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Juicy D. Links 03-01-2009 11:17 AM

thats sneaky..................

SarahLLO 03-01-2009 11:18 AM

I bet that Webcams.com and PussyCash are happy that this thread degenerated into a PR slapfight instead of the original point ;) Takes the spotlight off their fuckups...

roly 03-01-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO (Post 15566190)
I bet that Webcams.com and PussyCash are happy that this thread degenerated into a PR slapfight instead of the original point ;) Takes the spotlight off their fuckups...

it's clear it's not a fuck up on their part

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-01-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15566153)
Google "pagerank leak" or "pagerank leakage"

I think you might want to recheck where you read about this..

PageRank Leak or PageRank Leakage, is sending PR to sites you don't intend to send to, not linking to another site causing a chunk of your PR to be taken away and given to them.

If your theory was true, than that means nobody would be linking in fear of losing their PR.

MoreMagic 03-01-2009 11:40 AM

Links in a Iframe, where is the PR problem at all?

bbobby86 03-01-2009 11:47 AM

They didn't close the <h2> tag... yea...

GAMEFINEST 03-01-2009 11:49 AM

seo vs seo!

Nicky 03-01-2009 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 15566290)
Links in a Iframe, where is the PR problem at all?

:upsidedow

AtlantisCash 03-01-2009 12:11 PM

Finally Gfy Rocket science Team solved Google's algoritm also, Congrats for the winners

Tjeezers 03-01-2009 12:22 PM

you place a code, you see what they place in it, and you replace it. Why make a fuzz about it. The code is editable in your editor.

fris 03-01-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fusionx (Post 15566128)
Absolute Bullshit. Show me anything that supports your theory.

Outbound links only dilute the value of each link. They have nothing to do with the PageRank assigned to the page itself.

If you think having 100+ outgoing links on a site isnt going to decrease your Page Rank, you should quit now.

roly 03-01-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15566405)
you place a code, you see what they place in it, and you replace it. Why make a fuzz about it. The code is editable in your editor.


it's a traffic leak and is shady, many people will have missed it. why would you give a link to webcams.com if you weren't gtetting paid for it?

nico-t 03-01-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 15565925)
Heh, while you guys wave your e-penis' around attempting to knock each other out...

PageRank works like this...

PR1 page links to you, gives you PR, you link to another PR1, it gives it PR, DOES NOT take away from your PR.

The only thing that link in the iframe does, is send PR that you didn't want to send, to them.

aside from the fact that its rediculous a sponsor puts a hard link in their iframe code - its blatant stealing - your pr does depend on the number of outgoing links also. If you got a page with 1000 incoming links and 5000 outgoing links your pr is way worse than if you got only 10 outgoing links on a page with 1000 icoming links. Its pretty damn logical....

dig420 03-01-2009 12:51 PM

ok.... so which one of your SEO gods wants to do some seo consulting work?

crockett 03-01-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wizzart (Post 15565480)
PussyCash have same thing in their iframe code, only don't have h2 tag

see the competition made them do it..

Si 03-01-2009 01:11 PM

Google will punish any website which is sending too many outbound links and that is a fact.

on the other hand if you have 10-20 links outbound, and, 20,000 incoming links you will not see any affect and will not be punished.

But that being said they are still sneaky for hiding a backlink in the iframe (if that is the case)

MoreMagic 03-01-2009 01:38 PM

OMG it's a iframe people

grumpy 03-01-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15565921)
Don't really matter if I run any sites or not.

What matters is that pr0 is wrong about there being no PR leakage.

That iframe makes you link to 2 pages: first link is model page that tracks your sales and second link is webcams.com index page that doesn't track your sales. Google counts the outgoing links to these pages as separate links, thus PR leak.

Also, webcams.com know what they are doing, because they even set up a title tag for that link, to maximize SEO effect.

:2 cents:


google hates iframes, so the links in there have little to no value

KillerK 03-01-2009 01:47 PM

I am more mad it's a way to not pay you for sales then a PR leak.

Sands 03-01-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15566841)
I am more mad it's a way to not pay you for sales then a PR leak.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-01-2009 02:37 PM

heaven forbid you use your fucking head and modify the html.
100

Klen 03-01-2009 02:37 PM

Read this site ; http://seochat.com to learn more about pr and outgoing link influence.

cykoe6 03-01-2009 02:45 PM

I saw this a long time ago and just removed the <h2> and its contents. Seems like a pretty easy problem to solve.

fusionx 03-01-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15566603)
Google will punish any website which is sending too many outbound links and that is a fact.

on the other hand if you have 10-20 links outbound, and, 20,000 incoming links you will not see any affect and will not be punished.


This is basically true. But it has nothing to do with PageRank.

HandballJim 03-01-2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15567195)
I saw this a long time ago and just removed the <h2> and its contents. Seems like a pretty easy problem to solve.

Sometimes you edit some of these affiliate codes...and you get no credit at all. They should just fix this going forward...makes no sense to start fucking with them. Someone should just foward this thread to these companies.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-01-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 15566478)
aside from the fact that its rediculous a sponsor puts a hard link in their iframe code - its blatant stealing - your pr does depend on the number of outgoing links also. If you got a page with 1000 incoming links and 5000 outgoing links your pr is way worse than if you got only 10 outgoing links on a page with 1000 icoming links. Its pretty damn logical....

That has nothing to do with the pages PR, just the fact that google sees the page as a linkfarm and shit cans it anyway...

Badmaash 03-01-2009 03:16 PM

I was just about to prmote webcams.com today since I joined a long time ago but never had the time.

So what have they said about the issue?



Any way I put up a text link on my site for the following cams program and have already made $300 in one day!!!
http://promo.neondollars.com/banners...r_468x60_1.jpg

Badmaash 03-01-2009 03:19 PM

BTW - this cam company is going to have the top pornstars lining up to do live sex shows.... thought id tell you.

http://static.awempire.com/ban/awe/W...m_468x60_2.gif

NicelyWritten 03-01-2009 03:48 PM

I made the post on here https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/890345-webcams-com-extra-html.html to find out what's going on.

I myself did edit the code and it's gone but some of the issues some of the members are having is the fact that it's there in the first place, regardless of overall effect. The theory behind it is pretty sneaky. It was just something I wanted to point out without drama.

I don't care who makes more money but I care that we all make money. So let's get this sorted out and start making money again.

xsabn 03-01-2009 03:50 PM

webcams is not the only sponsor doing this. anyway , they do it wrong :) . i create my own iframes using XML or RSS feeds. Nobody forces you to have the link on these iframes, you can just delete it.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-01-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 15567348)
BTW - this cam company is going to have the top pornstars lining up to do live sex shows.... thought id tell you.

http://static.awempire.com/ban/awe/W...m_468x60_2.gif

are they still packing that ridiculous short revshare period?

Badmaash 03-01-2009 03:54 PM

Yah they still got a 14 day cookie which is great so that the pool of customers never dries up.

Nicky 03-01-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 15567496)
Yah they still got a 14 day cookie which is great so that the pool of customers never dries up.

Now that's a very over optimistic way to look at it IMO.

polish_aristocrat 03-01-2009 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 15567549)
Now that's a very over optimistic way to look at it IMO.

I don't think anyone reall knows how AWE's system work.. even though it's been explained to death

Phoenix 03-01-2009 04:14 PM

so are you guys going to send me some traffic or what ;)

d-null 03-01-2009 04:14 PM

some sponsors see sites like pornhub sitting at number one for huge terms on google, and their thinking is that they can use affiliates for relevancy and authority to their own sites and make more money off of se traffic than 98% of the affiliates putting up their links in the first place... they know that 98% of their affiliates will make very little or nothing but they help the sponsor's greater cause in the long run

when a company does a few things that raise your eyebrows you have to wonder, and sometimes it looks like the priority is shifting away from a main goal of a profitable partnership between sponsor and affiliates to where they are working toward a situation where the affiliates are becoming expendable

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-01-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15567595)
some sponsors see sites like pornhub sitting at number one for huge terms on google, and their thinking is that they can use affiliates for relevancy and authority to their own sites and make more money off of se traffic than 98% of the affiliates putting up their links in the first place... they know that 98% of their affiliates will make very little or nothing but they help the sponsor's greater cause in the long run

when a company does a few things that raise your eyebrows you have to wonder, and sometimes it looks like the priority is shifting away from a main goal of a profitable partnership between sponsor and affiliates to where they are working toward a situation where the affiliates are becoming expendable

with the direction the adult sector of im is moving, you can damn well bet there's a lot of bigname networks looking at working the affiliate out of the equation in any way they can...

PrivateEye 03-01-2009 06:12 PM

I think there has been a extra link in ever iframe I ever used...

If you dont like the link.....remove it ;-)

Kard63 03-02-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15566099)

If you know that DaveyJones is Dark Jedi then this pic was great. Otherwise... you blow:1orglaugh



BTW- DJ is right.

wizzart 03-02-2009 01:58 AM

PussyCash have rule that you can't change code or they can terminate your account.
And on this way they getting lot of free PR links and good positions on SERP


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