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For the record, I don't really have an opinion on the argument at hand. My roommate sophomore year had a pitt that has was one of the nicest and well behaved dogs I have ever been around. I just felt I needed to chime in on Smokeys clueless argument as I was bewildered that he was actually believing in his logic.
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this thread is retarded, im sorry i bothered to post... i guess it goes back to aesops fables...
you cant beat sense into the senseless. |
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Not a 1 day fix I believe. |
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I don't have a Pitbull but have been around them and other big dogs my whole life. I have owned Shepherds, Huskies and Dobermans. Anyone of those dogs were capable at anytime of attacking and killing someone physically. The likelyhood of that happening was greatly reduced by the fact that these dogs were properly cared for, trained and disciplined. Sadly that is not always the case. Rarely does a dog, any dog, attack without some kind of reason. |
It saddens me to see how some people in this industry base their opinions solely on headlines from the media with NO factual backup whatsoever. The same people stand up and bitch when the media comes out and states crap like : “Pornography leads to child molestation", “Pornography fuels rapists and serial murderers” etc…
When it serves them or when they feel right, they are able to come up with some good arguments, but when it doesn’t , they turn into a bunch of ignorant fools… Before you go hating a dog breed (which is the same as hating a human being based on his race) why not actually look up the facts ? btw... http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Art...ty/WrongId.htm |
They by every right have a place in the animal kingdom, just not in the human kingdom. :2 cents:
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1000 pitbulls will and could kill more people then 1000 fucking Chihuahuas. Can you guys really argue this point or are you that fucking dumb? I don't care what kind of special killa training program you put a Chihuahua through, he simply doesn't have the NATURAL strength as a pitbull. |
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Your wasting your time in here. They look tough but they aren't tough, lets do a Pitbull vs. Chiuaua cage fight and see how many seconds the pitbull will last. Not very long for certain. :( |
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so my solution is bettter owners your solution is kill every dog but chihuaha's Quote:
yet mosquito's kill shitloads of people and whales kill none.. your argument = fail :winkwink: |
65 posts and Smokeythebear still doesnt get it. Please be our guest to breed and leave them all alone in a candle lit room. enjoy.
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You are making up highly irrelevant things from thin air.
It's not in the same category or on the same degree even. Otherwise it's okay to make up stuff (relevant) to get a point proven. That's the big secret. :winkwink: I made this list up now: ;) *Child molesters should get one strike and then their nuts should hang in a lab somewhere. *Child molesters shouldnt get born in the first place .......child molesters should not be trained to be child molesters. puh-lease so much for logic.s Quote:
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By the way, why not cage fight a mosquito v.s a whale and see who lasts longer.
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I remember growing up with a huge shepherd and people telling my mother and father how crazy they were for having such a dangerous and aggressive dog around children. I had an aunt that refused to come to our house unless we locked the dog up. We heard the same about our Doberman. I honestly cannot remember hearing anything like the negative press pit bulls receive until about 8 years ago. I am just saying that pitbulls weren't "created" in the last 10 years. If there has been a rise of pitbull aggression in the past 10 -15 years there has to be reason other than the dogs are just bad. Quote:
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pittbulls with them to breed. That's the history, they didn't come from the sky... but the arise in pitbull attacks are simple. Media write about them a lot more, and a few self destructive mental nuts read these news and get them for the wrong reasons. |
If you want to compare imges of dogs and kids. Compare the images of the ones that have been bitten,, I will bet you that at least 7 out of 10 times you can tell which was a pit and which was not.
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Is the same as any news story, what will get more of a response? Pit bull attacks child or Mixed dog attacks child? Is that any different when the media does something like posting a headline that says "suspected rapist addicted to porn" when it was reported the cops found one magazine? |
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If his owner is an idiot or narcoman, dog will probablly atack everyone, even childrens. But in general Pitbulls and Stafords are kids greatest friends. If putbull rise in normal familly, he will take care and protect childrens in that familly even from their parents. They are great dogs if you give them enough attention... In my country last pitbull atack was 10 years ago, and they are still today disreputable. But almose everyday some other breed, mostly dogs that are no breed, homeless dogs, atack somebody, womans or childrens , and never go that drama like pitbull atack someone. When pitbull atack then start, like you say "wich hunnting" on all media, in press,TV,radio Unfortunatelly lot of bad peeple have pitbulls and train them for dogs fighting, and I think that is most problem whit pitbulls, that dogs fight. I think that must be stoped!:mad: P.S. sorry for my bad english, hope you will understand what I wonna say :) |
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if you really think that pitbulls thirst for blood you're a fucking moron. plain and simple. a dog is just a dog, it learns its personality the same way people do, through experience and the people around it. and as for these shelters, i have no idea what weird ass backwards state you live in, but every shelter here loves pitbulls and touts the breed as one of the best and most loyal you can own. the fact of the matter is that you're letting a media perpetuated stereotype control your perception. how many dog attacks do you think don't make the news everyday? pit bull is a hot word, and as the video also mentioned (to reference the 21% statistic) there are a large number of breeds that are mistaken for pit bulls on a daily basis. how much of that 21% is actually APBT or staffordshire bull terriers? and what about the other cross section of those statistics. as i sad, i myself have been on the receiving end of a black lab attack. i bet that happens quite often but doesn't get the buzz that a headline with "pit bull" in it. this is all cyclical. before it was pits rottweilers were the breed to fear. before rotties it was german shepherds. every 10 - 15 years the "hot" dog changes that people should run for cover from. it's nothing more than hype and hysteria, and honestly i am disappointed to see that you would buy in to it. you have always seemed to be a reasonable guy, but i guess you are just as susceptible to being brainwashed as any other joe shmoe out there. as for my qualifications, i have nothing official except being a dog lover all my life. interacting with hundreds of dogs through the course of regular day to day outside activities, and having MANY friends who have owned pit bulls. as well as all the research i put in to the breed before adopting one. i admit, i too was skeptical about adopting a pit with an unknown history from a shelter, but now that i have i am so happy that i did because i honestly could not ask for a better dog. and while i haven't heard of of any cocker spaniels mauling anyone lately i certainly have heard of labs, mutts, min pins, and a host of other breeds that have had their fair share of mauling stories. so if you go by strictly what the news is reporting today to get the sensationalistic headlines views you're basing your opinion on erroneous information. punish the deed and the irresponsible owners. not the breed. |
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Exactly. They're trained to fight for a reason. Because these dogs have it in them to be agressive. Not the other way around you dumb fucking idiots.
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and while i haven't heard of of any cocker spaniels mauling anyone lately i certainly have heard of labs%2 |
The dog in the Little Rascals was a pit bull ...
My husband and I have more fear of a Doberman than a Pit Bull Terrier. Iam sorry Smokey.. I am offended by your ignorance of the Pit Bull terrier. Sincerely Stephanie Hastert |
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i am sorry stephanie that you cant find one thing to support your argument and choose to call me ignorant on the subject without explaining yourself :) |
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Everything goes in circles of course, just look at fashion. Or the mobile phone, as an improved device. Smaller thinner, more functions, and cleaner design? But considered ...and what are, are two very different things. The same goes for dogs, we learn new things and see new things. And we want to improve them in some way, or create new tools and better tools. More powerful tools and more badass tools. Then we get rid of things, and make new discoverys, get new fresh views and so on. We make life easier, safer, etc The fact that I thought Dobermen was the most badass dog only mean that I just like you didn't have much knowledge around Pittbulls. They have been the most badass dog since the 18th century. Even before I were born(doh!) But I know what you are getting at, and indeed they are seen more in movies now days. But that arent don't judgmental right for the horryfying images we have seen in this thread. And by evidence the damage on list after list you don't have to try to convince yourself otherwise. Crackdealers+pitbulls+movies. |
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From their inception, these dogs have been bred for general human companionship, and since the 1900s, they have been bred for conformation showing as well. From the very beginning, pit bulls have been used as farm dogs, family dogs, military mascots, and all-purpose companions. In England, the Staffie Bull is affectionately known as ?The Nanny Dog? or ?The Children?s Nursemaid? because of their placid and nurturing demeanor toward children. In 1903 Dr. Horatio Nelson Jackson hit the road with co-driver Sewall K. Crocker and a pit bull named Bud, who wore goggles, just like his master, to keep the dust from his eyes. Together, the three made the very first road trip across the US. Bud drew almost as much public attention as his fellow travelers. While it is unclear as to why Jackson and Crocker picked up Bud about halfway through their trip, one story suggests that Jackson rescued him from dogfighters. In the early twentieth century, pit bulls were so respected for their loyalty, determination, and bravery that they were chosen to represent America in WWI posters. The first decorated canine war hero was a pit bull named Sergeant Stubby. He was, until his death, a guest of every White House administration. Many highly respected historical figures have owned pit bulls: President Woodrow Wilson, President Theodore Roosevelt, Helen Keller, Fred Astaire, Humphrey Bogart, and Thomas Edison, to name a few. Today, pit bulls are respected and dearly loved by those who know them for what they truly are and not the monsters the media has created. Pit Bulls and People Perhaps the most important characteristic of pit bulls is their amazing love of people. Many people are surprised by the loving personality of these dogs the first time they meet one. Pit bulls are remarkably affectionate and truly enjoy human attention. They are wonderful cuddlers and love nothing more than a belly rub. In fact, most pit bulls think they are lap dogs! As Dunbar (1999) writes, "Today, a properly bred pit bull is so exuberantly happy upon meeting her owner's friends (or even friendly strangers) that new owners sometimes worry that their dog is too sweet and fun-loving to protect their home and family... A multi-talented companion, the well-trained pit bull is suited for a variety of exciting activities. He excels at obedience, agility and weight-pulling competitions, events which showcase intelligence, trainability and strength. In addition, the pit bull's pleasant nature makes him an ideal candidate for therapy work with people." Traits like human aggression, severe shyness, and instability are not typically found in the APBT breed, nor are they acceptable. Dogs with these traits are not good representatives of the breed and should not be placed into adoptive homes. Those who wish to label these breeds as ?dangerous? are often quick to insist that the dogfighting aspect of their history somehow means that they are inclined to ?fight? humans. This is simply wrong. A central fact of pit bulls? history is that their lineage actually makes them less inclined to be aggressive toward humans. For over 160 years, they have been systematically bred away from human aggressiveness. As Malcolm Gladwell (author of The Tipping Point, Blink and Outliers) explains in an article published in The New Yorker in 2006: Pit bulls were not bred to fight humans. On the contrary: a dog that went after spectators, or its handler, or the trainer, or any of the other people involved in making a dogfighting dog a good dogfighter was usually put down. (The rule in the pit-bull world was "Man-eaters die.") So while human aggressive pit bulls were actively culled from bloodlines, traits such as gentleness, temperamental stability, and the desire to be handled by humans were emphasized. These qualities are the foundation of the ?pit bull? breeds. It explains why footage of pit bulls being rescued from horrific circumstances usually features skinny, scarred-up dogs with wagging tails and happy tongues joyfully greeting law enforcement officers. ?A pit bull is dangerous to people,? Gladwell concludes, ?not to the extent that it expresses its essential pit bullness but to the extent that it deviates from it.? |
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case and point statistics lie. so think before you start spouting your non-sense about how pit bulls are blood thirsty killers, because to anyone who knows you just seem like an ignorant jackass. |
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I am not arguing that there are pit bulls from loving homes that sometimes attack. BUT there are also animals from every other breed big and small that do as well. Do you really think an Akita, Rottie, Doberman, Shepherd even a Great Dane could not do as much damage to a person? What I am saying is a majority of ANY breed of dog that attacks usually has been neglected, abused or not trained properly. |
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A poodle is very temperamental and will snap at anything once provoked ... What are you trying to prove ? This propaganda is nothing short of nonsense! |
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PITBULLS attack BABY - very disturbing video (WARNING) |
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Much the way the media mistakenly labels many attacks done by other breeds that are not pit bulls because it is sensational. |
here's my natural born killer
http://oracleporn.com/bono-de-pug.jpg get close and prepare to get your ass handed to you :) |
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Do you believe that the horryfying images in this thread are real and not photoshopped, and all steaming in form of a pittbull attack? Do you believe Irish Wolfhounds are larger in height than pittbulls? Do you believe Irish Wolfhounds to be stronger and more muscular than in general a pittbull? Have you heard in any news about Irish Wolfhounds doing fatal damage to something? Do you believe that this page you just have quoted and copied from are a trusthworthy source? Answer these questions, and take a few deep breaths, and then try to remind yours of this thread and questions for three days. I swear that on monday when you go to sleep you can cope with the feelings a lot better around pittbulls, but they are only dangerous with a badass owner. :thumbsup |
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