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Muslim dad suspected in torture of children - `This is the worst I've ever seen,' police commander says

2002-11-19

by Jamie Swift

Journal Reporter

AUBURN -- As two children matter-of-factly described the various ways their father tortured them over the past year, an experienced child-interview specialist broke down and cried.

Auburn police Cmdr. Bob Karnofski said the interviewer ``had to leave the room. She was breaking down.''

``Short of the murders we've had (caused by child abuse), this is the worst I've ever seen,'' Karnofski said. ``It's just horrific.''

A 26-year-old Muslim father is accused of turning his home in the 1800 block of C Street Southwest into a torture chamber for his 9-year-old son and 8-year-old daughter, both Terminal Park Elementary School students.

Hamas Abdul Aleem is charged with two counts of first-degree assault of a child and is being held in the Regional Justice Center jail on $250,000 bail.

His son and daughter are staying with their mother at a relative's home out of state.

King County prosecutors say Aleem tortured the boy and girl on a regular basis between November 2001 and Oct. 20.

The children's mother left them with their father and his new wife in Tacoma in November last year while she attended a funeral in Jordan. When she returned, a few months later, Aleem and the children had moved.

The mother finally tracked them down in Auburn last month. She picked up her children at Terminal Park Elementary School and went to the police. Auburn police took the kids to the hospital, where various injuries were discovered, including the boy's broken arm.

The children told investigators their father pulled out their toe nails with pliers, placed their feet in a burning fireplace, burned them with an iron, hit them with sticks, belts, a hose and a coaxial cable, poked them with a plunger handle, and used a lighter and pliers on their genitals.

``The kids were saying this matter-of-factly,'' Karnofski said. ``Like this is life. This is normal.''

They went on to describe how their father made them sleep naked on the garage floor and how he would put a barbell on their backs so they couldn't get up. He would douse them with water to make sure they were cold.

They said their father also made them eat dog feces and drink dish-washing liquid so it would be painful to urinate. He also spit down their throats, kicked them with his boots and made them clean the bathroom tub with bleach, which would get into their open wounds and sting, they said.

Asked how often they were tortured, the boy replied: ``Every day.''

Based on the interviews, police also suspect Aleems' new wife abused the children, but she left the state, Karnofski said. She could face a misdemeanor assault charge.

Aleem was arrested at his Auburn home. He had packed a bag, picked up his paycheck and was ready to flee before his arrest, police said. He pleaded innocent on Thursday. His next court appearance is Nov. 27.

Detectives who searched Aleems' C Street duplex said they found evidence to back up the kids' story, including many of the items the children said were used to torture them. And investigators found ``significant amounts'' of blood in the garage. There was a mattress in the garage and the ``Dawn'' dish-washing liquid the boy specifically mentioned, police said.

According to court documents, ``Aleem admitted that he needed help, but minimized his assaults upon the children to only beating them with a belt. He admitted nothing ... without being cornered by contradicting facts.''

Aleem also could face federal charges because he is an illegal immigrant. He once was deported to his native Jordan, but returned. He has an extensive criminal history, which includes drug, assault and sexual assault convictions.

HS-Trixxxia

I hope he gets tortured the same way.

Then they must stick a tube up his anus and put a filthy rat to crawl into him so he could suffer.

That's what all sickos deserve.

Point finale.

UnseenWorld

What's wrong with you guys? No cultural sensitivity? No appreciation for diversity? I'm ashamed of you!

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directfiesta

As usual with your hatrid posts, links doesn't work . You have anything else to share that your racist ideology???

.:Frog:.

Are you trying to make a joke or implying this is normal for Muslims? (which it isn't)
Grow up asshole!

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Nice sig Frog

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salsbury

you sure this isn't just an ad for "Dawn" dishwashing liquid?

dawn - it makes it hurt to pee!

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foe

not suprised

Mr.Fiction

Can you imagine if they said "Christian" or "Catholic" or "Jewish" everytime a Christian/Catholic/Jew committed a crime? Of course, that wouldn't be politically correct, and the right wingers would start crying like babies.

UnseenWorld

Oh, my, aren't we serious! Well, I guess I'd better stow my sense of humor and irony when YOU are on the board. Now, go lose some sleep over it.

BTW, a few years ago a Chinese man beat his wife to death (here in the US) with a hammer for suspicion of infidelity. At his trial, several liberal keepers of the "diversity" flame testified on his behalf that in his culture this was normal and permissible and accused the authorities of insensitivity to such issues.

I guess that guy never heard of "When in Rome..."

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12clicks

you guys are wrong!
Just because he's an illegal muslim immigrant who tortures his kids and has a long criminal history is no reason to dislike him.
Stop it you bastards. Muslims are all about peace.

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HQ

Good point. Who are we to say what is right or wrong?!


Fucking bull shit. I KNOW our society is at least more right. We are simply more intelligent people and more open minded.

Joe Sixpack

Bwahahaahahahaahahahaahahahaha!

Brown Bear

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Simon-interaid

You make me laugh.

"Muslim dad"

Your trying to imply that all the muslims beat their children?


So all those "christians" that freakin rape Sheeps and goats in kentucky and etc...


Would it make sence to put this as the title?

"Christian men rape sheeps"

is that senceable?


Grow up

Simon-interaid

It really shocks me how ignorant some people can get.

Seriously does.

I am not muslim, but really some people need to grow up.

You have terrorism in Ireland , Russia (Russian mafia for fucks sakes) and everywhere else in the world.


The media really has it for muslims lately because of 911 which took place because of a group of coward muslims.

pr0

go figure

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Jakk

Since when is it wrong to refer to someone as a Muslim, regardless of what they've done? If the guys a Muslim, then that is the truth and a fact, no?

Chichio

Exactly, but it seems that some people cannot look at it this way. I would hate to be blamed for everything the Catholics did.

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jfkpt

It's not wrong, but then would you start a thread saying:

" BLACK DAD SUSPECT OF MURDERING HIS SON?"

I guess not.. why? he's black, he's a dad... but don't know about you but to me it sounds racist... and so does this thread.

Simon-interaid

The hell with being politically correct.
It should be a normal human decency.


1/4 of the world is muslims.
Many of them do good, in other countries and in the US.


I just dont think its fair for us to ignore the good things they do and hammer their religion and diginity based on what a group of hipicrit dumbasses do half way around the world.

Thats all Im saying.

12clicks

Exactly!!!!!!!!
when 90% of the violent crime in america is committed by 10% of the population that happends to be black and when 90% of ALL worldwide terrorism is committed by muslims, its our duty as stupid white liberals to hide these facts!

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jfkpt

You just don't get it do you...

They don't commit crimes because they're black, they do it because they are POOR!

Come on man, grow up.

As to muslims being terrorists, it's a very complex issue that envolves religion, land possession etc etc.
Or do you think that if you put a white turbant on your head and worship ALA you will be instantly a terrorist?

Please, you need to get over the cold-war sindrom... there's good people outside your frontiers...honest... we're just like you.

Chichio

Is this statment true using your super logic?:

The Catholics committed the inquisition so Catholics are murderers.

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12clicks

No, this is just what I'm saying. you and I agree. there *are* no poor white people, we all know that. these black people committing 90% of america's violent crime aren't really black! they're poor!

Again, we agree. their religion tells them to kill people. Here in the US we have freedom of religion so its ok to kill people. (duh)
of course not! someone has to give you explosives and guns first.

I know! that's what I'm trying to say.

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kmanrox

dare i say they should resurrect hitler and program him to take care of the muslims?

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jfkpt

I'm really worried... you ARE really saying that just because they're black they do crimes. For a while there i hopped you were kidding but i was wrong...

Hmm...no their religion doesn't tell them to kill people.
Their religion tells them that Jerusalem is their holly city.
Unfortunally Jerusalem is the holy city for Jews also so there ya go... fucked up mess...
Israel doesn't back up, the muslims don't either.

once again you're saying that just by wearing a turbant and being a muslim a person becomes a terrorist...if you give them weapons and guns...

Apart from being a statement from somebody who is a complete idiot actually makes me laugh cause you see...you are the ones that armed them before.


Haven't i seen you before wearing a white sheet and setting a cross on fire?

Chichio

jfkpt, He's not going to understand it. Your attempts are admirable though.

kmanrox, What a thread killer you are. I had to reread you post a couple times to get my mind around it. I can't believe people like you have the intelligence to boot up windows.

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12clicks

No, I'm saying that even though the crime statistics back this up, as good liberal Americans, we must ignore the facts because we all know that the facts in this case are not true.

quote:

open the koran dummy.
have you seen a muslim with a turban and weapons who wasn't trying to kill someone?

again, we agree! once we arm them they *MUST* go out and kill people. it only make sense. Isn't this what you would do if you had a gun? sure it is.

no, that must have been someone else you saw when you were at the meeting.

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Brown Bear

I dislike muslims for their beliefs. I don't agree with them, so I don't like them.

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jfkpt

Bullshit talk... you don't have to ignore the facts, actually what you should do is analyse those facts and find out why they are that way... it's SO easy reading some figures and jump to a conclusion without really wanting to know what's behind those numbers.

"If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."
-- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5

Yeap, that's right, your very own GOD says in the bible to kill people worshing other religions...

Hang on, why aren't you out there killing people like the bible says??

should i reply to this one? nahhhh....

stupid sentence..yada yada..

nah, the only country where KKK exists is the USA... i live in Portugal, we only have some hooligans and a couple of skinheads...

Do you got anything else to say?
I can't help noticing that every post you make gives you a worst reputation...

jfkpt

I don't like some stupid asshole muslims as i don't like some even more stupid cock sucking christians...

What i don't do is put everybody in the same bag.

Simon-interaid

Extreme right wing has never done the world any good.

Stalin, hitler , mussolini all had extreme right wing principals.



Yet you've never seen a Liberal leader do any damage to the world.



now isn't that a interesting fact?


So I really dont see why some people would try to bash in liberal beliefs over extreme right wing principals.

12clicks

That's what I'm saying! just because the statistics show that black people commit most of the crime in the US DOES NOT mean that its true!
You know the government lies about these things just to make black people look bad!

I didn't think you had any knowledge of islam.

my god? no you know my religion? you're getting smarter by the minute.
I just flipped a coin. tell me how it landed.

because onlt a stupid muslim would do something like that. (as we see every day)

no, because the truth would be other than what you would say.

translation: when backed into a corner with the truth, I call things stupid.

so then why would you fly to America to look for me at one of your clan meetings? you're a wierd dude.

It hurts so badly to ruin my reputation amongst the dopey portugese.

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allah u akbar! there is no other above Allah!! Kill Jakub!

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12clicks

the illiterate's interpretation of history.

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traffictrader

yay for ignorant racism and latent bigotry. God bless America.

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12clicks

I'm glad someone else sees it!

We'll never be truly free of racism and bigotry until we throw away the facts.

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jfkpt

tsc tsc... poor soul... you have NO arguments whatsoever do you?

I never said that black people didn't commit most of the crimes... i said that they didn't do it because they were black, just poor... unlike yourself who implied that ALL black people were criminals as well as ALL muslims being terrorists...

Hmm...no... i was quoting from the Bible...

I'm not a genious... but i can tell i'm certainly less stupid than you.

You coin landed on the side that says "RACIST"

What about the Israeli's killing Muslims?
Oh, of course, it's a "national security" matter, not a religious one...

i didn't reply cause it was of such a stupidity that everybody saw there was no reply needed.

see comment above...

and you lost all your arguments about 2 or 3 posts ago but still manage to come up with something even more stupid to say..

I must say i'm amazed...

It's sad, but you lost your reputation among all of us....

I personally don't give a damn if you think black or white, but you can't stop me of trying to bring you and those like you to reason...


I have to go out... will continue this argument latter if you wish.