Do you ever shut the fuck up about Italian football and Italian footballers? Fuck them, bunch of diving cunts. Always lucky as fuck to proceed in World Cup/Eurocup first stages.

here you are agian dumb shit.

I don't watch American football, i saw more football games then you can ever imagine.

When you were pissing in bed i was in Barcelona, Wien, Tokio watching AC Milan in those finals.

I saw two world cup finals 1990-2006 and we won in one of them while you were taking out your fat girlfriend to eat fish and chips.

I saw 7 Champions League finals, dumb ass, AC Milan won 4 of them.

You fucking dumb shit.

Italian Catenacccio...wake up man it's 2009....

British football it's based only on e thing: kick the ball to tohe striker and let;s hope something happens.

it's a matter of fact you had to get Capello, an Italian coach, for your national team.

sure sure sure...change record, it's old.

Is your team /nation ever won anything? And i am not talking on the Xbox.

hmmm if the players you mentioned were so good why England failed miserably at every recent international competition?

I give you Gerard, he is amazing, definitely one of the best midfielder in the world.

PL has 4 teams that play good football the rest is pure misery. you go below the 4th team in the ranks and it's a tragedy, it's a challenge for those teams to make 4 passes in a row.

i give you that asshole. Still it doesn't mean that the PL i a better league. take the foreign players out of the PL and your a back in the 90's when the PL was a joke.


Money and foreign players is what makes the PL. that's it.

MOxxx You don't know shit about football.

Fuck off back to your little hole crawl inside it and shut the fuck up.

There is NO team from Italy left in the champions League what so ever.

The premier league is the best in the world.

The clue is in the Title PREMIER league.

Even the Championship matches are more interesting to watch than Serie A.

And the LFP in Spain is also much better to watch and has more class players than italy.

2005 was a joke, Liverpool cheat Chelsea and went to the final against us ( Ac Milan) and they we all saw how they won....


Bud could you remind me about England's performances in the last 3 or 4 world cups?

The national team is the expression of the league.

Take the foreign players out of Serie A and it will also be a shit league.

And for the record I would like to say Arsenal should be kicked out of the premier league for not having any english players in the starting 11 on a regular basis.

Manchester UTD has Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Micheal Carrick, Gary Neville, Owen Hargreaves, Paul Scholes, Ben foster, Danny welbeck, all English,

Plus Brittish players like Fletcher, Giggs, O'shea,

There is not many foreign players. And i've definately missed some of the list.

All Leagues in Europe have foreign players, so what that has nothing to do with it.

MobileIdiot talk technical tell me why, don't repeat like "Simon says" like everybody elses does.

i want to know names, reasons why the EPL is better?


Have you ever seen West Ham winning at Old Trafford? I don't think so

About Middlesbrough winning at Stamford bridge? NOPE

Hull City @ Emirates Stadium? hmm don't think so.

So where da fuck is the fun if always the same 4 teams win, what's the excitement?

well this can happen at any given Sunday in Italy.


Only this season:

Cagliari beat Juventus in Turin
Bologna beat AC Milan in Milan
Atalanta beat inter in Bergamo.

Hull BEAT arsenal at the emirates. Why does serie a have the lowest viewing figures of premier league and la liga? Nobody wants to watch that boring shit you call football.

How many teams have won the serie a over the last few years? If "anybody can win"? And who knows if the winning team even deserved it with all the match fixing and corruption in the league.

And why do you mention Ac Milan? Of course the shit teams will beat them they didnt even qualify for the champions league :1orglaugh How about that thrashing arsenal gave them in the CL last year, they looked like a bunch of old dogs, has beens...

Wow Hull beat Arsenal ..how frequently does it happen, once every 45 years?

In the last 16 years only 4 teams won the EPL : ManU, Blackburn, Arsenal and Chelsea

In the Last 16 years 5 teams won the Serie A : Lazio, Roma , Milan ,Juventus and Inter and if you add 3 more years to that you can add Napoli and Sampdoria.


When you talk about AC Milan you simply loose, it's the most victorious team in football history. This is a fact:

http://www.mo76.com/MO/ACM.jpg

Don't confuse this super teams.

Chelsea vs. Ipswitch(div 1) - 2 - 1

In the end of january.

MOxxx is blind to the skill, pace and excitement of the Premier League. The facts speak for themselves - look at what the English clubs have done in Europe this season. Destroyed them.

It certainly wasn`t the case several years ago but in recent years, the English top flight is proven far and away the strongest league in the world. If you refuse to believe all the people here, just read what the experts in the footballing media report.

"When you talk about AC Milan you simply loose, it's the most victorious team in football history. This is a fact:
"
No i dont, Ac Milan are SHIT now. I dont care about your history, Britain USED to rule the world but that doesnt count for shit any more.

Heres a fact for you, over the past 3 years Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool have all been in a champions league final. How about Italian clubs? Of course you can dig up some HISTORY but we are debating why the EPL is the best league NOW.

Manchester united lost 2 times! to west ham last year.
They also had a massive match against hull which ended 4-3 this year and hull were only promoted this season
Arsenal lost 2-1 against hull on the 27th of september. they have also drawn against stoke this season who also just been promoted to the PL this season.

You don't know fuck all! about football mate.

And i've just proven that point above.

Serie A is slowwww and boring your teams are shit and so is the league in general!

The Premier League is Fast paced and the players in the premier league are world class.

Hence the reason for 2 season in a row there is 4 english teams in the 1/4 finals of the champions league.

Now fuck off, and shut the fuck up before I own your pathetic knowledge of football even more :thumbsup

How sad and humiliating it must be for the England national team to be coached by an Italian, it just shows you cant do shit for your self (tehehe)
Liverpool owned by the Americans, Arsenal by the Arabs and city by the Thais.... Blaaaah!

Notice how hull were only promoted this season aswell and they have had some excellent matches against the BIG 4.

and AC milan are NOT the most dominating in europe, Real Madrid are and they lost 4-0 against liverpool so, again,

YOU FAIL and so does the Serie A

Oh yeah because the USA are a really fucking good national team ain't they? NOT!

Also the russian nation side was coached by a dutch coach,
a portugese manager was the coach of brazil when they won the world cup,

Who cares where the coach is from?

Where has all that British pride gone??
I bet you that Alfred Ramsey is turning over in his coffin!!

Well steve mclaren fucked up, so did venables (but he didn't get given much chance) hoddle was a shit coach.

Sven was also shit. Capello is a good move for england and there were obviously calls for the manager to be english when mclaren became boss and he fucked it up.

If cappello does a good job it doesn't matter. the english players need a manager that can bring the team together.

hmmm one of the final, in 2007 to be precise was won by AC Milan, as well as the club world cup and the uefa supercup in that year. Thank you.

OK 3 episodes in what 2 years, maybe 3 ?

Football is a cycle you baby boy , you probably too young to know about football, Italian teams were in the 1/4 finals for 3 years so what?

You can say whatever you want but the EPL has the most embarrassing defense lines in Football , anyone can score.

Teams play always the same boring 4-4-2 like if we were in the 90's.

Goalkeepers are a joke, take off Chech and Reina occasionally Van der sar ( all foreigners) and everyboy elses is a disaster.

Refs are the worst in Europe (UEFA ranking).

World Class Player? You can mention probably Gerard,Rooney, Drogba,Fabregas who else?

Don't mention Ronaldo because when he plays away from Old Trafford he doesn't catch a ball. Euro 2008 docet.

Now YES it's a fats pace league, it's always been very athletic.

Now when the Money Bubble will pop, EPL well go back to be the same medieval league which is the mirror of the national team.

Funny.

Inter, Italian champs for the past 3 years plays many of its games in Serie A WITHOUT AN ITALIAN STARTING MEMBER. They are all foreign (Brazilians, Portuguese, Argentines etc etc...), heck, even the Coach is Portuguese.

I'd say before you say anything against the Premier League, you should check your own.

True we are not in Europe...we are in the world little boy:

Milan and Boca share 18 officially recognized international titles (most in the world).

AC Milan have 7 UEFA Champions League Titles, 5 UEFA Super Cups, 2 UEFA Cups, 3 Intercontinental Cups and 1 FIFA Club World Cup. So that is 14 Titles in Europe, and 4 Titles Internationally.

Check who has the most appearances in the CL finals in the last 20 years...guess what AC Milan is. 8 times.

We sucked this season due to too many injured key players but next year we will be back once again don't you worry little boy.

:1orglaugh

Serie A Champions

Juventus 27 times
Milan 17 times
Inter 16 times


Everyone else, bunch of unknows under 7 like Roma at 3, Lazio at 2. Are you kidding? :1orglaugh

It's the same 3 freakin' teams in Serie A :helpme

Inter is a case apart, they have always been a joke and the second team of Milan. One team out of 18 doesn't constitute any relevant data.

Again since you all are so fond for the EPL which i presume is a league where Englishmen play as well tell me why the English national team doesn't get anywhere since the Baby final in Italy 1990?

If the EPL is so dominating and rich with world class players including the British... where was England in the 2006 world cup? and 2002? and 1998? about 1994?

next time you google stuff do it right:

Genoa 9 times
Bologna 7 times
Pro vercelli 7 times
Torino 7 times
Fiorentina 2 times

I :helpme you to do a better search.

Funny you say they are the 2nd team of Milan, however, they've been in Serie A longer so that would make Milan, the 2nd team :1orglaugh

My dad was from Bologna, but before I left England for the US I was taking him to Stamford Bridge every other week and he loved it.

Whoever said the EPL is number 1 and La Liga is number 2, is spot on. Serie A has declined in the last few years (remember the scandal in 2006?).

Genoa last time they won, 1924 :1orglaugh
Bologna last time they won, 1964 :1orglaugh
Torino last time they won, 1976 :1orglaugh

So in the history of Serie A, the TOP SIX teams, the bottom 3 that you so graciously posted have NOT WON ANYTHING since 1976, 33 years ago :1orglaugh


The top 20 clubs as of 2007-08 UEFA competitions are as follows:

Rank Club Country 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 Coefficient
1 Chelsea England 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 28.4860 30.8985 124.996
2 Milan Italy 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 27.9360 17.3825 119.934
3 Liverpool England 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 29.4860 26.8985 118.996
4 Barcelona Spain 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 20.2700 29.5785 117.837
5 Arsenal England 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 18.4860 23.8985 110.996
6 Manchester United England 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 27.4860 34.8985 107.996
7 Sevilla Spain 4.7230 16.1040 30.1620 31.2700 20.5785 102.837
8 Lyon France 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 18.3000 14.2860 99.380
9 Internazionale Italy 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 16.9360 17.3825 96.934
10 Real Madrid Spain 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 20.2700 16.5785 93.837
11 Bayern Munich Germany 10.5555 19.4885 17.4440 20.1350 24.4550 92.078
12 PSV Eindhoven Netherlands 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 17.7105 17.6500 91.610
13 Villarreal Spain 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 6.2700 17.5785 90.837
14 Newcastle United England 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 22.4860 5.8985 84.996
15 Valencia Spain 29.7230 14.1040 5.1620 23.2700 11.5785 83.837
16 Roma Italy 12.9285 8.6200 19.0675 20.9360 20.3825 81.934
17 Porto Portugal 26.3825 13.6950 8.8150 15.6675 16.6160 81.176
18 Benfica Portugal 13.3825 13.6950 17.8150 18.6675 13.6160 77.176
19 Werder Bremen Germany 1.5555 16.4885 14.4440 24.1350 17.4550 74.078
20 AZ Netherlands 1.7875 27.9600 13.5025 18.7105 7.6500 69.610

Out of the TOP 6 clubs, FOUR are English. :thumbsup

Premier League > Serie A

He was special,that matters

You talk about pride yet you are an Italian living in America. And Arsenal are not owned by Arabs.

And that counters the fact 4 Engish teams have been in the CL final over the past 3 years? No it doesnt, so wtf is your point? You just dont get it, the fact English teams have dominated the CL over recent years shows the strength of the league. You can only name one Italian team in the CL final over the past 3 years. 4 vs 1, do you see where this is going?

:1orglaugh

When was the last time AC milan won the league, the cup and the champions league in the same season, then, went on to win the intercontinental club world cup the following season?

Oh thats right they have never done it! manchester united have in 1999.

Manchester united last season also won the premier league, the champions league, and again another FIFA club world cup!

You are again mentioning the last 20 years. the last 3 years england have dominated Europe and will continue to do so.

Manchester winners in '08. liverpool in '05 plus another final, arsenal and chelsea have also made it to the final in the last 10 years.

How can you say don't mention Ronaldo? He came to england when he was young, Ferguson has trained him and made him the player he is today THE BEST IN THE WORLD! 2 years in a row.

I also notice how you take all your material from wiki answers. that means you have to actually look up your evidence? :1orglaugh what a joke.

And you can call me a little boy all you want. your a tiny little spick faggot and doesn't know shit about football. :1orglaugh

Hey -- come on, it's only a game. Don't be a bad loser :thumbsup

Saturday, 27 September 2008
Barclays Premier League
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Arsenal 1-2 Hull

I know i know Tim, i actually love this.

I haven;t had a good football talk in a while, heck i live in Atlanta,Ga who can i talk with about Champions League here?

When it comes down to Football calling each other names and stuff it's all cool. i hope the other take it the same way.


:thumbsup

Excactly :thumbsup

P.S. Serie A is still shit :thumbsup

yuck yuck yuck, you used that one last time. Still dont change the fact that Italians are diving fuck wads. Lucky fucks

Summary:

1. Serie A is boring
2. No italian teams left in the champions league because they are shit
3. you don't know fuck all about football
4. An english team is going to win it again this season if not Barca.
5. you've obviously lost touch with football living in Atlanta, you should go watch the braves play baseball.
6. your thread backfired and you now look like an idiot
7. you can respond to this message later with more wikianswers but we will own your pathetic knowledge of football yet again.