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milambur 04-17-2009 02:04 AM

The Pirate Bay found GUILTY!!!
 
http://www.domstol.se/templates/DV_Press____10382.aspx

1 year in prison each.

aniloscash 04-17-2009 02:05 AM

arent that on some tropical island

JD 04-17-2009 02:05 AM

english?

Robocrop 04-17-2009 02:06 AM

Well its like this in Sweden.

If you get sentenced to 1 year you only do time 6-7 months.

They will still be multimilionares when they get out ...so who cares about 6-7 months really? Oh and the jails in Sweden arent like in the states. I wouldnt be suprised if they will go to a jail without fence :)

Yet another victory for TPB if you see it from PR view. They will just get more supporters now.

milambur 04-17-2009 02:07 AM

They are to pay $3.5 Million in damages to media companies as well.

kane 04-17-2009 02:12 AM

I used the google translator to read the article.

It is interesting for sure. I wonder if this ruling will have effects on other torrent sites.

Juicy D. Links 04-17-2009 02:12 AM

where do i download my porno now?

Ron2k1 04-17-2009 02:15 AM

I wonder if this affects other torrent sites like puretna.com but I doubt it

milambur 04-17-2009 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 15754052)
I used the google translator to read the article.

It is interesting for sure. I wonder if this ruling will have effects on other torrent sites.

It's not a article, it is a press release from the court house.

Robocrop 04-17-2009 02:17 AM

TPB will drive this case to supreme court anyway. This aint the end of this story I would assume.

Domain Diva 04-17-2009 02:18 AM

Can they appeal ?

Barefootsies 04-17-2009 02:19 AM

Not possible.

Gideongallery time shifted them away to an alternate universe.

Zorgman 04-17-2009 02:20 AM

Juicy, another one will pop up very soon, they always do. 1 goes down, 2 go up.

Antonio 04-17-2009 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop (Post 15754044)
Oh and the jails in Sweden arent like in the states. I wouldnt be suprised if they will go to a jail without fence :)

I watched a documentary about the Swedish jais, the cells looked really decent, I wouldn't mind spending a month there just to chill out and do nothing...

martinsc 04-17-2009 02:31 AM

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...erdict-090417/

quantum-x 04-17-2009 02:33 AM

http://www.thelocal.se/18908.html In English.
Will be tied up in appeals for years.

darksoul 04-17-2009 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754089)
Will be tied up in appeals for years.

Exactly. It aint over yet.

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 02:41 AM

Pirate Bay founders found guilty

Good news indeed. It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war. Now onto the next bunch of criminals who make a living out of theft.

As for it being tied up in appeal I hope so. It will cost the owners to keep it in appeal and will show others there is no profit in theft. Sad;y today there is, but that's where we attack them. They are in it for money, take that away and they will disappear. Except for a few kids who will do no harm.

quantum-x 04-17-2009 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754106)
Pirate Bay founders found guilty

Good news indeed. It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war. Now onto the next bunch of criminals who make a living out of theft.

As for it being tied up in appeal I hope so. It will cost the owners to keep it in appeal and will show others there is no profit in theft. Sad;y today there is, but that's where we attack them. They are in it for money, take that away and they will disappear. Except for a few kids who will do no harm.

You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

milambur 04-17-2009 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 15754082)
I watched a documentary about the Swedish jais, the cells looked really decent, I wouldn't mind spending a month there just to chill out and do nothing...

These guys will end up in a prison that don't even have a fence, they will have electronic shackles to restric their movement and during the days they will be able to stay outside on a area the size of couple football fields. They will be able to have visitors with very few restrictions. They might even be able to run the sites from inside the prison.

duff 04-17-2009 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754112)
You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

Exactly. From what I've read the site will continue to operate, uninterrupted. But, at least it means these guys aren't untouchable.

seeandsee 04-17-2009 02:50 AM

we will see

cess 04-17-2009 02:52 AM

http://op-for.com/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754112)
You do realise though Paul, this ruling has nothing to do with the site. The site continues.

I think I said this

Quote:

It won't win the the war but it's a battle won in the war.
It's another battle won, not a war.

Of course if you have a better strategy then please tell us all, we would love to hear it. :1orglaugh

quantum-x 04-17-2009 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754134)
I think I said this



It's another battle won, not a war.

Of course if you have a better strategy then please tell us all, we would love to hear it. :1orglaugh

You're so touchy Paul. Want a hug?
TPB (and others of its ilk) bring piracy to the masses. If you offer someone something for $200, or give them a simple means to have it for free, or next to nothing, the vast majority will take that option.

This is true of any product or service. What is missing is an avenue for movies, music, and software to be distributed legally, with the same ease, and realistic pricing schemes.

iTunes made major impact, for the reasons above: suddenly paying $1 a song was easier than trawling TPB.

Companies like vALVE have made headways into online software distribution, too - games are cheaper, and instantly available, downloadable, and playable on any PC that you own - a hell of a lot easier than downloading the cracked version.

TPB is the product of a situation, just as speakeasies were products of prohibition.

The solution? Help foster legal, convenient technologies for the masses to use.
The dedicated pirates will never purchase - but they were never using TPB, anyhow.

kane 04-17-2009 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duff (Post 15754119)
Exactly. From what I've read the site will continue to operate, uninterrupted. But, at least it means these guys aren't untouchable.

So I wonder how the site can continue to exist. If they own the site and they are guilty does that not mean they have to then stop the source of that guilt? If they are allowed to continue running the site then it seems that each day the site runs that is another day they are breaking the law they were just found guilty of.

I think I answered my own question. It seems the site is now run by a bunch of different people and not these guys. . . time to find out who they are and go after them too.

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754152)
You're so touchy Paul. Want a hug?
TPB (and others of its ilk) bring piracy to the masses. If you offer someone something for $200, or give them a simple means to have it for free, or next to nothing, the vast majority will take that option.

This is true of any product or service. What is missing is an avenue for movies, music, and software to be distributed legally, with the same ease, and realistic pricing schemes.

iTunes made major impact, for the reasons above: suddenly paying $1 a song was easier than trawling TPB.

Companies like vALVE have made headways into online software distribution, too - games are cheaper, and instantly available, downloadable, and playable on any PC that you own - a hell of a lot easier than downloading the cracked version.

TPB is the product of a situation, just as speakeasies were products of prohibition.

The solution? Help foster legal, convenient technologies for the masses to use.
The dedicated pirates will never purchase - but they were never using TPB, anyhow.

I hear what you're saying. I just don't like the negativity some show.

So it's all about price. Again good and glad you will be pricing PrettyInCash.com & TeenGFs.com at a $1 with unlimited downloads. :1orglaugh

Seriously I started $5 porn with exactly the thought process you are using here and look how everyone tried to rip that apart. Was it because one of the billers was not working or they were scared $5 might become the price of a porn membership?

So would we be making more money by cutting out the affiliates or giving them a cut of $5 to sites with 20 videos in?

There is also the question of whether the iTunes price is possible because of the people paying full price.

quantum-x 04-17-2009 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754159)
I hear what you're saying. I just don't like the negativity some show.

So it's all about price. Again good and glad you will be pricing PrettyInCash.com & TeenGFs.com at a $1 with unlimited downloads. :1orglaugh

Seriously I started $5 porn with exactly the thought process you are using here and look how everyone tried to rip that apart. Was it because one of the billers was not working or they were scared $5 might become the price of a porn membership?

So would we be making more money by cutting out the affiliates or giving them a cut of $5 to sites with 20 videos in?

There is also the question of whether the iTunes price is possible because of the people paying full price.

Did you read what I posted at all? It's about price and convenience - and it's the same with any product or service.

Will you buy apples at Tesco, 5km down the road for 50p, or at the shop on the corner, 95p? Your considerations were price versus convenience.

iTunes pricing is actually fairly standard in terms of price per track, compared to a CD - but the advantage is convenience: No need to go to a shop, DRM free songs, instant downloads. Value + convenience makes it a much more attractive option than getting a CD, or trawling TPB for the 128kbs cut.

In regards to software, obviously you're not familiar (or ignored) the comments about vALVE and STEAM: they're online downloading platforms for games. They're basically iTunes, but for games. Prices are still realistic ( ~50US for a game), but with the conveniences previously mentioned - and they're very successful.

And yes, TeenGFs has $1 trials, excellent conversions, and great retention. Thanks for noticing ;)

V_RocKs 04-17-2009 03:21 AM

BTW, their prisons are a joke... They will do minimum security with some labor... Like washing dishes, laundry, etc... They almost look like what we'd call a half-way house.

halfpint 04-17-2009 03:36 AM

LOL ..this is the top trending topic on twitter so tweeters get some free traffic to your mainstream sites ..quickly

Paul Markham 04-17-2009 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754165)
Did you read what I posted at all? It's about price and convenience - and it's the same with any product or service.

Will you buy apples at Tesco, 5km down the road for 50p, or at the shop on the corner, 95p? Your considerations were price versus convenience.

iTunes pricing is actually fairly standard in terms of price per track, compared to a CD - but the advantage is convenience: No need to go to a shop, DRM free songs, instant downloads. Value + convenience makes it a much more attractive option than getting a CD, or trawling TPB for the 128kbs cut.

In regards to software, obviously you're not familiar (or ignored) the comments about vALVE and STEAM: they're online downloading platforms for games. They're basically iTunes, but for games. Prices are still realistic ( ~50US for a game), but with the conveniences previously mentioned - and they're very successful.

And yes, TeenGFs has $1 trials, excellent conversions, and great retention. Thanks for noticing ;)

You never got my point. So I did not make it clear enough.

This industry over prices it's product in relationship to the customers needs and convenience. Some sites with 40 scenes on are only worth $1 because it's the same scene, just a different girl. Some customers only want one scene today and want to try a few to see the one that really suits them. So why doesn't this industry gear itself to pricing the customers will pay rather than force a few into paying a lot?

So my point is, if you missed it, why doesn't this industry price itself to suit the customers needs.

On PMT we do $2.95 trials and $5 for 3 days, the $5 for 3 days are the most popular. Not because there is anything wrong with the site. It's as you say it suits the customers needs more. They come back when they're ready to come back. Some very often. One guy once a week, I assume it's when his wife is out. :1orglaugh

In regards to programs, are they selling them legally? If so all is fine. but is it being paid for by the full price joins?

quantum-x 04-17-2009 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15754193)
You never got my point. So I did not make it clear enough.

This industry over prices it's product in relationship to the customers needs and convenience. Some sites with 40 scenes on are only worth $1 because it's the same scene, just a different girl. Some customers only want one scene today and want to try a few to see the one that really suits them. So why doesn't this industry gear itself to pricing the customers will pay rather than force a few into paying a lot?

So my point is, if you missed it, why doesn't this industry price itself to suit the customers needs.

On PMT we do $2.95 trials and $5 for 3 days, the $5 for 3 days are the most popular. Not because there is anything wrong with the site. It's as you say it suits the customers needs more. They come back when they're ready to come back. Some very often. One guy once a week, I assume it's when his wife is out. :1orglaugh

In regards to programs, are they selling them legally? If so all is fine. but is it being paid for by the full price joins?


I wasn't talking about porn at all Paul.

And jesus, did it ever occur that you could type 'valve steam' into google and get the answer?

NinjaSteve 04-17-2009 03:52 AM

How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

bmchunu 04-17-2009 03:53 AM

I have to agree with quantum-x .. it's a case of adapt or die ... whether the tubes or pirate bay kill you .. it doesn't matter. The world and business in general has always been survival of the fittest ... and the online adult industry is only starting to realise that now!!

quantum-x 04-17-2009 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 15754204)
How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

Seems the site was pulling in 1.2M a year, according to one article.

StaceyJo 04-17-2009 04:04 AM

Interesting...

acrylix 04-17-2009 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 15754085)

LMAO at all the freeloaders ("timeshifters") on there threatening to never pay for a CD again. :1orglaugh

bobby666 04-17-2009 04:31 AM

will thye have internet in their prison cells?

Manowar 04-17-2009 04:33 AM

bet they weren't expecting that

james_clickmemedia 04-17-2009 04:38 AM

TPB has been slow since the trial so I switched to MiniNova...

Klen 04-17-2009 04:40 AM

Silly question:so this mean site piratebay wont exits anymore?I think that is most important,sending someone to jail and giving penalty wont do much if site continue to operate.

quantum-x 04-17-2009 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 15754280)
Silly question:so this mean site piratebay wont exits anymore?I think that is most important,sending someone to jail and giving penalty wont do much if site continue to operate.

The site wasn't on trial, and they weren't on trial for running the site.
They were trialed, and charged for copyright infringement.

Klen 04-17-2009 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15754282)
The site wasn't on trial, and they weren't on trial for running the site.
They were trialed, and charged for copyright infringement.

Hmm that's kind a weird.I mean that is like i selling illegal guns but they don't took my gun storage because i was on court only for that act.

halfpint 04-17-2009 04:54 AM

Q&A: Pirate Bay verdict

Four men behind the Swedish-based file-sharing website The Pirate Bay have been found guilty of breaking copyright law.

Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Carl Lundstrom and Peter Sunde were each sentenced to a year in jail.

They were also ordered to pay 30m kronor (£2.4m) in damages.

We look at the case and its implications for consumers and producers of entertainment.

What exactly is The Pirate Bay?

It is described is the world's most high profile file-sharing website. It was set up in 2003 by an anti-copyright organisation, Piratbyran, but for the last five years it has been run by individuals.

The site is essentially a forum for people to post music, movies, computer games and other forms of electronic media so that other people can download them without having to buy their own copies - or to pay the copyright holders for them.

The site itself does not actually contain the copyrighted material, but provides links so that it can be found elsewhere.

So how does that work, then?

It's all possible thanks to a piece of software called Bit Torrent, which allows a number of people to download the same programme at the same time.

The key is that as soon as you have downloaded even a small fraction of an album or a TV programme, someone else can upload it from you, without waiting until the file is complete.

The more people sharing the file at any given time, the easier and quicker it is to obtain.

A popular programme can take between five and seven hours to download, while a film can take twice as long and a more obscure programme up to a whole day.

But for broadband internet users, this is no deterrent: it costs nothing more to stay online for 10 hours than five minutes, so many Bit Torrent users leave their computers on overnight or all day.

So what does The Pirate Bay actually do?

It is basically a search engine for Bit Torrent files, commonly known as torrents. These are small files which allow users or "peers" to download the pirated material directly from other users or "seeders".

There are plenty of other such sites on the internet, but not all of them are as popular as The Pirate Bay, which has an estimated 22 million users.

Its sheer success has made it a particular thorn in the side of the music, TV and film industries, which have seen this case as an important step in stamping out the illegal sharing of copyrighted media.

But if there are other ways of finding these files, what difference does this case make?

Well, the four guilty men are basically saying that it makes no difference to them and that their site will continue to operate.

One of them, Peter Sunde, has already said in a Twitter posting that the case is "just theatre for the media" and that nothing will happen to The Pirate Bay.

But even if the site is closed down, there are plenty of others to take its place. Since they are not based in Sweden, this case does not set a legal precedent for clamping down on them, as the battle will have to be waged in other countries' courts.

So this case may make it harder to find pirated movies and music on the internet, but it will be far from impossible.

However, John Kennedy, chairman of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) - the global music industry body - says the case "will send out a message, even to kids, that what they thought was OK, isn't".

He says the verdict will also give a boost to legal internet music services such as Spotify, which also provide free access to music, but within the law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8004060.stm

pornguy 04-17-2009 05:08 AM

Should have slapped when with 50 years each.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 04-17-2009 05:10 AM

I have a question? how do the owners of that site make money? (people say they are making millions)

if they give away stuff for free, where does the money come from? oh, and i doubt the ads on the site make much - the because users are all freloaders.

so? :helpme

evildick 04-17-2009 05:14 AM

Was just checking the site to see if it is still up, and seen messages like this being posted in the comment section:

latest piratebay news: members of piratebay have been convicted of one year in prison and 3 millions dollars in fine .
i call upon all hackers to fight back and attack all hollywood studios to defend our freedom .

crockett 04-17-2009 05:24 AM

So where are the typical GFY tards that talk about how torrents sites aren't illegal..

This is good news, and will be nice to see the rats start running from the light.

mr david 04-17-2009 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 15754204)
How much do each of those guys make per year? And who the hell is the old guy, Carl Lundström?

Carl Lundström is a swedish multi-miljonaire and founder of one of swedens biggest hosting/colocation datacenters (Port80) where pirate bay hosted one of their boxes. But noone really understands why Carl has been brough into this.

There's too much that doesn't sum up in this verdict to take it seriously, unfortunetaly.

kenny 04-17-2009 05:33 AM

How can it be illegal to run the piratebay and still have it running?

I'm not understanding this.


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