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|  04-07-2009, 12:24 PM | #1 | 
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				pimpmansion fucked me
			 been sending craigspimp traffic to pimpmansion/hornymatches for the past 8 months, no major problems but very poor affiliate support and communication.  then i switched sponsors and they fucked me for around 5k.  you've been warned 
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|  04-07-2009, 12:24 PM | #2 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 
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				 | Why don't you have a seat right over there | 
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|  04-07-2009, 12:43 PM | #4 | 
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				 | I thought this was a thread with a video in it. My Bad. Good Luck Getting it sorted  | 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:08 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Eddie, While I'm not the person you spoke with, I am familair with your account. I believe you were told that your account is not meeting our rebill expectations for a weekly PPS payout. We asked that all future traffic be sent to a new account on revshare payouts and you would be paid for all existing traffic per the terms. How is this fucking you out of $5k? lol 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:10 PM | #6 | 
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				 | You should of contacted Sharky first before making this dumb fucking thread 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:11 PM | #7 | 
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				 | hmmmmm smells fishy | 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:12 PM | #8 | 
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				 | He said he changed sponsors, so I take it there will be no switching and sending revshare sales. 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:16 PM | #9 | 
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				 | That is his choice.  We have many happy affiliates who send traffic that rebills;-) 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:19 PM | #10 | 
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				 | I'm doing great with revshare on hornymatches   
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|  04-07-2009, 01:21 PM | #11 | 
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				 | Indeed you are!  Your checks are getting bigger and bigger;-) 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:25 PM | #12 | 
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				 | Programs can't stay in business if their affiliates are costing them more than they are bringing in. | 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:31 PM | #13 | 
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				 | my traffic rebills fine.  anyone who wants screenshots of my account just ask.  i have 104 sales i havnt been paid for, then suddenly 'my traffic doesnt rebill' which is a load of crap, since ive never heard this shit from any other sponsor.  and i'm a guy who sends 100+ daily joins to big programs, both cams and dating.  craigspimp is a huge fucking program with 1100 affiliates.  these pimpmansion guys hardly ever respond to emails and treat their affiliates like dogshit.  then when you switch sponsors, they just fuck you for all the joins that come in after that.  ive dealt with a lot of dating programs over the past year and never had such a shitty experience.  i guess theyre fine if you send 5 joins a day, but when you start sending real volume they will screw you over, trust me. 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:34 PM | #14 | 
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				 | and as far as 'rebills' go, thats not my problem.  i get people to pay for a membership on your site, after that its up to you what happens.  if your site sucks, then sure theyre not going to rebill.  if you dont know how to do billing and retentions thats your problem not mine.  all i can do is send traffic to the site and get you signups.  i cant help you retain your own customers, thats absurd. 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:36 PM | #15 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 
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				 | I always wonder what "The real story" is.. I wonder how often the program really is just trying to fuck the affiliate out of his honest commission because they can't afford to pay it out. | 
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|  04-07-2009, 01:38 PM | #16 | |
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 I don't spam craigslist or other sites looking for desperate clicks, but I imagine, they would have the shittiest rebills ever. I'm not sure how its the sponsors fault if your traffic isn't converting. When you are spamming people pretending to look for dates. Misrepresentation at best. 
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|  04-07-2009, 03:28 PM | #17 | |
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 We don't fuck anyone over and we have a great reputation among the webmasters.. Myself or Sharky always respond to our webmasters and I'm always online..! I also answer our Live help and i never once got a msg from you.. You airing your dirty laundry on the boards without trying to straighten this out is very unprofessional of you.. 
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|  04-07-2009, 03:29 PM | #18 | 
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				 | me to   | 
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|  04-07-2009, 03:46 PM | #19 | 
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				 | they promise to me that they will pay me 100 $ for the promo .... sended mail from - [email protected] epass : pornmarkiz MattJustin , Sharky please fix that i know your program is great  | 
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|  04-07-2009, 03:51 PM | #20 | 
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				 | u didnt get paid yet? I thought everyone was paid already.. we posted a thread a few weeks ago to see if anyone still was owed money..  hit me up on icq please.. 
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|  04-07-2009, 03:54 PM | #21 | |
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 So naturally, none of the contest whores read it. 
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|  04-07-2009, 03:54 PM | #22 | 
| I’m still alive barley. Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va 
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				 | Damn another program bites the dust, supprised to see sharky involved, thought he was a stand up guy   
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|  04-07-2009, 03:56 PM | #23 | 
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				 | sharky is always around and on icq   
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|  04-07-2009, 04:06 PM | #24 | 
| By the wrath of Agamemnon Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Miami 
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				 | Been promoting PimpMansion for almost a year and I couldn't be any happier with them. I deal with Sharky and Roger and always get prompt reply.   
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|  04-07-2009, 04:33 PM | #25 | 
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				 | Yeah Sharky is really hard to get a hold of   /sarcasm  
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|  04-07-2009, 04:41 PM | #26 | |
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 Eddie, hit me up on icq if you would like to continue this. As I said, noone told you that you wouldn't be paid for the sales already sent. We told you that any future traffic you send should be sent through revshare, not your PPS account until further review. Our sites convert and retain. When we see an account with high volume which doesn't have the rebill numbers expected our "caution radar" goes up. This is business and we are treating it as such. I hope you understand this. Everyone should know this isn't a case of an affiliate pulling traffic so we won't pay him. We were approached by him saying he was unhappy with his current sponsor and wanted to send more volume traffic to us IF we could pay him on Mondays for the previous weeks traffic. This prompted us to review his account and notice the rebill issues I mentioned earlier. We switched his account to our normal payout schedule of twice a month and notified him of this. The extra sales he mentions WILL be paid in full, but on our regular payout schedule. He has been notified this. 
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|  04-07-2009, 05:13 PM | #28 | 
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				 | What did you see in Phoenix, where were the pics!  haha 
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|  04-07-2009, 05:30 PM | #29 | |
| I’m still alive barley. Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va 
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|  04-07-2009, 05:54 PM | #30 | 
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				 | Eddie, Your account has been flagged for fraud over a week ago. Probable use of pre-paid credit cards mixed in with your legitimate traffic. We did not wish to bring this up until we had solid proof. But since you have posted this thread we are forced to address the issue. In response to this concern, you were informed a week ago that you would no longer be on a pay per sale basis or weekly payout plan. You were informed that if you wished to continue to promote our program you would be paid like a normal affiliate. You were never told that you would not be paid on your remaining sales. We would never withhold payment without absolute proof of fraud. I assume you have posted this because you did not get an immediate reply from the email you sent Roger yesterday. In case you were wondering, we all suck at golf, but had a great time playing today. Regards, Willy | 
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|  04-07-2009, 05:59 PM | #31 | |
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|  04-07-2009, 06:02 PM | #32 | |
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|  04-07-2009, 06:07 PM | #33 | |
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|  04-07-2009, 06:08 PM | #34 | 
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|  04-07-2009, 06:11 PM | #35 | 
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				 | i dont get this reply from willywonka it is strange 
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|  04-07-2009, 06:46 PM | #36 | 
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|  04-07-2009, 07:36 PM | #37 | 
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				 | BUMP for WILLY! | 
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|  04-07-2009, 08:01 PM | #38 | |
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 Email: [email protected] Skype: willywonka212 MSN: [email protected] ICQ: 380873041 AIM: wonkawilly212 | |
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|  04-07-2009, 10:17 PM | #39 | 
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				 | Willy was explaining what I said in more detail.  lol.  Oh, and he had to rub it in that he was golfing today while I was working!  ugh! 
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|  04-07-2009, 10:51 PM | #40 | |
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 You just throw the 'fraud' accusation in there to try and discredit me because your program is so bloody poor. At any rate, I've been sending you traffic since august 2008 and upwards of $500k+ joins, so it's pretty weird if I suddenly started ripping you off, don't you think? I have no problem with the way your program converts. What I *DO* have a problem with is: 1. your complete lack of response when an affiliate tries to contact you 2. you seem to not give two shits about your affiliates, even the big ones 3. you withhold payment when someone stops sending you traffic! glad i wasn't on the revshare program ... then i'd be out some real cash 
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|  04-07-2009, 10:52 PM | #41 | |
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|  04-07-2009, 10:56 PM | #42 | 
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				 | i contacted 'sharky', 'willy wonka' and 'roger rabbit' .. all the pimpmansion guys i know, prior to starting this thread.  As usual, no response. I don't like having to air my shit in public, but i think other affiliates have a right to know about programs that fuck you over when you stop sending joins. 
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|  04-07-2009, 11:21 PM | #43 | |
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|  04-07-2009, 11:38 PM | #44 | 
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				 | Lovely double talk, all you do is encourage your affiliates to post bullshit posts to drive traffic to you.  Your affiliates post thousands of bogus singles ads and then you auto respond with outright lies in hopes luring in the poor sap, nice.  No wonder your sales don't rebill and I can see why you wouldn't want to be on revshare. 
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|  04-08-2009, 03:08 PM | #46 | |
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|  04-08-2009, 03:12 PM | #47 | |
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 As Willy mentioned, your account was flagged as possible fraud and upon your request for payouts with even less lag we made the decision to ask you not to send anymore traffic via your PPS links. You were never told you woulnd't be paid for the traffic you sent:-) 
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|  04-08-2009, 03:17 PM | #48 | |
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|  04-08-2009, 03:25 PM | #49 | 
| All Your Design Needs | Eddie with all these sales it would be great if you paid me for the design I did on Loveranger several months ago !!! I have called e-mailed and icqed several times... do a search for this guy before you deal with him.. seems he has a record of shady things.. 
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|  04-08-2009, 03:30 PM | #50 | 
| All Your Design Needs | 
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