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pornguy · 03-19-2009, 06:51 AM

The one I keep getting is that they need to make FAST Money.

Yeah you can make some sales fast if you know what you are doing but dont expect to replace that income you have/had within 1 month

Barefootsies · 03-19-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

The one I keep getting is that they need to make FAST Money.

Yeah you can make some sales fast if you know what you are doing but dont expect to replace that income you have/had within 1 month

Amen toe dat shit BRO.

I've talked to many who think adult online is equivalent to a scratch off lotto ticket.

ThumbLord · 03-19-2009, 09:30 AM

well there is no money in TGP's that is 4 sure

Paul Markham · 03-19-2009, 12:32 PM

Non exclusive is saturated always got me.

Yes paysites keep buying non exclusive because it is not keeping members happy and exclusive shooters shooting content for peanuts because they want to work for peanuts and love their customers. They could shoot non exclusive and sell it so many times they would never work for peanuts.

Niche and fetish excluded.

This is my view of niche and fetish. Often the content is hard to come by. If it's so successful the sites would be spending proper money to get more shot.

The problem with all the rules is people apply them to everything even if they only apply to one thing.

And if all the "experts" knew so much we should all be making a fortune.

Barefootsies · 03-19-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The problem with all the rules is people apply them to everything even if they only apply to one thing.

And if all the "experts" knew so much we should all be making a fortune.

tony286 · 03-19-2009, 12:37 PM

I got one because you are in porn that means you cannot be ethical in your business practices.

Paul Markham · 03-20-2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Over the past few months I have had some interesting conversations. Whether industry vets, those kinda new, or those who are just looking to invest in adult.

In those various conversations and reading boards what are some of the most common misconceptions you come across? Whether friends and family, board persona's, or people in 'da biz'?

Here are some that give me a chuckle....

1. Clip stores are not worth the effort.
2. You can't make real money on content that is not HD, high end, super models.
3. You must have a pay site, DVD, VOD, to make your money back on content.
4. Niche or fetish is overrated.
5. The message boards are how you gauge the health of 'the industry'.
6. No real business gets done on boards anymore.
7. TGP's are dead.
8. The pay site model is dead.
9. Programmers or designers that are high end are worth every penny.
10. No industry 'ballas' read the boards anymore.

What are yours?

When reading boards to form an opinion on this industry you have to realise what the boards are about and the main reasons for many of the posts and motivation of the posters.

More often than not with sponsors and some affiliates it's to promote their site to get more affiliates to send more traffic. Which is fine until it escalates to a level where people are lying or in the least misleading.

1. Clip stores are not worth the effort. For many they are not and for sponsors it's not good for them to have affiliates realise that they could make money from clips stores.

2. You can't make real money on content that is not HD, high end, super models. For years there have been so many people telling others that you have to have this or that to make money. Which by coincidence is exactly what they have. I was told by many that the I would never make money out of my style of shooting and it had to be theirs to succeed. They are all gone now from the content game. WHOOPS!!

3. You must have a pay site, DVD, VOD, to make your money back on content. But non exclusive is saturated so it must be easy to sell non exclusive and it must be easy to get sign ups on those sites to saturate the content. Yes very often the advice is contradicting other advice.

4. Niche or fetish is overrated. Unless you really know the niche and love it like your customers do it is over rated.

5. The message boards are how you gauge the health of 'the industry'.
6. No real business gets done on boards anymore. Yes often the advice contradicts itself.

9. Programmers or designers that are high end are worth every penny. The problem is few people in this industry can afford to pay top rates. Or just won't.

I could of said more but the real advice I can give you when taking advice is this. The advisor is selling you something, step back and use logic to look at what he says. Then act accordingly.

Barefootsies · 03-20-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

When reading boards to form an opinion on this industry you have to realise what the boards are about and the main reasons for many of the posts and motivation of the posters.

More often than not with sponsors and some affiliates it's to promote their site to get more affiliates to send more traffic. Which is fine until it escalates to a level where people are lying or in the least misleading.

1. Clip stores are not worth the effort. For many they are not and for sponsors it's not good for them to have affiliates realise that they could make money from clips stores.

2. You can't make real money on content that is not HD, high end, super models. For years there have been so many people telling others that you have to have this or that to make money. Which by coincidence is exactly what they have. I was told by many that the I would never make money out of my style of shooting and it had to be theirs to succeed. They are all gone now from the content game. WHOOPS!!

3. You must have a pay site, DVD, VOD, to make your money back on content. But non exclusive is saturated so it must be easy to sell non exclusive and it must be easy to get sign ups on those sites to saturate the content. Yes very often the advice is contradicting other advice.

4. Niche or fetish is overrated. Unless you really know the niche and love it like your customers do it is over rated.

5. The message boards are how you gauge the health of 'the industry'.
6. No real business gets done on boards anymore. Yes often the advice contradicts itself.

9. Programmers or designers that are high end are worth every penny. The problem is few people in this industry can afford to pay top rates. Or just won't.

I could of said more but the real advice I can give you when taking advice is this. The advisor is selling you something, step back and use logic to look at what he says. Then act accordingly.

Nautilus · 03-20-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I know my niche through and through. I have shown some friends, who we've had these conversations, forums and message boards where members are talking about what they like in scenes.

Not a single time in all the years. All the boards. All the discussions has lighting, HD, or countless other things that are discussed endlessly on the boards ever mentioned (cool down Markham, I am not saying they are not important. I am saying knowing your niche trumps the rest).

They, that being the potential customer and target audience, talk about the ACTION.

That proves nothing, actually. Read any of the countless boards where people discuss mainstream movies, they also talk about action there too almost exclusively. If you believe that means people do not expect professional quality from a movie, try selling a DV feature to this market, shot same style you shoot your videos.

With all due respect, you succesfully selling your clips doesn't mean people do not want better technical quality. It's just the lack of competition.

Didn't mean any offense

Barefootsies · 03-20-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

Didn't mean any offense

None taken.

There is plenty of competition in foot fetish market. It's not my fault programs, and BRO studios can't get the fetish right. Furthermore, I'll listen to the e-mails I received from members and patrons, as well direct feedback of board members.

You are entitled to your opinion.

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03-19-2009, 12:37 PM	#56
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I got one because you are in porn that means you cannot be ethical in your business practices.