Popular Mechanics is owned by Hearst Corp which is owned by William Randolph Hearst whom is a member of.. drum roll please.. the Counsel on Foreign Relations.

I'm not sure what you mean by "these theories of yours." I've never said that the money powers have changed over the years, because they haven't. The same families have been controlling most of the world's wealth since the Rothschilds created the Bank of England.

So in a nutshell, the world is ruled by some secret shadow government, and no matter who is elected president, we are all fucked. So let's blame Obama. Yeah, that makes lots of fucking sense. The Bilderberg group begins in the late 1950's - clearly Obama must have been there in spirit - it only makes good sense. The Bilderberg group controls everything, so I guess every once in a while they "allow" a president to do well, and make us wealthy, but at other times they "force" a president to be bad for everyone, just to keep it real.

Oh yeah, the whole thing makes all sorts of sense to me. And I'm glad the "documentary" offers another choice too - like things would have been fine under McCain and Palin, because they wouldn't have to answer to the scary secret shadow government?

This is nothing more than additional Republican smear propaganda against Obama, with no BETTER solution offered. Just hatred and propaganda.

The truth of the matter is just slightly harder to believe. Turns out alien beings from the Neptune Galaxy have been methodically taking over the minds of every single world leader - one by one. When the time is right the real shit will start hitting the fan. Oh yeah, the time is coming. Just ask Quiston7 from planet Dumbshit5 - he knows all....

It's not about Obama himself, the whole "Obama" thing is a deception. Anyone who is personally blaming Obama doesn't get it.

This has nothing to do with the 2-party paradigm. The creator of this film also has documentaries about how George Bush was a puppet for the elite just like Obama is, it has nothing to do with Republicans being upset that a Democrat is in office.

You are wrong when you say "no matter who is elected president we are all fucked." There were multiple candidates in this last presidential election who were not members of any of the elite groups, and had they won, there probably would have been a chance for some real change.

oh yeah I juss love how obama is sucking me dry with high taxes because of my income and giving it too all the lazy americans who dont want to work for their money

When twisted people play with logic you get twisted logic. None of the new negative responses here are even worth replying to. :disgust

bump bump

saw it, VERY interesting documentary


i think people need to be open minded and research the FACTS before forming an opinion, or before they dismiss anything as a crazy "conspiracy theory"

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i saw this, and they did a very good job.. they kept to the points and facts they were trying to make, some of the imagery was propagandy but all in all very informative

Research and making strong arguments are left for other minds to do and the masses to repeat. Put down the kool-aid on both sides and start with reading your constitution.

I watched it, I have to say it was interesting.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh The best video in this thread...

Nah in another thread he said he's lived the life of a hobo at times.. and that he wasn't going to invest in anything that fit into his beliefs - buying gold etc which would point to having no money to invest, I doubt he's living off investments or anything else he says.. He's just an average schmoe feeling screwed and can't do anything about it except crying on a forum (if he's not a fake nick).. the GFC has really flushed these guys out.
Anyways spoilt rich kids don't give a shit, this whole thing is an investment opportunity. The only people crying are the clueless. It's like seeing a massive wad of money falling from the sky and not knowing how to catch it.

too much conspiracy going on lately...

I didn't say hobo. If memory serves correctly I said something along the lines of the streets. But I could be wrong I'm not bothered to look back. You can quote me if you like. You seem so interested in following my old post so you must be interested in who I am. It's not a fake nick. The only one I've used here since day one. If I'm not doing business with you I don't need to know who you are and don't need you to know who I am. I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. Who's sporting a link pimping himself/herself or someone else? I must be doing something right not to have to whore myself out.

Disability pension? You didn't have the balls to make investments that matched your worldview which is extreme enough that most people with it do. That points to no money or an indolence bordering on pathological. I don't care about the lack of money thing, just you talked about living the life of hobos and prison thugs previously and now you're talking like you're the landed gentry.

I've never taken one dime from the government my entire life. Not even unemployment.

You talked about not investing and now you're living off investments.. Just trying to keep track of all the lies maaaan and see the truth behind the conspiracies...

Streets and stints in jail are different from hobo and prison. Worldview? What exactly do you think my world view is? The world I would like to see is people minding their own fucking business and going about their happy fucking lives. The world we are entering is one of a handful of people trying to tell everybody else how to live.

You're reading what you want to read. I live off of MY own investing. I don't invest in other companies or let other people do that for me. I make my money off of my own skills and that is in a form of investing. If you need some fucking help there domains is the keyword.

VERY simplified financial worldview = elites controlling everything destroying the value of the dollar, ushering in rampant inflation.

Any person who actually truly believed what they were saying would go out and get a $100k loan and put it all on gold. The inflation will wipe the debt away and the gold will be worth a zillion bucks right?
I only remember you because unlike most anti-fed doomers (amongst whatever else) your actions didn't match your beliefs and you seemed to be absolutely defeatist.. nothing you could do was going to help etc etc. It's not a mentality I can empathise with. Most people will react to make the most of a situation.. which is what is prompting me to reply now you're talking of living off investments and being part of the original landed gentry.
Whatever.

A domainer who isn't prepared to take advantage of financial situations. Now i've heard it all. And as though commodities or dividends are any more variable than affiliate or PPC income.
I don't know why I'm wondering how a conspiracy guy would act illogically in areas as well I guess... But you sir, are most definately an odd potato.

When people will realize president doesn't have anything with actual economic situation no matter who it is.

I suspect 7/11 and Starbucks arent clean too!

yet the everything he wrote was true...

Gold market is manipulated just like the stock market. If you watch either one of them and believe any differently you have to be fucking stupid. Look up "the working group" you fool and figure out who they are. If you need a little help it's the same group of bankers that got all of the bailouts.

U.S. Government Sanctioned Gold Price Manipulation

"The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency just released its Q3/08 Quarterly Derivatives Fact Sheet today. Here is one of the highlights:

Take a look at J.P. Morgan's gold derivatives [futures] position, paying particular attention to how the < 1 yr. position changed from the end of Q2/08 to the end of Q3/08: "

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article8014.html


Actions match my beliefs? What the hell are you talking about? Defeatist? No I will always come out on top. All I have ever done is open the eyes of stupid people like yourself.



I don't live off of affiliate or PPC income. Thanks, have a nice day.

Geez that guy thinks there is a conspiracy behind everything

It's all the same group of people conspiring. Hence the movie this thread is about. They are and have been covering their asses. Look at whats going on in England right now. Their government is falling a part because of this very topic. Gordon Brown is about to be tossed out on his ass and they've lost 4 MP's in 24 hours. Expect the US government to soon follow.

Yup, and barely anyone over here even knows about that yet. The American mainstream media isn't even talking about it.

Here's a recent article talking referring to what I have said in this thread and another one as well. The bankers consider you and I as their property.

GPS Marking of Every House in U.S. Not Authorized by
Supreme Law of the Land
By: David Deschesne,

Editor/Publisher, Fort Fairfield Journal May 6, 2009, page 1

The U.S. Census Bureau has been overstepping the U.S. Constitution?s requirements for a simple enumeration of the citizens for years, but their current plans to mark the GPS location of every address in the U.S. is just the latest in a long list of usurpations of the General Government?s Constitutional authority.

The Bureau of Census is sending its army of workers to every address in the United States within the next couple of months in order to log the Global Positioning System (GPS) location of every American citizen?s home.

Cataloging the physical location of people?s homes is far removed from the Constitutional grant of authority to the government to merely count how many people are living in the several states in order to assign an appropriate number of Representatives to them in the U.S. House of Representatives1 so, there must be another purpose for this action.

The term ?Census? is Latin for to appraise or to assess a value thereon. In Roman history it was a registration or count of citizens and their property to determine taxation."2

The spirit of the word ?Census,? as to appraise or assess a value on the citizens? labor and their property, does not appear anywhere in the U.S. Constitution, only an enumeration (counting) of people every ten years in order to appropriate Representatives.

The Bureau of Census is a relatively new creation, not actually in existence in the beginning of the United States. It was established temporarily in 1899 and as a permanent office within the Department of Interior in 1902, just a few years prior to our nation surrendering its money supply to a private cabal of international banks. In 1903, the Bureau of Census - now functioning as a de facto ?Bureau of Appraisals? was absorbed by the newly created Department of Commerce and Labor, which was later separated into two separate departments. The Bureau of Census (Appraisals) was reorganized in 1950 and remains in the Commerce Department to this day.3

Congress created the Bureau of Census (Appraisals) to begin the laborious task of cataloging, serial numbering and tracking the value of all personal and business property in the United States, as well as the humans therein for the purposes of appraising their value and preparing them for use as collateral against the nation?s debt under a proposed fiat debt money scheme to be implemented later on in 1913.
Ten years after its inception, the Department of Commerce was restructured as a stand-alone entity separating Labor into its own Department (15 USC 1501). The private, for-profit corporation, known as the Federal Reserve System was formed in the same year as the restructuring of the Department of Commerce. Under the new Federal Reserve System's plan, all new money would be brought into existence via loans to the government and citizens. The Bureau of Census (Appraisals), as a division of the Department of Commerce, is charged with keeping track of the number of human chattels whose labor is pledged against the national debt via the Federal income tax. The Bureau of Census (Appraisals) also appraises and keeps track of manufacturers, mineral industries, distributive trades, construction industries, agriculture, religious organizations and transportation. All towns, cities, and municipalities are required to annually submit a report of all new construction, multi-family units, new businesses, and any losses to the Bureau of Census (Appraisals) for the purposes of keeping a current valuation of all property in the United States.4

Just prior to the bankruptcy of the United States in June, 1933, the Bureau of Census (Appraisals) undertook a bold new venture. During the month of April, 1930, over 100,000 persons were engaged in taking the census. At that time the usual questions regarding race, color, sex, age, occupation, whether married or single, and whether able to write were asked. In addition were such questions as the value of your home and whether owned or rented, whether you were the owner of a radio, and detailed questions regarding unemployment.5 This information was needed in order to assess a value on the chattels and collateral the Federal Reserve banks needed before loaning money to the soon to be bankrupt U.S. government.

The Under Secretary for Economic Affairs compiles all Census data and makes it available to those who are in need of it - such as banks seeking to determine how well a state or geographic area of people are able to collateralize a bond issue (loan) with their currently existing labor and property.

The current scheme of using unwitting census workers to mark the GPS location of every address in the United States, under the banner of a Constitutional enumeration of the citizens, has nothing to do with counting people in order to appropriate Representatives to Congress. Instead, it appears to be an unconstitutional ploy to catalog and track all citizens? property which has been pledged to the banks and creditors who hold the notes on the United States? now $11+ trillion national debt.

?We are using the GPS data to help our census takers find your home when they come around next year,? said one census worker. However, when asked since she was able to find the person?s house without a GPS coordinate to begin with, why was a GPS coordinate necessary for another census worker, she was unable to explain.

Some have speculated that the GPS coordinates are for the Federal Government?s future use in silencing protestors, confiscating firearms or foreclosing on homes on behalf of the foreign banks and countries who have loaned the U.S. trillions of dollars in unpayable debt. Whatever this government?s intentions are, history has shown they are not benevolent.

The Fort Fairfield Journal contacted Paul Powell, Partnership Coordinator for the Boston Regional Census Center to ask what Constitutional authority the Bureau of Census had to catalog GPS coordinates, what the information was being used for, what other information was being collected about the address at the time the GPS coordinates were taken, and what steps the Bureau of Census was taking to protect the privacy of those who chose not to allow their home to be cataloged as such. Mr. Powell acknowledged receiving the questions, but refused to comment or provide answers.

While the Bureau of Census (Appraisals) may have enacting legislation to grant its authority by fiat, the U.S. Constitution has granted no power to the Federal government to do anything other than count people, with respect to the Census. Therefore, the Census workers? cataloging the GPS positions of every home address in the U.S. is blatantly unlawful activity initiated on behalf of the private banking industry now running Congress. According to the 10th amendment, any power not granted to the Federal government, or prohibited by the Constitution to the States, is reserved to the States or the people respectively.


Notes
1. see U.S. Const., Article 1, Sec. 1, Clause 3.
2. World Book Dictionary/Thorndike Barnhart; 1969 ed. ©1969 Doubleday & Company Inc., p. 333.
3. U.S. Government Manual 2000-2001, p. 608
4. op. cit., p. 137
5. see MacGruder's American Government,
©1939 Allyn and Bacon, pp. 285-286.

http://www.mainemediaresources.com/ffj_05060901a.htm

What the hell am I talking abou...Oh.. Yeah.. That..
Sounds like positive thinking to me.. What are you coming out on top of again? The zombie hordes after your cache of bread?
You cetainly have opened my eyes, but more in a "I just saw a guy put a gherkin into a cat's asshole" kinda way.


This is your beliefs.. You have some serious cognitive dissonance going on you silly sausage. Ok rampant inflation.. so whats a hedge against inflation.. ooooohhh no wah wah.. some big players manipulate the market you can't possibly make a profit... That is probably one of the more ridiculous things i've ever heard. Everything is going to cost more except the things there are tangible limits on.. lol... You can't have it both ways. Well with cognitive dissonance you can..
OF COURSE the big players have the muscle to have a substantitive difference to the price of a commodity. I'm not going to waste any time going on about how that doesn't make a long term difference because of physical realities or that short term manipulation doesn't matter because you can trade in and out of it because it's not going to stop you from thinking that there are half a dozen people sitting on a chart of exactly what the price of gold is going to be for the next 10 years but even if that were the case oh master of all secret conspiracy knowledge... wouldn't that mean you'd know what they were up to and could place your bets alongside them while they're trying to bankrupt the saudi's.. destroy the US middle class.. or whatever else their nefarious scheme is and were in the perfect place to make zillions of dollars while the "sheep" like me who managed to stay out of prison and off the streets kept their blinders on?

That's what I mean by not investing in your worldview. You're quick to point out what "THEY" are doing, why "THEY" are doing it, and how you've come to open everyone's eyes but I don't see you doing anything about it except not putting your money where your mouth is and saying nothing matters because all our money will be gone. If I thought people were fucking with my business and a dozen shady overlords were conspiring to make me poor and that I knew what they were trying to do and how because I read it on infowars I would stick it to them by making sure I wasn't a casuality and investing.

Personally I wouldn't invest in gold. I'm not a doomer gold bug, I'm just trying to put my arguments in perpective. Even though you believe oil prices are all a conspiracy and I assume there are zillions of barrels in Gull Island (even though there is no possible way for this to make a substantial difference to US consumption) or whatever.. At least the advice I gave in that thread 6 months ago would actually be providing tangible benefits for anyone that followed it.. whereas as you just said it didn't matter what we did we were all going to end up with no money.

If anything.. all these conspiracy theories could be a conspiracy to stop people like you from feeling like they could help themselves because all the markets are manipulated.. It's almost funny because it seems like Alex Jones and Lindsay Williams are maniuplating you out of money. I'm further ahead right now than I was before the crash because I do my own research into the scientific, mathematical and geopolitical realities.. not what a goon who builds reactionary tall tales from less extraordinary but non-mainstream truths or an ex-chaplain tells me. My portfolio tells me it's my eyes that are open. That there is a grain of truth in most things you'll find on conspiracy sites but that people take the ball and run, way, way way too far with it. The fact that there was money raining from the sky and you didn't want to pick it up makes me think there is something wrong with yours. Not because money is all important.. but because it's an objective measuring stick of predictions.
Anyways I think I've got a better handle on it now. It seems you're more angry because you don't feel in control and like people are screwing with your business and your "freedom" and you accept pretty much any theory that fits into that paradigm.

It's too bad Alex Jones rants and carries on so much as it's very easy to just label him as a conspiracy nut. Some will say that's because he is one, but I think he is right on many points.

For those that liked The Obama Deception check out The New American Century too.

I have already known this for long.

Not a big deal.

The blind are in the majority it seems. At least they make far more noise that those who cares about whats going on around them. And take some f-time to research.

You cant ignore them because they scream the loudest "Freak" "CrazY" and "nut" - yes they are.

Who cares, load up your loaf of breeds and prepare in a bunker. i*m getting my first guns.. and .. anyone remember france revolution=????

Its time to fight back nonsens, there are not time for talking with the blind!!

(How do I download this movie so I can put it in to peoples faces 30 years from now when they are living on garbage dumps calling me/us Zombies and freaks.)

This picture isn't quite accurate; she died while giving birth.

Have you ever heard about Josef Stallin ?? No... ok do your research then.

Maybe this Rockefeller, and everone else you mentioned are linked together? No-- they are not bankers. Rockefeller was never rich.- nothing to do with banks.. no??

Jesus. :2 cents:

Very well said. I guess they like to bunddle things together?? No... you can't educate them.. most are to far in to the system.. you have to play with the cards you have, draw some new cards ones you know someone that listens or already in to it.

It's a thin line. Some are in, others not.. other's are over the top and in to the UFO things too.. I guess that's what make it harder for others.

Gl educating the world. You have to change your name to BO :to get there.

I agree with this, I wish they could edit those parts outs with the children that's from africa. I feel people that don't have time for this are too afraid of any negativity in their life. Or get their opinon shattered to some pride points.

Is that black dude from the beginning an MMA expert? I saw him on YouTube analyzing on Machida vs Rashad Evans in UFC 98. Good stuff he was right, Machida knocked Rashad out. :winkwink:

Ok, I feel like posting something I found out from another board tomorrow.. But your arse better make yourself ready for this. This is top secret.

Give me 12h
:warning

Bhutocracy ...is the voice of reason in this thread and many of the others are like onwebcam...simply fruitcakes.

Even though I have lost money...on paper with the fall of the market...the principle (which was considerable after I sold off all of my realestate holdings) that I originally invested was never touched and in fact is a much larger amount than I originally invested. I have zero concern about my own well being and I fully expect the nation to survive as well. We have had major financial ups and downs throughout our history so there is not anything really new about the current economy.