however, if you are Commission Junction or LinkShare. Your script should just place different cookies for each publisher, and you should give the commission to the owner of the cookie with the earliest timestamp rather than the latest. But for reasons that I don't understand, neither CJ nor LinkShare would agree to make this simple change: and eventually, under pressure from their other publishers, they stopped doing business with us altogether, to nobody's benefit.

I should note that this is made a little more complicated by the fact that some of the folks who advertised through Zango did in fact engage in nefarious cookie stuffing and commission stealing. The way that Zango's advertising system worked, an advertiser could make the link they insert do pretty much anything allowed by the browser sandbox. And some of our advertisers did engage in commission stealing. It was never possible to catch every instance of this, but we did our darned best, and implemented a number of processes, systems and features to catch folks who were trying to do so. In the end, the extent of such third-party advertiser fraud was minimal.

There's been a lot written about Zango "cookie stuffing", but I should say very clearly: Zango does not stuff cookies, has no interest in stealing somebody else's commission, and did everything it could to prevent this from happening. Yes, Zango did display targeted ads, and would have liked to display ads from affiliate networks: but those ads introduced an ambiguity into the process which the affiliate networks refused to resolve. The net result was that Zango was shut out from what once had been, and should have remained, a mutually beneficial and profitable advertising channel.

Intrinsic 04-21-2009 12:57 PM

major news!

Cyber Fucker 04-21-2009 12:59 PM

Good news! Nevertheless, there is so much more scamming shitware like this around the whole web.

Carmine Raguso 04-21-2009 01:01 PM

SuckOnThis will blame it on the Bush administration. Who cares... they were a shady company, the owners made millions and will re-open shop tomorrow as pornobucksdude.com - play the bro-card and then be raking it in again.

Get a grip.

Manowar 04-21-2009 01:02 PM

cookie stuffing, legendary

CyberHustler 04-21-2009 01:04 PM

Todays news in the zangocash affiliate area:

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2009-04-21
ZangoCash Update

On Thursday, April 16th, 2009, certain assets of Zango Inc, including ZangoCash, were purchased by Pinball. Pinball is taking these assets, and, with approximately 60 former Zango employees, is rebuilding and reshaping a new business. Pinball a is well-funded, healthy company with millions available to expand our business.

What does this mean for ZangoCash? BUSINESS AS USUAL. You make installs, we pay for them. The more you make, the more we pay. Same rates, same dates. Look for more tools and content in the future.

Thank you for your patience during this transition, we look forward to a continued prosperous partnership with you.

The ZangoCash Team

Barefootsies 04-21-2009 01:04 PM

Interesting news. Good read.
:2 cents:

StuartD 04-21-2009 01:05 PM

zan-gone!

halfpint 04-21-2009 01:05 PM

Hi dude how you doing havent heard from you in ages, Hit me up on ICQ sometime

cybermike 04-21-2009 01:06 PM

so are my sales suppose to go back up now? :O

Furious_Male 04-21-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 15769337)
Todays news in the zangocash affiliate area:

Yes I saw one of the Zango reps post the same info on another board.

Quote:

On Thursday, April 16th, 2009, certain assets of Zango Inc were purchased by Pinball. Pinball is taking these assets, and, with approximately 60 former Zango employees, is rebuilding and reshaping a new business. Pinball a is well-funded, healthy company with millions available to expand our business.

As far as ZangoCash is concerned: BUSINESS AS USUAL, you make installs we pay for them. The more you make, the more we pay. Look for more tools and content in the future.

Payouts: same rates, same dates, never late. Thank you for your patience during this transition.
It looks like they are shifting some things around.

AtlantisCash 04-21-2009 01:21 PM

promote pinball, be rich...

Denny 04-21-2009 01:27 PM

good news :thumbsup

CyberHustler 04-21-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 15769478)
good news :thumbsup

I'd fuck that girl in your avatar.

Manowar 04-21-2009 01:39 PM

pinballlll

USUALENT 04-21-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 15769357)

It looks like they are shifting some things around.

yep that what I get from reading it:(

Jakez 04-21-2009 01:48 PM

So now it can be ironic when your balls feel like they've been wacked with sticks.

Elixir 04-21-2009 01:49 PM

AMAZING news !!!!

Diomed 04-21-2009 01:49 PM

I wish that Zango fag would show up in this thread :2 cents:

PornMD 04-21-2009 01:50 PM

So where's that one Zangofag that was posting about their new anti-piracy measure and how many large media companies were already on board? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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grumpy 04-21-2009 01:50 PM

why dont we write a zango hicker? enough good programmers here. I will volunteer.

the.drunk 04-21-2009 01:51 PM

goodbye zango

PornMD 04-21-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 15769651)
I wish that Zango fag would show up in this thread :2 cents:

LOL beat me by a minute! :thumbsup

Ozarkz 04-21-2009 01:54 PM

That Zango guy was claiming he was not a part of Zango he had left Zango. :1orglaugh

just a punk 04-21-2009 01:58 PM

Good news and fuck zango!

stickyfingerz 04-21-2009 01:59 PM

That zango nick was a fake nick fucking around you guys realized that right? lol :1orglaugh

crockett 04-21-2009 02:01 PM

lol good news going round the last few days.. first Pirate bay ..guilty now Zango goes out..

FreeHugeMovies 04-21-2009 02:05 PM

Zango 4 Life

crockett 04-21-2009 02:13 PM

btw.. I hope to hell that some of the GFY users here whom promoted them got shafted and don't get paid. Anyone whom promoted that shit deserves to get ripped..

notime 04-21-2009 02:24 PM

oh well, I'll drink to that. Cheers!

Robocrop 04-21-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15769798)
lol good news going round the last few days.. first Pirate bay ..guilty now Zango goes out..

Yea and the verdict really affected TPB ;)

:1orglaugh

cykoe6 04-21-2009 02:32 PM

Fuck Zango. Good riddance.

polish_aristocrat 04-21-2009 02:39 PM

The impact of Zango has been exaggerated IMO.

kowalsky 04-21-2009 02:51 PM

Hasta la vista Zango!

brassmonkey 04-21-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15769994)
Fuck Zango. Good riddance.

what he said:2 cents:

Nookster 04-21-2009 02:57 PM

Accessory is just as bad as primary. Good riddens. :2 cents:

EuroRevenueUSA 04-21-2009 03:53 PM

very very good news!!

mineistaken 04-21-2009 04:42 PM

why you salute it if those fucktards are continue to be alive and install their shitware as usual?
ref post #6

Ozarkz 04-21-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15769776)
That zango nick was a fake nick fucking around you guys realized that right? lol :1orglaugh

That's some good trolling he was really into it.

STAROTICA 04-21-2009 05:02 PM

and another one bites the dust....http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra.../tombstone.gif

DWB 04-21-2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 15769680)
So where's that one Zangofag that was posting about their new anti-piracy measure and how many large media companies were already on board? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Did you not get a chance to demo that? Un-Fucking-Real!!! We tried for two days to record the stream, even put a video camera in front of the computer and all that recorded was scan lines. I hate to say it but all of you who laughed at him are total dipshits. I've never seen anything like it. :2 cents:

BTW... he stopped working for Zango like a year ago back when they downsized. He posted about that way back when. Again, you guys are dipshits. This is a new company he is working for now but he foolishly kept his old username. I advised him of a name change but he said this board wasn't that important to their business and they only wanted the top players. Cliff notes, little guys with no money or no drive to be in the industry long term, they could give a shit about. I can't blame them really.

DWB 04-21-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarkz (Post 15769717)
That Zango guy was claiming he was not a part of Zango he had left Zango. :1orglaugh

A while ago.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=836032

Ozarkz 04-21-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15771528)

Ahh. I remember seeing that.

TheSenator 04-21-2009 08:48 PM

http://www.zango.com

Still up and running.

$5 submissions 04-21-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 15769319)
Good news! Nevertheless, there is so much more scamming shitware like this around the whole web.

True. It's gotten way way more advanced than that and more viral. Social media sites are very vulnerable "inoculation" grounds for such crap :disgust:Oh crap:mad:

missipissi 04-21-2009 09:06 PM

This is the EXACT same scenario these guys pulled when Hotbar got busted and 180 Solutions "bought their assets" and rebranded them as Zango.

Sound familiar?

They settled soon after for a million or three to the FTC. Swept it under the rug. BUSINESS AS USUAL.

Things don't change. Just the business names do. :2 cents:

LoveSandra 04-21-2009 09:17 PM

That`s great.
Fuck Zango.

MrCodey 04-21-2009 09:37 PM

Cyanara, no tears here

Sexyblogger 04-21-2009 10:10 PM

pour Zango :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DWB 04-21-2009 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarkz (Post 15771545)
Ahh. I remember seeing that.

Yea, he's been gone for a while but not very bright to keep the Zango username. :2 cents:


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