Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15745265)

YouTube Is Doomed



Comments please.

I think they will run it for ever as a tax loss. But it proves traffic is only the first step, you have to sell the traffic something to make a profit.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15745885)

Data on people looking at videos on Youtube. Manner from heaven. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15749698)

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Google is sort of a phony. They had one success with one product. Everything else they've done has either been a buyout, or they just copied another service. In fact, adwords was just a copy of Overture.

If they were such a great company they would be innovating more, but honestly, I can't think of one innovation they've had.

Don't get me wrong, they've made a shitload of money and deserve every penny of it and even the janitor over there is probably smarter than me. But I think they are a one hit wonder.

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15746200)

I don't have an expert opinion on this but the idea that Google is too diabolically clever to ever make a mistake or pursue a dead end strategy is ridiculous. 10 years ago it was Microsoft and Yahoo who could do no wrong and would soon take over the entire world. As companies become bigger and require more market share to keep their growth rates high enough to please the markets they have a tendency to overreach. Market share and revenue growth do not always equal long term profitability.

Originally Posted by montel (Post 15746253)

So they spend 600 mil a year to get that data? Seem kinda pricey considering they surely get enough information from their search engine. What would you rather- raw search terms from Google or finding out that the person is a habitual watcher of cute panda home movies (which they would likely know from the search terms on Google already - that is my whole point here.)

If you add on some other data collection points like Google Analytics on god only knows how many pages and also Gmail reading all your mail already, Youtube for data collection at 600 mil a year seems a bit of a rich?

No, Google wanted to monetize it with ads and found they couldn't. They fucked up so far and it is looking like a mistake. Claims this 600 mil a year of value is gained though data collection could only be swallowed the most committed Google fanboy.

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 15749648)

"Manner" from heaven, lol? You "should of" known better, Paul!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15749698)

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Google is sort of a phony. They had one success with one product. Everything else they've done has either been a buyout, or they just copied another service. In fact, adwords was just a copy of Overture.

If they were such a great company they would be innovating more, but honestly, I can't think of one innovation they've had.

Don't get me wrong, they've made a shitload of money and deserve every penny of it and even the janitor over there is probably smarter than me. But I think they are a one hit wonder.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15750087)

People here thought they were diabolically clever and nothing would go wrong. Then Tubes hit them. :Oh crap

Data on millions of kids watching other kids on skate boards is not worth 600 million?



Whoops, I can't spell. LOL


There are lots of multi millionaires and billionaires who made it because they got in early.

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For the record I doubt if feeding out thousands of videos to millions of people for free like they have on Youtube is such a great idea. Traffic costs money until it buys something. Just having a surfer on your site is not the solution. Getting him to buy something is.

But as we know a lot feel traffic is king and when you have as much money as Google you can write off $600,000,000 a year to prove traffic is king. :1orglaugh

Will it change? Would love someone to point out how. Clearly all the clever guys at Google don't know how to. But then maybe one of my detractors has the answer. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15749698)

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Google is sort of a phony. They had one success with one product. Everything else they've done has either been a buyout, or they just copied another service. In fact, adwords was just a copy of Overture.

If they were such a great company they would be innovating more, but honestly, I can't think of one innovation they've had.

Don't get me wrong, they've made a shitload of money and deserve every penny of it and even the janitor over there is probably smarter than me. But I think they are a one hit wonder.

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 15750197)

In this case, traffic does not necessary have to buy something immediatly to be "monetizable". They can show ads that increase brand awareness etc - with all the new tech and flash video banners that's more than possible. Hey they're video site after all.

For example those skater kids who watch other kids skating, they do not necessary have to buy new skate on the spot - you can show tham your flash ad and promo reel to ensure next time they go shopping they remember your brand (meaning, this thing can work the same way TV ads work).

Originally Posted by Davy (Post 15753827)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10221459-93.html


http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10221501-93.html

Hulu, here they come! :2 cents: