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Deej · 03-11-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AntiDrama

Right.......

ok youre right... i did...

my mistake...

If you are webair the statement stands... if you are not I guess I retract it...

Still, being called a pussy is every day shit... saying in public that someone is running what you feel to be an underage porn site is fucking stupid

Thurbs · 03-12-2009, 12:00 AM

Isprime

03-12-2009, 12:04 AM

You must get work from MojoHost, because you host your website LUMPYIMAGES (sad excuse for a web design service) with (synergy-dti) GotWebHost.

You should consider hosting with MOJO if you like them so much DEEJ!!!

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Originally Posted by Deej

my mistake...

Diomed · 03-12-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AliGbone

Not at all mate i been with lots of hosts and dis crew by far the best on services, pricing and makin me bottom lime more money macka!

this guy is on virtual.

Deej · 03-12-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiDrama

You must get work from MojoHost, because you host your website LUMPYIMAGES (sad excuse for a web design service) with (synergy-dti) GotWebHost.

You should consider hosting with MOJO if you like them so much DEEJ!!!

nifty ... youre researching me and mine...

Brad has never given me work. I have used his hosting in the past... many of my clients have as well...

I find their service to be some of the utmost professional. Super quick and ALWAYS thorough. Plus, Brad is a good guy in person.

I guess I have won a photo chopping contest where i put brad holding a big black dick...

I won 75 bucks I think...

now webair...

bad past experience... many others as well... usually a monthly(sometimes weekly) webair thread containing negative feedback...

LOTS of down time...

Not always, but there are spurts of constant hate and downtime for them...

weighing the two... yea, I'm going to go with Mojo>Webair

I never said you arent entitled to YOUR opinion... as anyone else here... About hosts... but you said some fucked up shit about a good guy because he talked bad about your 'friends'...

You are wrong, I am right

Deej · 03-12-2009, 12:19 AM

Ill go ahead and add here that I havent seen a webair hate thread for some time now...

Im glad for that...

but it dosnt dismiss the past...

Like I said Im weighing the two experiences...

the top three are as I previously stated

03-12-2009, 12:21 AM

I agree Brad @ MoJo seems like a cool guy. I believe he is doing pretty well for himself.

I was not dissing Bob. I took observation of one of his models and flew off the handle a little bit with it. Never did I say "she is 'xx' age.".

This really isn't about Bob anymore, though - its now about the problem I have with you. You think you're tough don't you? I know you're weak.

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Originally Posted by Deej

I never said you arent entitled to YOUR opinion... as anyone else here... About hosts... but you said some fucked up shit about a good guy because he talked bad about your 'friends'...

chupachups · 03-12-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

saying in public that someone is running what you feel to be an underage porn site is fucking stupid

Also quite close a reason to be banned..

03-12-2009, 12:28 AM

Its an opinion. I do think she looks underage.

I never once said she is. I do not know the facts.

If GFY wants to ban me, so be it.

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Originally Posted by chupachups

Also quite close a reason to be banned..

Deej · 03-12-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiDrama

I agree Brad @ MoJo seems like a cool guy. I believe he is doing pretty well for himself.

I was not dissing Bob. I took observation of one of his models and flew off the handle a little bit with it. Never did I say "she is 'xx' age.".

This really isn't about Bob anymore, though - its now about the problem I have with you. You think you're tough don't you? I know you're weak.

wow...

it was always about what you said about SBJ...

never changed... and, YES, you were dissing him, that was your full intention since you took his opinion on webair as a diss...

your verbal(textual) opinion was just totally uncalled for

03-12-2009, 12:34 AM

ok big guy... step on up

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Originally Posted by Deej

Deej · 03-12-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiDrama

I know you're weak.

This is funny too...

I mean I assume you mean physically?

Not like I dont just powerlift the back end of cars off the ground for fun or nothing... my shoulders dont ache from yesterday's gym workout...

or do you mean mentally?

I didnt score the highest IQ in my psych class...

I didn't build multiple businesses out of NOTHING...

So fucking weak...

Youre not trying to start a fight with me are you? That would be weak and childish keyboard warrior shit right there... if you were

03-12-2009, 12:38 AM

You're annoying. I can't believe you actually have any 'clients'.

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Originally Posted by Deej

Youre not trying to start a fight with me are you? That would be weak and childish keyboard warrior shit right there... if you were

Deej · 03-12-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiDrama

You're annoying. I can't believe you actually have any 'clients'.

yea i dont have 'clients' and I dont have 'friends'...

They are all just stuffed animals laying around drinking tea...

Im still right, and youre still wrong

03-12-2009, 12:42 AM

You won a typing match. I'm happy for you. I really do not have the time to sit on GFY in a thread with DEEJ discussing a non-business related agenda.

I have some work to do before I go to bed. Feel free to answer ICQ so we can work out our marital problems there in the near future.

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Originally Posted by Deej

yea i dont have 'clients' and I dont have 'friends'...

They are all just stuffed animals laying around drinking tea...

Im still right, and youre still wrong

Deej · 03-12-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiDrama

You won a typing match. I'm happy for you. I really do not have the time to sit on GFY in a thread with DEEJ discussing a non-business related agenda.

I have some work to do before I go to bed. Feel free to answer ICQ so we can work out our marital problems there in the near future.

I got work to do as well...

You admitted to going a little too far on what you said about SBJ's business. That's commendable.

All is well...

Nice sig, quoted for truth

NETbilling · 03-12-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DatingGold

www.righthosting.com

Righthosting is certainly doing very well.

pr0 · 03-12-2009, 12:47 AM

Top host? That's a loaded question.

As far as # of customers in adult/mainstream & otherwise....

I would say Webair/NationalNet/Isprime-Oxeo & Techiemedia as having the most customers. I've seen all of these datacenters/and or talked to the owners & have a pretty good idea of customer amounts.

As far as the "top" hosts overall in adult total. Speaking of quite of quite a few clients & superior service/managed hosting & colo....geez

Webair (NYC & Amsterdam & Canada)
Nationalnet (Atlanta)
Mojohost (Florida)
Techiemedia ( owns a huge DC in Jersey )
Isprime & Oxeo ( out of NYC )
Reflected
Phatservers
oc3/pacificrack (mostly california)
swift
choopa
MysiD (dc's in canada/amsterdam/hongkong/germany/etc)
ironpathnetworks/quikhost (outta bmore/va)
yellowfiber ( zaks network )
cavecreek (ccbills operation)
righthosting (netbillings operation)
flyingcroc (formerly mtree's operation)

Then you got Virtumikes operation out of Amsterdam which is pretty fucking huge itself.

I know i am missing quite a few....ones out of business now that were huge, candidhosting/likewhoa (either out of biz or taken over)

Heck even Hungryman has his own host

god the fucking list goes on with that.....but its a very long list, all encompassing thousands of adult clients, not even counting mainstream

CyberHustler · 03-12-2009, 01:00 AM

NemesisEnforcer · 03-12-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

I know i am missing quite a few....ones out of business now that were huge, candidhosting/likewhoa (either out of biz or taken over)

Still in business as PowerMedium and now Hostway. However, my invoice still says PowerMedium.

The folks I miss are PrimeNet. Everything, including full backups, password protection scripts, etc. were included as part of your hosting package. According to the owner, if you?re out of business we don?t make any money. Thus, he included everything you needed to stay afloat.

TurboAngel · 03-12-2009, 06:23 AM

Well everyone knows what I will say.

StaceyJo · 03-12-2009, 08:53 AM

I go for Webair.

03-12-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Well everyone knows what I will say.

Webair?

PacificRack.com get's my vote.

Phoenix · 03-12-2009, 09:16 AM

for my serious business...like memberchannels and some other stuff

we use oc3....solid...dependable..and easy to work with

for my other stuff...blogs...that i cant get to make money..lol

i think im switching hosts for that stuff soon...so i prefer not to say

03-12-2009, 09:58 AM

Don't forget Britband.com

Net Money · 03-12-2009, 10:08 AM

Well there are a few good hosts to choose from and I have been with many so my list would be:

Techiemedia
NatNet
mojohost
phatservers
isprime

If you cant make it work with one of those you are destined to fail so no need to go on.

Wiredoctor · 03-12-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Well everyone knows what I will say.

Havent you been happy with webair for 6+ years..

Anyway the real list of the best 3 hosts from someone who has been around is:

natnet
TechieMedia
phatservers

Runner ups
mojohost
isprime

LBBV · 03-12-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cess

I believe Bill from natnet was recently talking about how it's damn near impossible to keep your sites up 24/7 unless you have them hosted at two tier 4 datacenters. Well unless I'm mistaken here natnet site says their datacenter is tier1 standards. Which I'm sure is fine most of the time but if that's true than it's not the best of the best host.

You are mistaken. No where on our site does it say we have a lowly tier 1 data center. Even if we did why in the world would we put that on our site? Tier 1 is the worst level data center you can have. Our data center is N+1 on ALL critical infrastructure, including UPS/Gensets, HVAC and core networking. Anyone who has toured our data center can verify that.

You might be referring to this segment on our web site...

"NationalNet's infrastructure has been designed to support the most discriminating and demanding organizations. Based on our state-of-the-art data center facilities and tier-one partnerships, NationalNet's infrastructure delivers the highest levels of security, performance and availability."

Easy mistake to make - and given that you read it the way you did, I may have to restructure that sentence so it's more clear.

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I'd be surprised if any of the other "top adult host" listed have a tier 4 datacenter either.

Well, I'd be surprised if anyone in the adult industry would PAY the prices that it takes to be in a tier 4 data center. Is anyone here hosted in the softlayer.com DC data center (the one center that they have that is tier 4)? Most likely not because they are cost prohibitive. Here is some data from a Tier 1 Research document (http://www.tier1research.com/).

Cost per square foot to build a 10,000 sq ft data center to 150 W/square foot specifications.

Tier II: ~$875
Tier III: ~$1,250
Tier IV: ~$2,125

Big difference between tier 2 and 4. To do the math, the tier 2 data center costs $8,750,000. The tier 4 costs $21,250,000. That's HUGE.

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So if I had to take a wild stab at it, I'd say softlayer.com. They can handle DDOS attacks, they have a tier4 datacenter or centers. They have fast support from what I've heard. There's little complaints if any on the web about them and they are huge. They offer control panels if you want them which allow you to run your sites however you wish.
That's just not the case with some of these adult host that don't have control panel options.

You DO realize that many customers do not WANT to use control panels? You would be surprised, I think, about the number of people that don't want to know anything about a server, or how it works or what a control panel does. All they care about is managing their site and making money - they'll let someone else deal with the server stuff.

Are hosts like us, Mojo and some of the other great "no control panel" hosts mentioned here for everyone? Of course not. But there is a pretty large demand for us hosts that do a lot of hand holding. Just because a host doesn't offer a control panel doesn't mean that they are a sub-par host.

Okay...I've rambled enough.

-- Bill

Andy CHOOPA · 03-12-2009, 04:05 PM

Just passing by

PenetratinP · 03-12-2009, 04:49 PM

I sleep soundly at night with National Net.

seeric · 03-12-2009, 04:50 PM

Mojohost
natnet
phatservers
webair

fris · 03-12-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PenetratinP

I sleep soundly at night with National Net.

whatever happen to gorillagras?

03-12-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PenetratinP

I sleep soundly at night with National Net.

Please hit me up in regards to FreshBucks, I sent you an ICQ.

SpeakEasy · 03-12-2009, 07:07 PM

From what I know there are a few good ones.

Techiemedia
isprime
natnet
phatservers
mojohost

Dennis69 · 03-12-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

phatservers rocks it

What he said... been with them 11 years now and they fucking rock!!! Whoever said Webair needs to use the search on GFY and they'll rethink there post!!!!

davidd · 03-12-2009, 08:40 PM

Like Whoa

Just ask Bone Prone.

Spudstr · 03-13-2009, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cess

I believe Bill from natnet was recently talking about how it's damn near impossible to keep your sites up 24/7 unless you have them hosted at two tier 4 datacenters. Well unless I'm mistaken here natnet site says their datacenter is tier1 standards. Which I'm sure is fine most of the time but if that's true than it's not the best of the best host.

I'd be surprised if any of the other "top adult host" listed have a tier 4 datacenter either. Not that's all that matters, if the support sucks or a ton of other things then the service probably sucks too.

I wonder how many of these "top adult host" can handle a big DDOS attack too. Many host out there cannot handle one, I'd bet these top adult host can't either. Maybe they can get it under control after some serious downtime but then again maybe not if it's your site, some host won't host your stuff if you get hit.

Aside from the cost of building a tier IV datacenter, do you know the details of it? Pretty much aside from the watt/sq foot factor is the dual power grid requirement, true n+2 building. Do you know how many tier IV datacenters there are in the US? Not many. There is only 1 in Northern virginia/probably all of Virginia and that is the new CRG West Facilitity.

DDOS migiation is expensive, and the people who do a real good job at it are the ones who specialize it, i.e clean pipe etc lots of hosts do good jobs but if you get an attack and it saturates pipes, multi 10G pipes well your just out of luck at that point and your not going to mitigate it.

xxxjay · 03-13-2009, 05:31 AM

natnet, natnet, and natnet

DutchTeenCash · 03-13-2009, 08:00 AM

as long as mojohost is in there its good

Cyber Fucker · 03-13-2009, 08:15 AM

Webair, National Net and Isprime.
And Webair gets my vote as I am happy to host with them.

Chit Chat · 03-13-2009, 09:03 AM

Based on the responses up to post #90, here is the list of the top 6 starting with the most 'voted' for:

(1) National Net
(2) Mojo Host
(3) Isprime
(4) Techmedia
(5) Webair
(6) Phatservers

NETbilling · 03-13-2009, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBBV

You are mistaken. No where on our site does it say we have a lowly tier 1 data center. Even if we did why in the world would we put that on our site? Tier 1 is the worst level data center you can have. Our data center is N+1 on ALL critical infrastructure, including UPS/Gensets, HVAC and core networking. Anyone who has toured our data center can verify that.

You might be referring to this segment on our web site...

"NationalNet's infrastructure has been designed to support the most discriminating and demanding organizations. Based on our state-of-the-art data center facilities and tier-one partnerships, NationalNet's infrastructure delivers the highest levels of security, performance and availability."

Easy mistake to make - and given that you read it the way you did, I may have to restructure that sentence so it's more clear.

Well, I'd be surprised if anyone in the adult industry would PAY the prices that it takes to be in a tier 4 data center. Is anyone here hosted in the softlayer.com DC data center (the one center that they have that is tier 4)? Most likely not because they are cost prohibitive. Here is some data from a Tier 1 Research document (http://www.tier1research.com/).

Cost per square foot to build a 10,000 sq ft data center to 150 W/square foot specifications.

Tier II: ~$875
Tier III: ~$1,250
Tier IV: ~$2,125

Big difference between tier 2 and 4. To do the math, the tier 2 data center costs $8,750,000. The tier 4 costs $21,250,000. That's HUGE.

You DO realize that many customers do not WANT to use control panels? You would be surprised, I think, about the number of people that don't want to know anything about a server, or how it works or what a control panel does. All they care about is managing their site and making money - they'll let someone else deal with the server stuff.

Are hosts like us, Mojo and some of the other great "no control panel" hosts mentioned here for everyone? Of course not. But there is a pretty large demand for us hosts that do a lot of hand holding. Just because a host doesn't offer a control panel doesn't mean that they are a sub-par host.

Okay...I've rambled enough.

-- Bill

You da man Bill!

Paparazzi · 03-13-2009, 10:49 AM

I LOVE the guys over at Techie Media

GonZo · 03-13-2009, 12:18 PM

I have boxes at each of these hosts

MojoHost
NationalNet
NakedHosting
CaroNet

Different boxes for different purposes as well as hosts which is why I have several.

tbkhor · 03-13-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBBV

You DO realize that many customers do not WANT to use control panels? You would be surprised, I think, about the number of people that don't want to know anything about a server, or how it works or what a control panel does. All they care about is managing their site and making money - they'll let someone else deal with the server stuff.

Are hosts like us, Mojo and some of the other great "no control panel" hosts mentioned here for everyone? Of course not. But there is a pretty large demand for us hosts that do a lot of hand holding. Just because a host doesn't offer a control panel doesn't mean that they are a sub-par host.

I am one of your customers do not want control panel. I enjoys leaving it to your staffs and they are really doing a very good job.

CyberHustler · 03-14-2009, 12:57 PM

My vote is with Phatservers... You get a control panel + all the hand holding you need.

Jman · 03-14-2009, 12:58 PM

Brad as a big boat

Tony as got the most game

Mike as got the best hair

minddust · 03-14-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Well everyone knows what I will say.

What happened? webair didn't send you a tshirt?

03-12-2009, 12:19 AM	#56
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Ill go ahead and add here that I havent seen a webair hate thread for some time now... Im glad for that... but it dosnt dismiss the past... Like I said Im weighing the two experiences... the top three are as I previously stated __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

03-12-2009, 12:47 AM	#68
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Top host? That's a loaded question. As far as # of customers in adult/mainstream & otherwise.... I would say Webair/NationalNet/Isprime-Oxeo & Techiemedia as having the most customers. I've seen all of these datacenters/and or talked to the owners & have a pretty good idea of customer amounts. As far as the "top" hosts overall in adult total. Speaking of quite of quite a few clients & superior service/managed hosting & colo....geez Webair (NYC & Amsterdam & Canada) Nationalnet (Atlanta) Mojohost (Florida) Techiemedia ( owns a huge DC in Jersey ) Isprime & Oxeo ( out of NYC ) Reflected Phatservers oc3/pacificrack (mostly california) swift choopa MysiD (dc's in canada/amsterdam/hongkong/germany/etc) ironpathnetworks/quikhost (outta bmore/va) yellowfiber ( zaks network ) cavecreek (ccbills operation) righthosting (netbillings operation) flyingcroc (formerly mtree's operation) Then you got Virtumikes operation out of Amsterdam which is pretty fucking huge itself. I know i am missing quite a few....ones out of business now that were huge, candidhosting/likewhoa (either out of biz or taken over) Heck even Hungryman has his own host god the fucking list goes on with that.....but its a very long list, all encompassing thousands of adult clients, not even counting mainstream __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

03-12-2009, 08:53 AM	#72
StaceyJo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8,960	I go for Webair. __________________ /_______ WebCashMaker ______\ \| _TeenageDecadence - Young Board Naked Teens. \| \| ____ NonNudeGirls - Female Puberty Photos. ____ \| \| _ HerSelfPics - The ORIGINAL exGF SelfPic site. __ \| \.______ xPosing - Wife Photosharing site. _______./

03-12-2009, 09:16 AM	#74
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	for my serious business...like memberchannels and some other stuff we use oc3....solid...dependable..and easy to work with for my other stuff...blogs...that i cant get to make money..lol i think im switching hosts for that stuff soon...so i prefer not to say __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

03-12-2009, 04:05 PM	#79
Andy CHOOPA Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Red Bank NJ Posts: 1,156	Just passing by __________________ Andy Choopa ICQ: 412-203-056 DUAL XEONS W/100 Mbps UNMETERED- $199/ month!!

03-12-2009, 12:00 AM	#52
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	Isprime

03-12-2009, 01:00 AM	#69
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,062

03-12-2009, 06:23 AM	#71
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Well everyone knows what I will say.

03-12-2009, 09:58 AM	#75
Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE Guest Posts: n/a	Don't forget Britband.com

03-12-2009, 10:08 AM	#76
Net Money Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 539	Well there are a few good hosts to choose from and I have been with many so my list would be: Techiemedia NatNet mojohost phatservers isprime If you cant make it work with one of those you are destined to fail so no need to go on.

03-12-2009, 04:49 PM	#80
PenetratinP Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,689	I sleep soundly at night with National Net.

03-12-2009, 04:50 PM	#81
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	Mojohost natnet phatservers webair

03-12-2009, 07:07 PM	#84
SpeakEasy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Internet Posts: 2,681	From what I know there are a few good ones. Techiemedia isprime natnet phatservers mojohost

03-12-2009, 08:40 PM	#86
davidd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,076	Like Whoa Just ask Bone Prone.

03-13-2009, 05:31 AM	#88
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	natnet, natnet, and natnet __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

03-13-2009, 08:00 AM	#89
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	as long as mojohost is in there its good __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

03-13-2009, 08:15 AM	#90
Cyber Fucker Hmm Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. Posts: 12,642	Webair, National Net and Isprime. And Webair gets my vote as I am happy to host with them. __________________

03-13-2009, 09:03 AM	#91
Chit Chat Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Here and there Posts: 747	Based on the responses up to post #90, here is the list of the top 6 starting with the most 'voted' for: (1) National Net (2) Mojo Host (3) Isprime (4) Techmedia (5) Webair (6) Phatservers __________________ ICQ: 403163346

03-13-2009, 10:49 AM	#93
Paparazzi Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,488	I LOVE the guys over at Techie Media __________________ Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth When Quality Counts

03-13-2009, 12:18 PM	#94
GonZo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 3,180	I have boxes at each of these hosts MojoHost NationalNet NakedHosting CaroNet Different boxes for different purposes as well as hosts which is why I have several. Last edited by GonZo; 03-13-2009 at 12:19 PM..

03-14-2009, 12:57 PM	#96
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,062	My vote is with Phatservers... You get a control panel + all the hand holding you need.

03-14-2009, 12:58 PM	#97
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,732	Brad as a big boat Tony as got the most game Mike as got the best hair __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program We also do WL at $0.00 upfront costs Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216