The shotgun is designed for children and such weapons do not have to be registered - GoFuckYourself.com

Fletch XXX · 02-21-2009, 04:29 PM

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An 11-year-old boy shot his father's pregnant girlfriend in the back of the head while she was lying in bed in their western Pennsylvania farmhouse, then got on the school bus and went to school, authorities said Saturday.

The fifth-grader was picked up from school Friday by Pennsylvania State Police, who found Houk's body after her 4-year-old daughter told tree cutters on the property that she thought her mother was dead, Bongivengo said.

"She didn't actually eyewitness the shooting. She saw him with what she believed to be a shotgun and heard a loud bang," Bongivengo said, adding that the weapon, a youth model 20-gauge shotgun, was found in what police believed was the boy's bedroom.

The shotgun, which apparently belonged to Brown, is designed for children and such weapons do not have to be registered, Bongivengo said.

sentence of the day

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 04:33 PM

cue all the anti-firearm faggots to come in here blaming the shotgun when the obvious fault lays with the parents for a.) not properly educating their kids b.) leaving an unlocked firearm and ammunition laying around a house full of children...

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 04:43 PM

also, saying a 20 gauge shotgun is designed for children is fucking ridiculous...

Bill8 · 02-21-2009, 07:14 PM

What, you guys never heard of 20 guage and .410 shotguns designed for kids?

They exist. Whats the big deal.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 07:24 PM

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What, you guys never heard of 20 guage and .410 shotguns designed for kids?

They exist. Whats the big deal.

I understand you can getting shorter reached shotguns for youths yes. They are blatantly playing the angle by stating the shotgun wasdesigned for children though, which has no relevance whatsoever. A shotgun is designed with one purpose, to kill shit. Focus on what's at fault, an irresponsible parent. The type of firearm in question has nothing to do with the outcome. How would his had been any different if he rolled in a .22 cal biathlon rifle? It wouldn't have. Whoever wrote this wrote it with an obvious bias and it's extremely slanted...

Blame the gun, blame the gun, blame the gun...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-21-2009, 08:03 PM

Propaganda.

Bill8 · 02-21-2009, 08:06 PM

Corporate media, feeding sensationalistic non-news to the sickly minds of america.

Just another variation on the endless flow of mental diarrhea pouring out of the corporate media machinery.

MaDalton · 02-21-2009, 08:08 PM

i gave up on this topic - please continue killing each other

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i gave up on this topic - please continue killing each other

Will do...

Bill8 · 02-21-2009, 08:21 PM

Leaving aside the red herring of the gun designed for the use of kids, it does raise the interesting question of responsibility.

Personally, I figure parents should be held responsible if their kid uses a gun.

Whoever bought the kid the gun, without training him in it's consequences, should end up in jail. They are just as responsible for the death as the kid.

Lets hope thats how it turns out, no matter what crap the corporate media spews out.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-21-2009, 08:22 PM

oh snap...

Rochard · 02-21-2009, 08:22 PM

I believe the Uzi is also considered a toy, which is why a minor blew his head off with one recently.

Kids and guns. What a great mix.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 08:24 PM

It's plain and fucking simple. lock your guns up. locked cabinet with your fireams and ammunition. trigger locks on the guns. If you have children around you DO NOT HAVE GUNS LAYING AROUND. Well I always did as a kid, but I guess I knew better too...

eroticsexxx · 02-21-2009, 09:08 PM

20 gauge Browning Gold Hunter Youth Model shotgun - 13 inch length of pull and weighs only 7 pounds

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 09:12 PM

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20 gauge Browning Gold Hunter Youth Model shotgun - 13 inch length of pull and weighs only 7 pounds

Sweet, I wish I had one of those when I was a kid. I had to deal within a bigassed single shot over-under .22 over 20 gauge.

PurrrsianPussyKat · 02-21-2009, 09:15 PM

I bet the step mom took his xbox away!

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

I bet the step mom took his xbox away!

no those ones just run away and turn up frozen in snowbanks...

DirtyDanza · 02-21-2009, 09:16 PM

long guns do not have to be registered ..... onlyhandguns

and remember it's not the gun it's thehands it's in...

I can lay all my guns on a table and they will not hurt anyone.... until someone picks one up and plays with it.... no matter what treat every gun as if it's loaded

spacedog · 02-21-2009, 09:25 PM

Only a fucking irresponsible retard would not have their guns in one of these

tony286 · 02-21-2009, 09:28 PM

I blame the father,that gun should of been locked up.

EddieBrock · 02-21-2009, 09:29 PM

My first gun was a 410. The bottom line is if this boy wanted his mom dead he would have kill her with something else when she was sleeping. A 410 and 20 gauge are very forgiving guns, I had a hard time killing rabbits with mine. It is time to give guns a break, every kid over 10 should know the importance of gun safety and gun care (unless you live in the city). The bottom line is 20 and 410 gauge guns are made for kids, they have the same killing power of a high powered pellet gun. It would be very hard to kill someone with these guns by mistake.

EddieBrock · 02-21-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I blame the father,that gun should of been locked up.

I blame the kid.This was no accident, that barrel would have had to have been pressed to her head in order to kill her. If the gun wasn't there he would had used something else.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Was it a Valmet over and under? If so they are worth some bucks now!

To tell you the truth I don't remember. I'll have to check next time i'm out at my old man's ranch.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 09:45 PM

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If thats it and has the original scope. It's worth a lot of money.

nope definitely not the same rifle.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 09:54 PM

i am pretty sure it's a savage 24c. i seemed to recall it being a savage and ran it through google, which did check out. they did make a 22. over 20 gauge rifle and it looks very much the same as i remember.

i'll have to ask my old man next time i talk to him, but i'm about 95% on that...

DirtyDanza · 02-21-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

Only a fucking irresponsible retard would not have their guns in one of these

only a retard would lock themselvs out of there only protection...

it can be seen both ways....

I do not believe in gun locks I believe in gun safety

now if you have tons of guns then lock em up but keep a few out fully loaded for the bad guys... bad guys will not wait for you to unlock your safe....

oh and I'm NRA certified handgun instructor don't try to argue with me on whats right whats wrong... it's a matter of personal opinion and thoughts.... if you feel better with them locked up then lock em up... personally I do not.... and 99% of the true gun buffs I know do not either....

Ive been around guns since I was a very small boy... ive taken people on this board shooting i'm very safe with my weapons... but I do not belive in locking myself out of my only protection if an intruder breaks into your house you have nanoseconds to react and protect yourself and your family....

always keep one gun ready and ready to go....

reminds me of the idiots that won't keep one in the chamber and still carry... I just laugh....

PS: I'd make a bet with you that if you knew someone was at your front door coming in with a gun you could not get to yours in time if they were in a safe....

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 10:07 PM

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Yes, those were very popular. BTW I answered in the "fishing" post on where you should go to catch sturgeons. I'd invite you but I leave in 3 weeks for Eastern Europe and won't be back until August.

ah right, that was you. ya i have a friend here who has actually done spot counts for sturgeon. she's in her third year of school about to graduate and is looking to work with the fisheries department. she's wrote a few papers on the sturgeon and apparently they're what she wants to work with. weird, but i casually mentioned that i might be interested in fishing for sturgeon. i'm sure she wouldn't lead me astray when it comes time. i always wanted to put in the time and give sturgeon a go.

are they reasonably edible? I always kind of magined them being boney muddy tasting fish. but i never tried so i really don't know...

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

only a retard would lock themselvs out of there only protection...

it can be seen both ways....

I do not believe in gun locks I believe in gun safety

now if you have tons of guns then lock em up but keep a few out fully loaded for the bad guys... bad guys will not wait for you to unlock your safe....

oh and I'm NRA certified handgun instructor don't try to argue with me on whats right whats wrong... it's a matter of personal opinion and thoughts.... if you feel better with them locked up then lock em up... personally I do not.... and 99% of the true gun buffs I know do not either....

Ive been around guns since I was a very small boy... ive taken people on this board shooting i'm very safe with my weapons... but I do not belive in locking myself out of my only protection if an intruder breaks into your house you have nanoseconds to react and protect yourself and your family....

always keep one gun ready and ready to go....

reminds me of the idiots that won't keep one in the chamber and still carry... I just laugh....

PS: I'd make a bet with you that if you knew someone was at your front door coming in with a gun you could not get to yours in time if they were in a safe....

I'm rural, my guns are for hunting, outside season the most of the rifles ar elocked and stashed away safely. the most i ever really have out is the .22-250 for varmint or my lever .22. I admit, there's often guns unlocked around the family farm, but there's also not kids running around either. When I was a kid my old man had the fear of god put into me when it came to proper gun handling. I grew up stomping around in the bush shooting rabbits and grouse, or sitting out in the field blasting of bricks of .22 shells at the damned gophers. i like to shoot. big game, wingshooting, it's fun. I don't see any need for me to have a handgun, I've gone to the range a couple times to shoot, it's fun for sure. Maybe if I lived somewhere where I felt the need to protect myself with a firearm I'd have one, but I don't personally feel the need. I live in a place where I can leave my doors unlocked all day with no worries. If I had crazed nigras running around capping eachother in the streets and a rampant b&e rate, hell i'd probably be strapped too. my biggest worry is if the fucking bears are gonna tear up my garbage right now. paintball gun from the upstairs deck is usually enough to run them off.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-21-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

..oh yea, you're in for a great surprise when you take the steaks off the grill. I mainly cold smoke mine like the way Russian Jews do for lox. It's simply awesome.

nice, getting out this year is gonna be one of my 09 missions i guess. i should be coming around fo rmy mule buck draw again this year too. should be a pretty epic sporting year.

DirtyDanza · 02-21-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

I'm rural, my guns are for hunting, outside season the most of the rifles ar elocked and stashed away safely. the most i ever really have out is the .22-250 for varmint or my lever .22. I admit, there's often guns unlocked around the family farm, but there's also not kids running around either. When I was a kid my old man had the fear of god put into me when it came to proper gun handling. I grew up stomping around in the bush shooting rabbits and grouse, or sitting out in the field blasting of bricks of .22 shells at the damned gophers. i like to shoot. big game, wingshooting, it's fun. I don't see any need for me to have a handgun, I've gone to the range a couple times to shoot, it's fun for sure. Maybe if I lived somewhere where I felt the need to protect myself with a firearm I'd have one, but I don't personally feel the need. I live in a place where I can leave my doors unlocked all day with no worries. If I had crazed nigras running around capping eachother in the streets and a rampant b&e rate, hell i'd probably be strapped too. my biggest worry is if the fucking bears are gonna tear up my garbage right now. paintball gun from the upstairs deck is usually enough to run them off.

same here man... I grew up around them..... I was always taught and what I teach the best safty is your trigger finger....

always point at your target then find trigger.... it's such habbit when I grab my kids nerf guns I never touch trigger

locks , safes, all means nothing.... proper education is key... I was never told NO stay away I was told here let me explain... when you keep them away from kids they wonder and get curious....

btw

since im on a pro paintball team what kind of marker you got?

Paul Markham · 02-22-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieBrock

I blame the kid.This was no accident, that barrel would have had to have been pressed to her head in order to kill her. If the gun wasn't there he would had used something else.

Exactly. The problem is not the gun, not the kid, it's the community that teaches children that killing someone is a solution. Canada has more guns per head and a low death rate from gun related homicides. Here every other house in the villages has guns and the murder rate is very low.

It's the culture that teaches people to use guns that's to blame.

Paul Markham · 02-22-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

only a retard would lock themselvs out of there only protection...

it can be seen both ways....

I do not believe in gun locks I believe in gun safety

now if you have tons of guns then lock em up but keep a few out fully loaded for the bad guys... bad guys will not wait for you to unlock your safe....

oh and I'm NRA certified handgun instructor don't try to argue with me on whats right whats wrong... it's a matter of personal opinion and thoughts.... if you feel better with them locked up then lock em up... personally I do not.... and 99% of the true gun buffs I know do not either....

Ive been around guns since I was a very small boy... ive taken people on this board shooting i'm very safe with my weapons... but I do not belive in locking myself out of my only protection if an intruder breaks into your house you have nanoseconds to react and protect yourself and your family....

always keep one gun ready and ready to go....

reminds me of the idiots that won't keep one in the chamber and still carry... I just laugh....

PS: I'd make a bet with you that if you knew someone was at your front door coming in with a gun you could not get to yours in time if they were in a safe....

Maybe this is the problem. All statistics show that a gun in the house is more likely to be used against you than to protect the home owner. Still some think they have so much to gain using one. Until the reality hits them. The truth is for most people on the right side of the law will think of what they lose using a gun and that hesitation is enough to seal their fate.

Those on the wrong side of the law will think of what is to be gained using a gun and that also seals the fate of the victim. But sure their will be replies telling me how bit the balls are of some. Showing clearly the truth in my previous posts.

I read recently the statistics on soldiers in a war that shoot to kill. They reckon it's a low percentage. Trained soldiers in a war attacking or defending still think twice. But some civilian in his home will never think twice, he will shoot first and think second. That in itself is a problem.

Truth is we do it the other way around.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-22-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

since im on a pro paintball team what kind of marker you got?

i got a bt-4 ironhorse. i can get good range with the apex tip, but it's a little bulky though. especially in trees or tire forts. i like my buddy's spyder mr3. it's sleaker and still shoot snice and fast without bursting balls in the chamber or down the barrel. i got a couple junk tippman's too, but they are ball bustin machines...

CDSmith · 02-22-2009, 02:47 AM

So this kid blows his stepmom away with a shotgun designed for kids. He then tells the cops some fabricated story about an unidentified black truck in the yard, which says he is calculating and cunning and willing to lie to protect his criminal ass.

Conclusion: this kid is on his way to growing up to be a great little criminal. I wonder what or who taught him that it's okay to solve all his problems with a loaded gun?

Too bad because of his age he'll get little in the way of punishment, and his idiot father will likely not suffer much reprisal either, at least not nearly enough (other than losing his wife and unborn kid that is)

I'll say it again, I disagree with the youth crime act in both Canada & the US, I think kids that do this kind of premeditated shit need meaningful sentences that keep them out of society for a long time, meaningful counselling that lasts years, and the parent or parents need to be held responsible in cases where they so obviously are.

Case in point; if your kid's character is such that he's a willful little brat that doesn't always listen (especially about important things like when he's allowed/not allowed to touch a gun) then maybe it's a good idea not to give such a kid a firearm in the first place?

Dirty F · 02-22-2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

It's plain and fucking simple. lock your guns up. locked cabinet with your fireams and ammunition. trigger locks on the guns. If you have children around you DO NOT HAVE GUNS LAYING AROUND. Well I always did as a kid, but I guess I knew better too...

And this will never happen and that's why guns will ALWAYS be a big fucking problem in the US.

You keep defending your case with if this if that. There is no if. There are way too many guns and way too many people that shouldn't be allowed to have one and this results and shitloads of accidents. And it will always be like that.

Dirty F · 02-22-2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Maybe this is the problem. All statistics show that a gun in the house is more likely to be used against you than to protect the home owner. Still some think they have so much to gain using one. Until the reality hits them. The truth is for most people on the right side of the law will think of what they lose using a gun and that hesitation is enough to seal their fate.

Those on the wrong side of the law will think of what is to be gained using a gun and that also seals the fate of the victim. But sure their will be replies telling me how bit the balls are of some. Showing clearly the truth in my previous posts.

I read recently the statistics on soldiers in a war that shoot to kill. They reckon it's a low percentage. Trained soldiers in a war attacking or defending still think twice. But some civilian in his home will never think twice, he will shoot first and think second. That in itself is a problem.

Truth is we do it the other way around.

Guns are a huge fucking problem in the US. The chances of accidents happening with them rather than self protection is very big. They will defend it with if this if that but once again there is no if. This is reality and it's what's happening now. If you look at world wide stats then America is the only western country in the top 20 or so of countries with most gun violence. It's right inbetween all the shithole countries where everyone can walk around with a gun.

It's simply retarded.

Can't wait for the "if" replies

Machete_ · 02-22-2009, 03:47 AM

Why not start selling sticks of dynamite in kids size as well?

The Duck · 02-22-2009, 04:00 AM

How did he get access to the gun? And why the heck do shotguns for kids even exist?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-22-2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah

How did he get access to the gun? And why the heck do shotguns for kids even exist?

the same reason pacifiers come in adult sizes you fucking baby...

eroticsexxx · 02-22-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I'd make a bet with you that if you knew someone was at your front door coming in with a gun you could not get to yours in time if they were in a safe...

The solution: Biometrics

No key, no code. Just slip your finger(s) in the slot(s), and you're ready to go.

For handguns:

http://www.gunsafestore.com/GVB2000.htm

and even larger safes like this Browning one can be fitted with biometric lock protection:

http://www.gunsafestore.com/fabriquenationale.htm

The dogs barking are the first line of warning, the intrusion alarm system is the next, and if those don't run intruders off, Betsy and her little friend Mary Sue are loaded and ready to rock someone's world.

Dirty F · 02-22-2009, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

the same reason pacifiers come in adult sizes you fucking baby...

No big ass defense bs story? You simply can't without using "if" can you?

Dirty F · 02-22-2009, 05:07 AM

Basically all you gun lovers are admitting it's a problem. Every time you think you defend guns you are actually saying: Yes, it's a major problem but it wouldn't be IF people would do this IF people would do that.

BV · 02-22-2009, 05:14 AM

blah blah blah blah

Quagmire · 02-22-2009, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk

Why not start selling sticks of dynamite in kids size as well?

They do. They're called M80s

Fletch XXX · 02-22-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Sweet, I wish I had one of those when I was a kid. I had to deal within a bigassed single shot over-under .22 over 20 gauge.

I still have the family shotgun my grandfather gave me when I turned 10-11 and he told my mom he would begin taking me hunting. She was against it, but I still hve the gun till this day. First gun ever owned. Taught to hunt, kill, and skin anything that moves before 14.

Fletch XXX · 02-22-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

They do. They're called M80s

illegal in the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-80_(explosive)

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While there are currently many firecrackers sold legally in the United States today under names such as "M-80 Firecracker", "M-8000", or "M-##" (where ## is a number), all of these contain no more than 50 mg of flash powder, and the name is just a lure to make consumers think they are more powerful than they are

i grew up playing with cherry bombs and m80s though, but all that stuff is illegal now due to gun powder regulation in the 60s.

jMEGA · 02-22-2009, 08:04 AM

Quagmire · 02-22-2009, 08:21 AM

Paul Markham · 02-22-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Guns are a huge fucking problem in the US. The chances of accidents happening with them rather than self protection is very big. They will defend it with if this if that but once again there is no if. This is reality and it's what's happening now. If you look at world wide stats then America is the only western country in the top 20 or so of countries with most gun violence. It's right inbetween all the shithole countries where everyone can walk around with a gun.

It's simply retarded.

Can't wait for the "if" replies

I did not even need to go down the accidents path, the pro gun lobby have no answer to either the guns they think will protect them will be used against them, used by a member of a family to resolve an argument or accidents.

It all stems from Americans fear and their Constitution's attitude towards guns, which was written to deal with the English and Indians. And of course small dicks. ;)

mikesouth · 02-22-2009, 10:20 AM

The completely idiotic point of the story being that registration would have somehow prevented this is just typical nonsense.

The parents are at fault no matter how you slice it

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	cue all the anti-firearm faggots to come in here blaming the shotgun when the obvious fault lays with the parents for a.) not properly educating their kids b.) leaving an unlocked firearm and ammunition laying around a house full of children...

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	also, saying a 20 gauge shotgun is designed for children is fucking ridiculous...

02-21-2009, 07:14 PM	#4
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	What, you guys never heard of 20 guage and .410 shotguns designed for kids? They exist. Whats the big deal.

02-21-2009, 08:06 PM	#7
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	Corporate media, feeding sensationalistic non-news to the sickly minds of america. Just another variation on the endless flow of mental diarrhea pouring out of the corporate media machinery.

02-21-2009, 08:21 PM	#10
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	Leaving aside the red herring of the gun designed for the use of kids, it does raise the interesting question of responsibility. Personally, I figure parents should be held responsible if their kid uses a gun. Whoever bought the kid the gun, without training him in it's consequences, should end up in jail. They are just as responsible for the death as the kid. Lets hope thats how it turns out, no matter what crap the corporate media spews out.

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	It's plain and fucking simple. lock your guns up. locked cabinet with your fireams and ammunition. trigger locks on the guns. If you have children around you DO NOT HAVE GUNS LAYING AROUND. Well I always did as a kid, but I guess I knew better too...

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I blame the father,that gun should of been locked up.

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EddieBrock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 94	My first gun was a 410. The bottom line is if this boy wanted his mom dead he would have kill her with something else when she was sleeping. A 410 and 20 gauge are very forgiving guns, I had a hard time killing rabbits with mine. It is time to give guns a break, every kid over 10 should know the importance of gun safety and gun care (unless you live in the city). The bottom line is 20 and 410 gauge guns are made for kids, they have the same killing power of a high powered pellet gun. It would be very hard to kill someone with these guns by mistake.

02-21-2009, 09:54 PM	#25
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	i am pretty sure it's a savage 24c. i seemed to recall it being a savage and ran it through google, which did check out. they did make a 22. over 20 gauge rifle and it looks very much the same as i remember. i'll have to ask my old man next time i talk to him, but i'm about 95% on that...

02-22-2009, 02:47 AM	#34
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	So this kid blows his stepmom away with a shotgun designed for kids. He then tells the cops some fabricated story about an unidentified black truck in the yard, which says he is calculating and cunning and willing to lie to protect his criminal ass. Conclusion: this kid is on his way to growing up to be a great little criminal. I wonder what or who taught him that it's okay to solve all his problems with a loaded gun? Too bad because of his age he'll get little in the way of punishment, and his idiot father will likely not suffer much reprisal either, at least not nearly enough (other than losing his wife and unborn kid that is) I'll say it again, I disagree with the youth crime act in both Canada & the US, I think kids that do this kind of premeditated shit need meaningful sentences that keep them out of society for a long time, meaningful counselling that lasts years, and the parent or parents need to be held responsible in cases where they so obviously are. Case in point; if your kid's character is such that he's a willful little brat that doesn't always listen (especially about important things like when he's allowed/not allowed to touch a gun) then maybe it's a good idea not to give such a kid a firearm in the first place? __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

02-22-2009, 03:47 AM	#37
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	Why not start selling sticks of dynamite in kids size as well?

02-22-2009, 04:00 AM	#38
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	How did he get access to the gun? And why the heck do shotguns for kids even exist? __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

02-22-2009, 05:07 AM	#42
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Basically all you gun lovers are admitting it's a problem. Every time you think you defend guns you are actually saying: Yes, it's a major problem but it wouldn't be IF people would do this IF people would do that.

02-22-2009, 05:14 AM	#43
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02-22-2009, 08:04 AM	#47
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02-22-2009, 08:21 AM	#48
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02-22-2009, 10:20 AM	#50
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	The completely idiotic point of the story being that registration would have somehow prevented this is just typical nonsense. The parents are at fault no matter how you slice it __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.