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|  02-28-2009, 04:32 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  Obama begins delivering on marijuana campaign statements To those watching from the sidelines, this is a big development:  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN2016651R.DTL Federal preemption is the legal basis for pot dispensary raids and pot-related arrests by the Feds. By giving more leeway to the states on this issue, state-based medical marijuana laws would be allowed to (pardon the pun) bud and bloom   Also, state-based research on medical marijuana might be lifted. If clear scientific research is produced regarding marijuana's medical usage, medical marijuana might become legal in all 50 states. Let's hope this new initiative isn't a half-baked (there goes the puns again) notion. | 
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|  02-28-2009, 04:34 AM | #2 | 
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|  02-28-2009, 05:19 AM | #3 | 
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|  02-28-2009, 06:05 AM | #4 | 
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				 | Medical Doctors will accept under the table cash bribes for diagnosis of a dumb stupid disease, heal it with marry jane license. | 
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|  02-28-2009, 06:33 AM | #5 | 
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				 | Good news. | 
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|  02-28-2009, 07:02 AM | #6 | 
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				 | fire it up. puff puff pass 
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|  02-28-2009, 07:06 AM | #7 | 
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				 | was the only reason I voted for him, he is the ONLY president to talk about marijuana this way in DECADES or EVER. Change is coming. 
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|  02-28-2009, 07:51 AM | #8 | 
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				 | go Obama   | 
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|  02-28-2009, 10:10 AM | #9 | 
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				 | Not going to happen. In the next decade we might see a loosening of the state raids but no way its going legal. Obama and his team have allready stated that they do NOT support legalization in an fashion on the change.gov site when that was the top interest of the people. There are too many cigarette and alchohol lobbyists with big money stopping this from happening. Sucks but its true. No way anything changes in all 50 states until the US goes bankrupt, which might happen though. 
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|  02-28-2009, 10:13 AM | #10 | 
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				 | We will forgive all if you decriminalize Mary Jane?  I like how you poeple think! 
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|  02-28-2009, 01:32 PM | #11 | 
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				 | Well he's going to tax the fuck out of me, I may as well be able to get high! | 
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|  02-28-2009, 01:52 PM | #12 | 
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				 | Excellent idea! Our society will be so much better off and we will be so much more competitive. Uhh, what were we talking about? I smoked a blunt an hour ago and I can't remember shit. 
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|  02-28-2009, 02:13 PM | #13 | 
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				 | What are you referring to? | 
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|  02-28-2009, 04:18 PM | #14 | 
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|  02-28-2009, 04:22 PM | #15 | 
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				 | LOL at posts | 
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|  02-28-2009, 04:22 PM | #16 | |
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|  02-28-2009, 04:36 PM | #17 | 
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|  02-28-2009, 04:57 PM | #18 | 
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				 | mmmm... I will move to US if it becomes the truth | 
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|  02-28-2009, 05:06 PM | #19 | 
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				 | he is keeping his word | 
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|  02-28-2009, 05:06 PM | #20 | 
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				 | Lord knows we can't have grown adult people enjoying themselves or having any freedom of thought. We have to keep the Fun Police busting everybody for partying. It's the only way to save this country! Jesus, what would our founding fathers say if they could see how the goddamn govt. is controlling everything we do? I'd bet Thomas Jefferson would hang us all for being traitors to the original ideals of our country and allowing the govt. to have all this power. | 
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|  02-28-2009, 05:11 PM | #21 | |
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|  02-28-2009, 05:33 PM | #22 | |
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 I wouldn't be surprised if Obama opens an investigation into the previous administration, namely their involvement in 9/11, the lies they told us that got them into Iraq, their smashing of the geneva convention, and their intrusion into the personal lives of thousands of Americans. Obama is going to be a revolutionary president. And he is at heart, a revolutionary himself. Power to the people. 
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|  02-28-2009, 06:26 PM | #23 | |
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|  02-28-2009, 06:47 PM | #24 | 
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				 | legalize it and tax the shit out of it.  Make money off it instead of burning money like we are with our "war on drugs" Sure we'll have marijuana related accidents as well as addicts, but no worse than alcohol. I don't smoke because I don't like to feel lazy and nonproductive, but I still think it would be a good move. | 
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|  02-28-2009, 07:29 PM | #25 | 
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				 | We'll see. I've got the feeling alot of shit will be going down in Washington. 
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|  02-28-2009, 07:35 PM | #26 | |
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 You think he's going to investigate 9/11? lmao 
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|  02-28-2009, 11:03 PM | #27 | 
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				 | Per an earlier thread about MJ legalization, even if it were to happen it's not a certainty that there will be much economic boost due to a substitution effect. | 
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|  02-28-2009, 11:12 PM | #28 | 
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				 | If they legalize weed how the hell are hippies and 17 year olds going to make money? 
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|  02-28-2009, 11:18 PM | #29 | |
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 The state of California is throwing around the idea of legalizing weed but it has nothing to do with Obama. 
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|  03-01-2009, 12:04 AM | #30 | 
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				 | hasn't CA legalilized it for ... hold on... medicenel purposes and the governer actively pursuing the taxation which may very well be a multi-billion dollar industry? | 
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|  03-01-2009, 12:22 AM | #31 | |
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 The state of California has been taxing the medicinal marijuana for awhile now. 
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|  03-01-2009, 12:29 AM | #32 | 
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				 | obaamania | 
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|  03-01-2009, 12:30 AM | #33 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 sounds like some things are gonna change in regards to weed real soon... | |
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|  03-01-2009, 12:41 AM | #34 | 
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				 | Oh you meant taxing it when it's completely legal across the board.  I thought you were talking about taxing the medicinal marijuana, which they already do. 
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|  03-01-2009, 02:57 AM | #35 | |
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 I do know that war crimes and 9/11 are two different thingds, but I think if enough people scream about it, it might happen. Obama may be just another politician, but I have faith, and very much hope that he is a man of the people. I've heard it said many times that to change the system, you must work within that system. You never know. He may be the man. 3 years 11 months to find out, give or take a few days. 
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|  03-01-2009, 07:14 AM | #36 | |
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 As a patient and advocate, yes, medical marijuana and patient rights mean a lot to me. You are either in the fight or you are on the sidelines. http://www.safeaccessnow.org (I am member) anyone who tokes, donate now. we have sued the FDA and continue to fight for YOUR rights. 
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|  03-01-2009, 07:21 AM | #37 | |
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 you are clouding the discussion with this "it wont be legal in 50 states" argument, no one is aying it is, not even Obama or Holder. But the 14th state for medical marijuana is on the way and that means we are on our way to half the states having medical marijuana laws to protect patients. 
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|  03-01-2009, 07:42 AM | #38 | 
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				 | Legalizing weed would go a long way towards making sure that Ben & Jerry's, White Castle, Spencer Gifts and The Discovery Channel stay afloat. Save jobs! | 
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|  03-01-2009, 08:03 AM | #39 | 
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				 | I sure hope the reason he came to canada was to compare the buds with his new bud from up north.  You guys need to start finding out what is process to grow for the goverment ;-) 
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|  03-01-2009, 08:18 AM | #40 | 
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				 | Obmam isnt doing anything there just turning the power over to the states 
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|  03-01-2009, 08:35 AM | #41 | |
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 Americans have set up collectives to grow for PATIENTS and people who need it, not so government can get bigger and richer. Grow your own, for yourself or those in need. Not the government There are cities in California that have very nice coop grow houses going and it is definitely not for the government, its for those in need, and those who want to use medical marijuana. You can give plants away, give away cuttings for clones, make cookies for cancer patients etc... that is going to help, nothing to do with government collecting funds on something they have no right to tax. I am not taxed on my tomato garden, nor any of the plants i grow and harvest vegaetables and fruit from, so marijuana should be no different., no tax. Grow !! 
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|  03-01-2009, 08:37 AM | #42 | |
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 States have had the power to do this for a long time, Bush has wanted to do away with it. He also encouraged DEA to raid. Obama wants to stop that. 
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|  03-01-2009, 11:30 AM | #43 | 
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				 | Great news, go Obama GO!! 
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|  03-01-2009, 01:35 PM | #44 | 
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				 | Yea, Go Obama go!  Keep spending our country into an oblivion of debt, nationalize everything you can, and keep our troops in every goddamn country!!  
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|  03-01-2009, 01:37 PM | #45 | 
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|  03-01-2009, 01:39 PM | #46 | 
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				 | What really scares me is that the raids still continue today despite the fact he has been the president for a month. Just because its not his appointed drug czar, is he not still his employer? WTF? 
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|  03-01-2009, 03:16 PM | #47 | 
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				 | Which is still a HUGE change in policy.  Remember, Federal preemption is a huge power and they are relaxing it for this particular issue. | 
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|  03-01-2009, 08:48 PM | #48 | |
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 I just can't believe that anyone would vote SOLELY on this issue, when the country is headed down a sewer hole - and that if both presidential candidates had similar views on medical marijuana, that in that case you wouldn't even bother to vote. That's what stuck out to me in the thread - so that's what I commented on. No great mystery. | |
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