The Pirate Bay found GUILTY!!!

[milambur]

http://www.domstol.se/templates/DV_Press____10382.aspx

1 year in prison each.

[aniloscash]

arent that on some tropical island

[JD]

english?

[Robocrop]

Well its like this in Sweden.

If you get sentenced to 1 year you only do time 6-7 months.

They will still be multimilionares when they get out ...so who cares about 6-7 months really? Oh and the jails in Sweden arent like in the states. I wouldnt be suprised if they will go to a jail without fence

Yet another victory for TPB if you see it from PR view. They will just get more supporters now.

[milambur]

They are to pay $3.5 Million in damages to media companies as well.

[kane]

I used the google translator to read the article.

It is interesting for sure. I wonder if this ruling will have effects on other torrent sites.

[Juicy D. Links]

where do i download my porno now?

[Ron2k1]

I wonder if this affects other torrent sites like puretna.com but I doubt it

[milambur]

Originally Posted by kane

I used the google translator to read the article.

It is interesting for sure. I wonder if this ruling will have effects on other torrent sites.

It's not a article, it is a press release from the court house.

[Robocrop]

TPB will drive this case to supreme court anyway. This aint the end of this story I would assume.

[Domain Diva]

Can they appeal ?

[Barefootsies]

Not possible.

Gideongallery time shifted them away to an alternate universe.

[Zorgman]

Juicy, another one will pop up very soon, they always do. 1 goes down, 2 go up.

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by Robocrop

Oh and the jails in Sweden arent like in the states. I wouldnt be suprised if they will go to a jail without fence

I watched a documentary about the Swedish jais, the cells looked really decent, I wouldn't mind spending a month there just to chill out and do nothing...

[martinsc]

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...erdict-090417/

[quantum-x]

http://www.thelocal.se/18908.html In English.
Will be tied up in appeals for years.

[darksoul]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

Will be tied up in appeals for years.

Exactly. It aint over yet.

[Paul Markham]

Pirate Bay founders found guilty

Good news indeed. It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war. Now onto the next bunch of criminals who make a living out of theft.

As for it being tied up in appeal I hope so. It will cost the owners to keep it in appeal and will show others there is no profit in theft. Sad;y today there is, but that's where we attack them. They are in it for money, take that away and they will disappear. Except for a few kids who will do no harm.

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Pirate Bay founders found guilty

Good news indeed. It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war. Now onto the next bunch of criminals who make a living out of theft.

As for it being tied up in appeal I hope so. It will cost the owners to keep it in appeal and will show others there is no profit in theft. Sad;y today there is, but that's where we attack them. They are in it for money, take that away and they will disappear. Except for a few kids who will do no harm.

You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

[milambur]

Originally Posted by Antonio

I watched a documentary about the Swedish jais, the cells looked really decent, I wouldn't mind spending a month there just to chill out and do nothing...

These guys will end up in a prison that don't even have a fence, they will have electronic shackles to restric their movement and during the days they will be able to stay outside on a area the size of couple football fields. They will be able to have visitors with very few restrictions. They might even be able to run the sites from inside the prison.

[duff]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

Exactly. From what I've read the site will continue to operate, uninterrupted. But, at least it means these guys aren't untouchable.

[seeandsee]

we will see

[cess]

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

I think I said this

It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war.

It's another battle won, not a war.

Of course if you have a better strategy then please tell us all, we would love to hear it.

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think I said this



It's another battle won, not a war.

Of course if you have a better strategy then please tell us all, we would love to hear it.

You're so touchy Paul. Want a hug?
TPB (and others of its ilk) bring piracy to the masses. If you offer someone something for $200, or give them a simple means to have it for free, or next to nothing, the vast majority will take that option.

This is true of any product or service. What is missing is an avenue for movies, music, and software to be distributed legally, with the same ease, and realistic pricing schemes.

iTunes made major impact, for the reasons above: suddenly paying $1 a song was easier than trawling TPB.

Companies like vALVE have made headways into online software distribution, too - games are cheaper, and instantly available, downloadable, and playable on any PC that you own - a hell of a lot easier than downloading the cracked version.

TPB is the product of a situation, just as speakeasies were products of prohibition.

The solution? Help foster legal, convenient technologies for the masses to use.
The dedicated pirates will never purchase - but they were never using TPB, anyhow.

[kane]

Originally Posted by duff

Exactly. From what I've read the site will continue to operate, uninterrupted. But, at least it means these guys aren't untouchable.

So I wonder how the site can continue to exist. If they own the site and they are guilty does that not mean they have to then stop the source of that guilt? If they are allowed to continue running the site then it seems that each day the site runs that is another day they are breaking the law they were just found guilty of.

I think I answered my own question. It seems the site is now run by a bunch of different people and not these guys. . . time to find out who they are and go after them too.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

You're so touchy Paul. Want a hug?
TPB (and others of its ilk) bring piracy to the masses. If you offer someone something for $200, or give them a simple means to have it for free, or next to nothing, the vast majority will take that option.

This is true of any product or service. What is missing is an avenue for movies, music, and software to be distributed legally, with the same ease, and realistic pricing schemes.

iTunes made major impact, for the reasons above: suddenly paying $1 a song was easier than trawling TPB.

Companies like vALVE have made headways into online software distribution, too - games are cheaper, and instantly available, downloadable, and playable on any PC that you own - a hell of a lot easier than downloading the cracked version.

TPB is the product of a situation, just as speakeasies were products of prohibition.

The solution? Help foster legal, convenient technologies for the masses to use.
The dedicated pirates will never purchase - but they were never using TPB, anyhow.

I hear what you're saying. I just don't like the negativity some show.

So it's all about price. Again good and glad you will be pricing PrettyInCash.com & TeenGFs.com at a $1 with unlimited downloads.

Seriously I started $5 porn with exactly the thought process you are using here and look how everyone tried to rip that apart. Was it because one of the billers was not working or they were scared $5 might become the price of a porn membership?

So would we be making more money by cutting out the affiliates or giving them a cut of $5 to sites with 20 videos in?

There is also the question of whether the iTunes price is possible because of the people paying full price.

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I hear what you're saying. I just don't like the negativity some show.

So it's all about price. Again good and glad you will be pricing PrettyInCash.com & TeenGFs.com at a $1 with unlimited downloads.

Seriously I started $5 porn with exactly the thought process you are using here and look how everyone tried to rip that apart. Was it because one of the billers was not working or they were scared $5 might become the price of a porn membership?

So would we be making more money by cutting out the affiliates or giving them a cut of $5 to sites with 20 videos in?

There is also the question of whether the iTunes price is possible because of the people paying full price.

Did you read what I posted at all? It's about price and convenience - and it's the same with any product or service.

Will you buy apples at Tesco, 5km down the road for 50p, or at the shop on the corner, 95p? Your considerations were price versus convenience.

iTunes pricing is actually fairly standard in terms of price per track, compared to a CD - but the advantage is convenience: No need to go to a shop, DRM free songs, instant downloads. Value + convenience makes it a much more attractive option than getting a CD, or trawling TPB for the 128kbs cut.

In regards to software, obviously you're not familiar (or ignored) the comments about vALVE and STEAM: they're online downloading platforms for games. They're basically iTunes, but for games. Prices are still realistic ( ~50US for a game), but with the conveniences previously mentioned - and they're very successful.

And yes, TeenGFs has $1 trials, excellent conversions, and great retention. Thanks for noticing ;)

[V_RocKs]

BTW, their prisons are a joke... They will do minimum security with some labor... Like washing dishes, laundry, etc... They almost look like what we'd call a half-way house.

[halfpint]

LOL ..this is the top trending topic on twitter so tweeters get some free traffic to your mainstream sites ..quickly

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

Did you read what I posted at all? It's about price and convenience - and it's the same with any product or service.

Will you buy apples at Tesco, 5km down the road for 50p, or at the shop on the corner, 95p? Your considerations were price versus convenience.

iTunes pricing is actually fairly standard in terms of price per track, compared to a CD - but the advantage is convenience: No need to go to a shop, DRM free songs, instant downloads. Value + convenience makes it a much more attractive option than getting a CD, or trawling TPB for the 128kbs cut.

In regards to software, obviously you're not familiar (or ignored) the comments about vALVE and STEAM: they're online downloading platforms for games. They're basically iTunes, but for games. Prices are still realistic ( ~50US for a game), but with the conveniences previously mentioned - and they're very successful.

And yes, TeenGFs has $1 trials, excellent conversions, and great retention. Thanks for noticing ;)

You never got my point. So I did not make it clear enough.

This industry over prices it's product in relationship to the customers needs and convenience. Some sites with 40 scenes on are only worth $1 because it's the same scene, just a different girl. Some customers only want one scene today and want to try a few to see the one that really suits them. So why doesn't this industry gear itself to pricing the customers will pay rather than force a few into paying a lot?

So my point is, if you missed it, why doesn't this industry price itself to suit the customers needs.

On PMT we do $2.95 trials and $5 for 3 days, the $5 for 3 days are the most popular. Not because there is anything wrong with the site. It's as you say it suits the customers needs more. They come back when they're ready to come back. Some very often. One guy once a week, I assume it's when his wife is out.

In regards to programs, are they selling them legally? If so all is fine. but is it being paid for by the full price joins?

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You never got my point. So I did not make it clear enough.

This industry over prices it's product in relationship to the customers needs and convenience. Some sites with 40 scenes on are only worth $1 because it's the same scene, just a different girl. Some customers only want one scene today and want to try a few to see the one that really suits them. So why doesn't this industry gear itself to pricing the customers will pay rather than force a few into paying a lot?

So my point is, if you missed it, why doesn't this industry price itself to suit the customers needs.

On PMT we do $2.95 trials and $5 for 3 days, the $5 for 3 days are the most popular. Not because there is anything wrong with the site. It's as you say it suits the customers needs more. They come back when they're ready to come back. Some very often. One guy once a week, I assume it's when his wife is out.

In regards to programs, are they selling them legally? If so all is fine. but is it being paid for by the full price joins?

I wasn't talking about porn at all Paul.

And jesus, did it ever occur that you could type 'valve steam' into google and get the answer?

[NinjaSteve]

How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

[bmchunu]

I have to agree with quantum-x .. it's a case of adapt or die ... whether the tubes or pirate bay kill you .. it doesn't matter. The world and business in general has always been survival of the fittest ... and the online adult industry is only starting to realise that now!!

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

Seems the site was pulling in 1.2M a year, according to one article.

[StaceyJo]

Interesting...

[acrylix]

Originally Posted by martinsc

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...erdict-090417/

LMAO at all the freeloaders ("timeshifters") on there threatening to never pay for a CD again.

[bobby666]

will thye have internet in their prison cells?

[Manowar]

bet they weren't expecting that

[james_clickmemedia]

TPB has been slow since the trial so I switched to MiniNova...

[Klen]

Silly question:so this mean site piratebay wont exits anymore?I think that is most important,sending someone to jail and giving penalty wont do much if site continue to operate.

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Silly question:so this mean site piratebay wont exits anymore?I think that is most important,sending someone to jail and giving penalty wont do much if site continue to operate.

The site wasn't on trial, and they weren't on trial for running the site.
They were trialed, and charged for copyright infringement.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

The site wasn't on trial, and they weren't on trial for running the site.
They were trialed, and charged for copyright infringement.

Hmm that's kind a weird.I mean that is like i selling illegal guns but they don't took my gun storage because i was on court only for that act.

[halfpint]

Q&A: Pirate Bay verdict

Four men behind the Swedish-based file-sharing website The Pirate Bay have been found guilty of breaking copyright law.

Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Carl Lundstrom and Peter Sunde were each sentenced to a year in jail.

They were also ordered to pay 30m kronor (£2.4m) in damages.

We look at the case and its implications for consumers and producers of entertainment.

What exactly is The Pirate Bay?

It is described is the world's most high profile file-sharing website. It was set up in 2003 by an anti-copyright organisation, Piratbyran, but for the last five years it has been run by individuals.

The site is essentially a forum for people to post music, movies, computer games and other forms of electronic media so that other people can download them without having to buy their own copies - or to pay the copyright holders for them.

The site itself does not actually contain the copyrighted material, but provides links so that it can be found elsewhere.

So how does that work, then?

It's all possible thanks to a piece of software called Bit Torrent, which allows a number of people to download the same programme at the same time.

The key is that as soon as you have downloaded even a small fraction of an album or a TV programme, someone else can upload it from you, without waiting until the file is complete.

The more people sharing the file at any given time, the easier and quicker it is to obtain.

A popular programme can take between five and seven hours to download, while a film can take twice as long and a more obscure programme up to a whole day.

But for broadband internet users, this is no deterrent: it costs nothing more to stay online for 10 hours than five minutes, so many Bit Torrent users leave their computers on overnight or all day.

So what does The Pirate Bay actually do?

It is basically a search engine for Bit Torrent files, commonly known as torrents. These are small files which allow users or "peers" to download the pirated material directly from other users or "seeders".

There are plenty of other such sites on the internet, but not all of them are as popular as The Pirate Bay, which has an estimated 22 million users.

Its sheer success has made it a particular thorn in the side of the music, TV and film industries, which have seen this case as an important step in stamping out the illegal sharing of copyrighted media.

But if there are other ways of finding these files, what difference does this case make?

Well, the four guilty men are basically saying that it makes no difference to them and that their site will continue to operate.

One of them, Peter Sunde, has already said in a Twitter posting that the case is "just theatre for the media" and that nothing will happen to The Pirate Bay.

But even if the site is closed down, there are plenty of others to take its place. Since they are not based in Sweden, this case does not set a legal precedent for clamping down on them, as the battle will have to be waged in other countries' courts.

So this case may make it harder to find pirated movies and music on the internet, but it will be far from impossible.

However, John Kennedy, chairman of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) - the global music industry body - says the case "will send out a message, even to kids, that what they thought was OK, isn't".

He says the verdict will also give a boost to legal internet music services such as Spotify, which also provide free access to music, but within the law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8004060.stm

[pornguy]

Should have slapped when with 50 years each.

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

I have a question? how do the owners of that site make money? (people say they are making millions)

if they give away stuff for free, where does the money come from? oh, and i doubt the ads on the site make much - the because users are all freloaders.

so?

Was just checking the site to see if it is still up, and seen messages like this being posted in the comment section:

latest piratebay news: members of piratebay have been convicted of one year in prison and 3 millions dollars in fine .
i call upon all hackers to fight back and attack all hollywood studios to defend our freedom .

[crockett]

So where are the typical GFY tards that talk about how torrents sites aren't illegal..

This is good news, and will be nice to see the rats start running from the light.

[mr david]

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

Carl Lundström is a swedish multi-miljonaire and founder of one of swedens biggest hosting/colocation datacenters (Port80) where pirate bay hosted one of their boxes. But noone really understands why Carl has been brough into this.

There's too much that doesn't sum up in this verdict to take it seriously, unfortunetaly.

[kenny]

How can it be illegal to run the piratebay and still have it running?

I'm not understanding this.