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Old 11-19-2002, 06:17 PM   #1
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People Who Don't Pay Revealed!

ok enough is enough.... the following are people who do not pay up!

Name: Daniel
Sites: ultra-hardcore.com ( I design - he paid for)
: hosting4xxx.com (designed logo - didn't pay)
: ultrapautouts.com (designed template - he paid)
: xxxtgp.us (desing logo - did not pay)
I also did premium gallery templtes for him for realyoung.net ultra-hardcore.com and mysexfiles.com - ALL NOT PAID FOR

Email: [email protected]
ICQ: 5092100
I understand I was foolish in doing so many things unpaid for.. how ever learnt my lesson. Just letting yoy know one cheater.

As I check all these sites they do not seem to be there anymore.

2nd PERSON
Name: ANOTHONY
Email: [email protected]
Sites: Showtimebabes.com ( I did the tour - he did not pay for it and stole it from my server

3rd PERSON
Name: Mark
Email: [email protected]
Sites: totalvirgins.com (I designed the members section - however he did not pay BUT does not use the design I did for him. Still thi sis unpaid work)

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He goes by two names that I know of but may go by others now.

Pensfan and Nitro
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Sites: http://www.lipsticklovin.com/ (I am not sure if he owns it but I did the design for him - he had a design company)
http://www.upskirtsin.com/ (same as above)

He kept promising the money... obviously it never came. He is a designer so be aware of him!
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:26 PM   #2
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He kept promising the money... obviously it never came. He is a designer so be aware of him!
You know what you should do right? Make up a nickname, order a design with him and don't pay for it
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:28 PM   #3
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:33 PM   #4
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:33 PM   #5
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You know what you should do right? Make up a nickname, order a design with him and don't pay for it
LOL.. tried contact all of them with different people or other names... sayig I had somebanners for them or whatever... nothing worked.. these people NEVER got backto me.
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:34 PM   #6
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ok enough is enough.... the following are people who do not pay up!

Name: Daniel
Sites: ultra-hardcore.com ( I design - he paid for)
: hosting4xxx.com (designed logo - didn't pay)
: ultrapautouts.com (designed template - he paid)
: xxxtgp.us (desing logo - did not pay)
I also did premium gallery templtes for him for realyoung.net ultra-hardcore.com and mysexfiles.com - ALL NOT PAID FOR

Email: [email protected]
ICQ: 5092100
I understand I was foolish in doing so many things unpaid for.. how ever learnt my lesson. Just letting yoy know one cheater.

As I check all these sites they do not seem to be there anymore.

Daniel is a big fat piece of SHIT and has ripped many people off. If your out there FAT boy....You really are a Punk.
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:35 PM   #7
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LOL.. tried contact all of them with different people or other names... sayig I had somebanners for them or whatever... nothing worked.. these people NEVER got backto me.
try changing your name in your email program..
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:35 PM   #8
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:36 PM   #9
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try changing your name in your email program..
I even got FRIENDS to email them so it wa completely separate to me. ...... still didn't work.
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:37 PM   #10
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Good post, TA.
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:38 PM   #11
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I even got FRIENDS to email them so it wa completely separate to me. ...... still didn't work.
maybe you got fucked by only one person as well..
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:53 PM   #12
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ok enough is enough.... the following are people who do not pay up!

Name: Daniel
Sites: ultra-hardcore.com ( I design - he paid for)
: hosting4xxx.com (designed logo - didn't pay)
: ultrapautouts.com (designed template - he paid)
: xxxtgp.us (desing logo - did not pay)
I also did premium gallery templtes for him for realyoung.net ultra-hardcore.com and mysexfiles.com - ALL NOT PAID FOR

Email: [email protected]
ICQ: 5092100
I understand I was foolish in doing so many things unpaid for.. how ever learnt my lesson. Just letting yoy know one cheater.

I thought he was a crack smoking coal miner now or some shit?
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:55 PM   #13
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I thought he was a crack smoking coal miner now or some shit?
Yes but he came back one more time. I didn't do any business with him on this go round but he is still the same piece of shit.

Hell you can Ask Tanker about him and even John at Adult.com
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Old 11-19-2002, 06:56 PM   #15
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I have been told that pensfan / Nitro may hang out here occasionally... anyone know where he is?
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I have been told that pensfan / Nitro may hang out here occasionally... anyone know where he is?

wasn't pensfan a part of the adult.com team ? Correct me if I am wrong and ignorant.
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Daniel is a big fat piece of SHIT and has ripped many people off. If your out there FAT boy....You really are a Punk.

This dude must really be a punk. I've never heard Ram say anything bad about anyone.

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Everyone knows I have zero love for cheating pieces of shit like this. Nice to know who they are, and it's nice to see good people like Teen Angel taking the time to "out" them for us so it doesn't happen to anyone here.
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Yes, I believe he was. Haven't heard anything about him in a while though, but yeah, he was hired by Lens, I think last year. I was surprised to see his name come up on a cheaters list, it would be interesting to hear his side of it.
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Everyone knows I have zero love for cheating pieces of shit like this. Nice to know who they are, and it's nice to see good people like Teen Angel taking the time to "out" them for us so it doesn't happen to anyone here.
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He goes by two names that I know of but may go by others now.

Pensfan and Nitro
Pensfan icq: 58196866
Nitro: 153554560
Sites: http://www.lipsticklovin.com/ (I am not sure if he owns it but I did the design for him - he had a design company)
http://www.upskirtsin.com/ (same as above)

He kept promising the money... obviously it never came. He is a designer so be aware of him!
Yeah man that guy must be a real dead bea... HEY WAIT A MINUTE THAT'S ME!!! Though I go by The Naked One Now, pensfan is still near and dear to my heart, and as of last week I am no longer affiliated with adult.com.

As far as Angel and her designs, yup, I didn't pay her, I got in over my head with designs taking forever to be paid for by clients as well as personally redesigning designs I commissioned out, and just snapped I guess and disappeared from icq for awhile... I have a few others who I have been making sporadic payments to as best I can, so cheater is kind of harsh, more like late payer or takes forever to pay.

I honestly forgot about you angel until I saw this message, and I'm not some coward that hides and tries to screw people over, so I came her to say that I'm sorry, and I will make arrangements with you to get the work you did paid for...

Again, sorry for all this angel you really are a sweet girl and unlike the other people on your list, I intend to make this right...

Thanks for getting my attention on this...
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When you finish a logo or design for someone, couldn't you save those graphics then put a semi-transparent label over the graphic.

That way they can see the work but couldn't just steal it. Once they pay you send them the unmarked graphics.

Or require payment upfront.
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Again, sorry for all this angel you really are a sweet girl and unlike the other people on your list, I intend to make this right...

Thanks for getting my attention on this...
And now you all know why I was so surprised to see pensfan on the list.
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WOW! you were the last person I was expecting to come forth!

Pensfan/Nitro/Bucknaked and I are working things out now.

thanks guys.
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WOW! you were the last person I was expecting to come forth!

Pensfan/Nitro/Bucknaked and I are working things out now.

thanks guys.
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now are the others gong to come and say sorry as well?
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I could be interested in having you do some gallery design for me.

I went to your site, and the link to your gallery portfolio returns a page not found error:

http://www.rlmwebcreations.com/xxx/galleries.html

Thanks

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now are the others gong to come and say sorry as well?
I would have to say forget about that fat peice of Shit Dan he is worthless.....any money that fucker gets goes into his Fat Lazy lame ASS.
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It's a hardline to walk do things for next to nothing in a market that's completely over saturated with designers just to make a name for yourself, then have some fuckwit screw you over. It's complete bullshit. It's the independant designers that usually get taken advantage of and that hurt the most from it.
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I could be interested in having you do some gallery design for me.

I went to your site, and the link to your gallery portfolio returns a page not found error:

http://www.rlmwebcreations.com/xxx/galleries.html

Thanks

I know I have been trying to getting to update my site - been too busy doing other peoples site! LOL anyway.. have a tonne of examples of galleries.. have probably done close to 500 now if not more.....

Can you icq me please?
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That way they can see the work but couldn't just steal it. Once they pay you send them the unmarked graphics.

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Yes I have started to do that along with 50% before and 50% after as well..
I didn't have a credit card facility before.. however now I do soit makes it SOOOOO MUCH EASIER to receive payments.
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Yeah man that guy must be a real dead bea... HEY WAIT A MINUTE THAT'S ME!!! Though I go by The Naked One Now, pensfan is still near and dear to my heart, and as of last week I am no longer affiliated with adult.com.

As far as Angel and her designs, yup, I didn't pay her, I got in over my head with designs taking forever to be paid for by clients as well as personally redesigning designs I commissioned out, and just snapped I guess and disappeared from icq for awhile... I have a few others who I have been making sporadic payments to as best I can, so cheater is kind of harsh, more like late payer or takes forever to pay.

I honestly forgot about you angel until I saw this message, and I'm not some coward that hides and tries to screw people over, so I came her to say that I'm sorry, and I will make arrangements with you to get the work you did paid for...

Again, sorry for all this angel you really are a sweet girl and unlike the other people on your list, I intend to make this right...

Thanks for getting my attention on this...
Good to see you not hide behind the anonymity of another nic, apologise and make amends. Kick ass!
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thanks for the heads up! I am happy to see it is starting to be sorted. Keep up the good work!

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Old 11-20-2002, 03:11 PM   #41
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Thanks!
Collecting isn't an issue anymore that i get money in advance with the credit card facility... SO MUCH BETTER!

I don't think it will be a problem!

UNLESS anyone knows of a company that needs a fulltime designer???????
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Old 11-20-2002, 06:41 PM   #42
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Thanks!
Collecting isn't an issue anymore that i get money in advance with the credit card facility... SO MUCH BETTER!

I don't think it will be a problem!

UNLESS anyone knows of a company that needs a fulltime designer???????
Tell me you live in Cali.
Even more specific, tell me you live in L.A. even better, tell me you live in the Valley.
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Old 11-20-2002, 08:22 PM   #43
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Tell me you live in Cali.
Even more specific, tell me you live in L.A. even better, tell me you live in the Valley.
RedShoe,

In case you're looking for a local designer - I'm in the valley - adult.roomn8.com - hit me up if you're interested

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Old 11-21-2002, 02:47 PM   #44
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Tell me you live in Cali.
Even more specific, tell me you live in L.A. even better, tell me you live in the Valley.
Sorry RedShoe,
I am an aussie girl..
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Old 11-21-2002, 04:17 PM   #45
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Damn Firehorse...you get around on the boards...you Boardwhore..lol

Yeah..I could throw a few deadbeat names out there as well.
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Old 11-21-2002, 04:24 PM   #46
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Well... what are you waiting for? I had the guts to do it... FINALLY... now its your turn.
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