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onwebcam 06-03-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 15921859)
What the hell am I talking abou...Oh.. Yeah.. That..
Sounds like positive thinking to me.. What are you coming out on top of again? The zombie hordes after your cache of bread?
You cetainly have opened my eyes, but more in a "I just saw a guy put a gherkin into a cat's asshole" kinda way.




This is your beliefs.. You have some serious cognitive dissonance going on you silly sausage. Ok rampant inflation.. so whats a hedge against inflation.. ooooohhh no wah wah.. some big players manipulate the market you can't possibly make a profit... That is probably one of the more ridiculous things i've ever heard. Everything is going to cost more except the things there are tangible limits on.. lol... You can't have it both ways. Well with cognitive dissonance you can..
OF COURSE the big players have the muscle to have a substantitive difference to the price of a commodity. I'm not going to waste any time going on about how that doesn't make a long term difference because of physical realities or that short term manipulation doesn't matter because you can trade in and out of it because it's not going to stop you from thinking that there are half a dozen people sitting on a chart of exactly what the price of gold is going to be for the next 10 years but even if that were the case oh master of all secret conspiracy knowledge... wouldn't that mean you'd know what they were up to and could place your bets alongside them while they're trying to bankrupt the saudi's.. destroy the US middle class.. or whatever else their nefarious scheme is and were in the perfect place to make zillions of dollars while the "sheep" like me who managed to stay out of prison and off the streets kept their blinders on?

That's what I mean by not investing in your worldview. You're quick to point out what "THEY" are doing, why "THEY" are doing it, and how you've come to open everyone's eyes but I don't see you doing anything about it except not putting your money where your mouth is and saying nothing matters because all our money will be gone. If I thought people were fucking with my business and a dozen shady overlords were conspiring to make me poor and that I knew what they were trying to do and how because I read it on infowars I would stick it to them by making sure I wasn't a casuality and investing.

Personally I wouldn't invest in gold. I'm not a doomer gold bug, I'm just trying to put my arguments in perpective. Even though you believe oil prices are all a conspiracy and I assume there are zillions of barrels in Gull Island (even though there is no possible way for this to make a substantial difference to US consumption) or whatever.. At least the advice I gave in that thread 6 months ago would actually be providing tangible benefits for anyone that followed it.. whereas as you just said it didn't matter what we did we were all going to end up with no money.

If anything.. all these conspiracy theories could be a conspiracy to stop people like you from feeling like they could help themselves because all the markets are manipulated.. It's almost funny because it seems like Alex Jones and Lindsay Williams are maniuplating you out of money. I'm further ahead right now than I was before the crash because I do my own research into the scientific, mathematical and geopolitical realities.. not what a goon who builds reactionary tall tales from less extraordinary but non-mainstream truths or an ex-chaplain tells me. My portfolio tells me it's my eyes that are open. That there is a grain of truth in most things you'll find on conspiracy sites but that people take the ball and run, way, way way too far with it. The fact that there was money raining from the sky and you didn't want to pick it up makes me think there is something wrong with yours. Not because money is all important.. but because it's an objective measuring stick of predictions.
Anyways I think I've got a better handle on it now. It seems you're more angry because you don't feel in control and like people are screwing with your business and your "freedom" and you accept pretty much any theory that fits into that paradigm.


I'll only address a few of your points because I'm working on my underground bunker right now. lol Gold and Silver on the Comex is traded on a fractional reserve basis. As in they are selling and/or leasing out 10x what they have on hand. What they "did" have on hand they have been selling. This month Comex has to deliver of physical orders and the word is they won't be able to deliver. Physical gold has been selling higher than paper for quite some time.

I did plan my friend I dumped 2/3's of my operating costs over the past six months and sales are up. I'm back in the green from here on out. Back to buying as others are dumping. :)

The things i have stated I have done extensive research on. If Alex Jones or whoever says it I go and research it myself. He does his research I double check what he says. I do that with anyone. I don't believe everything everyone tells me and I don;t expect everyone to believe what I tell them. I do expect them to research it themselves. But I do realize that is asking a lot of most people.

When they people are manipulating the markets are also profiting from said market and it's a fact that they are all crooks then what result do you expect out of that scenario? When their scheme has been uncovered what do you expect them to do? Do anything they can to cover up their thievery. When those same people own all of the TV networks, radio stations, and newspapers they spew nothing but more lies to keep they people looking the other way. When someone like myself who has been paying attention comes along and tells someone who does nothing but listen to these people and their minions then that person's first reaction is to attack the messenger.

There are many people who are involved in these schemes and who have been for many many years. Once in their life is spent covering up the tracks of them and their predecessors. These very same people have in the last 6 months or so nearly doubled the national debt to bail their asses out and want to try and tell me that me, my kids, and my grandkids owe this debt? I don;t fucking think so. Let one of them little bitch come and try and get it out of me. Those pussy motherfuckers are scared to death of more people figuring out their scams and they are making plans to save their own ass. Are you?

Enough of me rambling on.

onwebcam 06-04-2009 12:24 AM

Bernanke Urges Congress to Start Work Now on Curbing Budget Deficits

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's comments Wednesday before the House Budget Committee come as concerns grow at home and overseas about the United States' mounting red ink.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...est=latestnews

Time for everyone to pay up the money these crooks took. Break out you visa or mastercard. What happened to Obama cutting taxes?

Come get that shit yourself Bernanke. I dare you.

StickyGreen 06-04-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 15922158)
Bhutocracy ...is the voice of reason in this thread and many of the others are like onwebcam...simply fruitcakes.

Even though I have lost money...on paper with the fall of the market...the principle (which was considerable after I sold off all of my realestate holdings) that I originally invested was never touched and in fact is a much larger amount than I originally invested. I have zero concern about my own well being and I fully expect the nation to survive as well. We have had major financial ups and downs throughout our history so there is not anything really new about the current economy.

It's a shame how the know-it-all "normal people" always resort to name-calling. Hasn't everyone else noticed that by now? Why is it that the "status-quo" regular people are always the rude ones? How many stupid ass labels can you people come up with? Kook, nutjob, weirdo, crazy, loon, etc. No matter how many labels you come up with it will never change the truth. Most of you people can't even have a discussion without belittling others. Whatever helps boost your ego, I guess...

I haven't seen "onwebcam" do anything but present sound information in this thread, but yet in your mind he is a "fruitcake." lol, fruitcake? Whatever that means anyways. How sad...

onwebcam 06-04-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 15922158)
Bhutocracy ...is the voice of reason in this thread and many of the others are like onwebcam...simply fruitcakes.

Even though I have lost money...on paper with the fall of the market...the principle (which was considerable after I sold off all of my realestate holdings) that I originally invested was never touched and in fact is a much larger amount than I originally invested. I have zero concern about my own well being and I fully expect the nation to survive as well. We have had major financial ups and downs throughout our history so there is not anything really new about the current economy.

Where do you think that money went? Did it just disappear? You do realize that there are a few billion other people that lost money as well right? Did all of their money just disappear as well? And to top it all off they say that they need more taxes?

Agent 488 06-04-2009 01:23 AM

the more attention you give alex jones the more property and investments he aquires, suckers.

onwebcam 06-04-2009 01:26 AM

This is the World that we are talking about. Last I checked the US wasn't the only place having financial problems. I did mention whats going on across the pond didn't I? Strange that these very governments that people like Jones has been warning about for years are falling apart right before our very eyes. Where in the World did all that money go?

onwebcam 06-04-2009 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15922699)
the more attention you give alex jones the more property and investments he aquires, suckers.


You do realize that comment you made was in a post of a FREE high definition and pretty well done documentary. He released this before the people who pre-ordered DVDs got theirs. These people aren't getting rich of this shit. They are trying to tell you something... Not sell you something.

StickyGreen 06-04-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15922699)
the more attention you give alex jones the more property and investments he aquires, suckers.

Suckers? lol, I have seen most of Alex Jones' films and I have never given him a cent of my money. I also read articles on his websites from time to time and have also never paid a cent for those.

And are you saying that someone who is working night and day to help educate the public about important issues cannot also make a profit from it? What kind of logic is that?

I get the feeling that you are implying that if someone profits at all from information they are presenting that automatically makes the information false? lol, that is just brilliant thinking right there.

Oh and it's "acquires," not "aquires." But you probably already knew that.

maxjohan 06-04-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 15922114)
This is top secret.
Give me 12h
:warning

I regret this statment. I will probably get murdered in one week flat from the secret services, and who the heck cares anyways, not anyone here on GFY!

Had been dumb of me to reveal a scheme I could profit from, not??

And no, it has nothing to do with WallStreet.

TyroneGoldberg 06-08-2009 01:10 PM

what's funny is all the 'obama haters' who support bush/mccain, or say 'we' would have been better off with mccain. most of it has to do with deep seated issues within yourself. they're all the same. there's an agenda they must all follow.


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