Time Traveler from 2036: John Titor Discussion

[Voodoo]

Here are some interesting posts made back in 2001 by a supposed "Time Traveler" named "John Titor" from the year 2036. There are MANY posts that he made over a time frame back then, many of those posts included "Predictions" of future events. He also goes into detail about how "Time Travel" actually works, citing technology that a breakthrough technology from CERN (This just happened last year).

A very interesting read for those of you who are so inclined.

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Posted by John Titor on 01-27-2001 12:45 PM
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Greetings. I am a time traveler from the year 2036. I am on my way home after getting an IBM 5100 computer system from the year 1975.

My "time" machine is a stationary mass, temporal displacement unit manufactured by General Electric. The unit is powered by two, top-spin, dual-positive singularities that produce a standard, off-set Tipler sinusoid.

I will be happy to post pictures of the unit.

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Posted by John Titor on 02-01-2001 08:36 AM
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The 5100 had a very simple and unique feature that IBM did not account for and decided it was not in their best interest to advertise (which in hindsight was not very smart). This accidental feature was thus removed from any future desktop computers. In order to take advantage of this feature, the 5100 I have now required a couple of special “tweaks” that had to be done by one of the software engineers in 1975. Anyone who is familiar with this feature and was told to keep their mouth shut about it will be able to tell you what it is.

Yes we still have toilet tissue and some people still suffer from extreme anal fixation.

I have noticed and gotten used to the act of verbal conflict as a cathartic entertainment. I don’t totally understand it but I take no offense by it either. Perhaps we could just arm wrestle some day and still be able to have a pleasant conversation.

The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.

The source of power for the C204 that allows it to distort and manipulate gravity comes from two microsingularities that were created, captured and cleaned at a much larger and “circular” facility. The dual event horizons of each one and their mass is manipulated by injecting electrons onto the surface of their respective ergospheres. The electricity comes from batteries. The breakthrough that will allow for this technology will occur within a year or so when CERN brings their larger facility online.

Perhaps it would have been clearer to state that the math has been around since 1970. I would urge you to examine the properties of Kerr black holes and Tipler cylinders. An actual working prototype was first tested in 2034. On my worldline, time travel is not a public recreation but we are all aware that it exists. You may be disappointed to know that the ability to manipulate gravity is not the technical challenge that had to be overcome. Miniaturizing the clocks and sensors, creating clever ways to vent x-rays and creating a computer system dependable enough to calculate the changes required to the field were the main challenges. There are no missing pieces…just missing energy levels and a few very interesting subatomic particles.



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I've been reading John Titor's posts here and there over the past 6 or 7 years. Just to see how closely his "Predictions" were to actual events. It's quite accurate in hindsight.

Here is the entire message archive if you are feeling froggy to read it:
http://www.anomalies.net/object/titororiginalpost.html

There is a site dedicated to his posts and following world events:
http://www.johntitor.com


I know, I know... get me a foil hat, it's a scam, it's fake, blah blah... It is still interesting.

[J. Falcon]

[alias]

Yeah I checked that out one time, read a bunch of it.

[MindWaste]

well 'special “tweaks” that had to be done by one of the software engineers in 1975' Why does the time that an engineer comes from have to do the tweak? IT whould be the same if a engineer from present time or any other time at that did the tweak.

Bogus....

[HorseShit]

nice nintendo

[CaptainHowdy]

Gonna check it out... Thanks!

[Tim]

Very interesting!

[NaughtyRob]

Sorry, this did not happen.

"The civil war in the United States will start in 2004"

[minddust]

I
will
never
take
drug
again.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

JESUS FUCK I HATE THE JOHN TITOR STORY.

this used to be a big topic on the TOTSE forums back in the day. so god damn stupid.

it was just some dude fucking around on the net for fuck sakes...

[moeloubani]

time travel = not possible according to physics

A time traveler would without a doubt mention the attacks on the twin towers which happened just 8 months after his post.

[BradM]

Just like Nostradamus all of his predictions came true.

Oh wait.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by BradM

Just like Nostradamus all of his predictions came true.

Oh wait.

[Carmine Raguso]

I am a believer.

[John-ACWM]

Originally Posted by BradM

Just like Nostradamus all of his predictions came true.

Oh wait.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by MindWaste

well 'special ?tweaks? that had to be done by one of the software engineers in 1975' Why does the time that an engineer comes from have to do the tweak? IT whould be the same if a engineer from present time or any other time at that did the tweak.

Bogus....

Just because of that it's bogus? The word time traveler wasn't enough?

[Fucksakes]

never seen this before.. very interesting to read thou, almost like reading a good book.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

It's quite accurate in hindsight.

Someone who travels in time shouldn't be quite accurate. He should be able to tell us things that will happen 100% exactly like he said it would.

[Juilan]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

time travel = not possible according to physics

A time traveler would without a doubt mention the attacks on the twin towers which happened just 8 months after his post.

The Titor story was just that, a story, but according to Einstein and quantum theory, time travel could be possible.

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by GetNaughty

Sorry, this did not happen.

"The civil war in the United States will start in 2004"

Yap what about this, not even close lol

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

time travel = not possible according to physics

I thought that a guy that was just a bit better at physics than you said time travel IS possible

[Matt 26z]

Here is Einstein's theory set to an animated video for anyone who thinks that time travel is impossible...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=V7vpw4AH8QQ

[Fucksakes]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01577799086630

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Someone who travels in time shouldn't be quite accurate. He should be able to tell us things that will happen 100% exactly like he said it would.

Quantum Physics as well as some studies on Alignment Theory aka String Theory indicate that every possible outcome of a particular situation happens simultaneously until you choose which path to take. Titor describes different "Worldlines" in his posts. A Worldline is a path of historical time, through spacetime.

Imagine you have a moment where you have to decide to save yourself or save someone else's life. Let's say for example that you save yourself. The other person COULD have potentially been the person who would have eventually cured cancer.

That "Worldline" that you are existing in, will now be different from the Worldline in which you had chosen to save the other person, a result of following various paths through spacetime. These "Worldlines" happen all the time, everywhere, with virtually unlimited variations and outcomes. An example of this in a smaller degree is the Butterfly Effect, however this is the Butterfly Effect across multiple timelines.

Titor explains that his "Worldline" may not be "Exactly" what ours is (or was when he was posting), but if most things were at least similar... similar outcomes would happen. Not 100% accurate, as his "History" may or may not be exactly what ours is, today.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

I've been reading John Titor's posts here and there over the past 6 or 7 years. Just to see how closely his "Predictions" were to actual events. It's quite accurate in hindsight.

If by "quite accurate" you mean totally way off fucking base, then sure.

Ther shouldn't be any "predictions" he SHOULD know everything that happens. You'd think when he arrived in 2001 he'd be nice enough to warns us about 9-11. I'm sure even in 2036 that date is still important.

[Si]

Originally Posted by voodoo

quantum physics as well as some studies on alignment theory aka string theory indicate that every possible outcome of a particular situation happens simultaneously until you choose which path to take. Titor describes different "worldlines" in his posts. A worldline is a path of historical time, through spacetime.

Imagine you have a moment where you have to decide to save yourself or save someone else's life. Let's say for example that you save yourself. The other person could have potentially been the person who would have eventually cured cancer.

That "worldline" that you are existing in, will now be different from the worldline in which you had chosen to save the other person, a result of following various paths through spacetime. These "worldlines" happen all the time, everywhere, with virtually unlimited variations and outcomes. An example of this in a smaller degree is the butterfly effect, however this is the butterfly effect across multiple timelines.

Titor explains that his "worldline" may not be "exactly" what ours is (or was when he was posting), but if most things were at least similar... Similar outcomes would happen. Not 100% accurate, as his "history" may or may not be exactly what ours is, today.

wtf>>>>>> ?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Juilan

The Titor story was just that, a story, but according to Einstein and quantum theory, time travel could be possible.

Not for humans.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

time travel = not possible according to physics

A time traveler would without a doubt mention the attacks on the twin towers which happened just 8 months after his post.

You do realize that almost all laws of physics seem to break down when we reach the quantum right? We merely know how shit works on a macro and micro level, sometimes not even that, and not what is really happening down at the quantum level which now appears to have a level even smaller than the quark.

Saying something isn't possible is ridiculous?

Kurt Vonnegut wrote about I nasty little thing called Ice-9 in his book Cats Cradle. It would seem that should be impossible. But guess what? It looks like it might be an actuality. The particle is called a stranglet and the new LHC(Large Hadron Collider) may possibly create one.

100 years ago, harnessing energy from the sun was impossible. You see, nothing ever really is. It merely lacks the time of its eventuality.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Not for humans.

Oh really? They are ALREADY teleporting large molecules (boron was the last I heard) over long distances through "Quantum Teleportation."

Never say never...

[Yngwie]

the real question is, assuming this guy is what he says he is (lets just go with it) how the fuck would he come back to the future (his time) if the "machine" that helped him travel through time is not with him at all times? So, realistically, he'd be stuck in the year he went back to.

This isn't like Bill and Ted's phone booth or Back to the future's car. Ya, those are just movies, but wherever they went the "machine" that brought them there was there with them.

[Yngwie]

Originally Posted by Darkland

Oh really? They are ALREADY teleporting large molecules (boron was the last I heard) over long distances through "Quantum Teleportation."

Never say never...

anything is possible, but

Originally Posted by Yngwie

the real question is, assuming this guy is what he says he is (lets just go with it) how the fuck would he come back to the future (his time) if the "machine" that helped him travel through time is not with him at all times? So, realistically, he'd be stuck in the year he went back to.

This isn't like Bill and Ted's phone booth or Back to the future's car. Ya, those are just movies, but wherever they went the "machine" that brought them there was there with them.

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by Yngwie

the real question is, assuming this guy is what he says he is (lets just go with it) how the fuck would he come back to the future (his time) if the "machine" that helped him travel through time is not with him at all times? So, realistically, he'd be stuck in the year he went back to.

This isn't like Bill and Ted's phone booth or Back to the future's car. Ya, those are just movies, but wherever they went the "machine" that brought them there was there with them.

Actually it is exactly like the Back to the Future car, minus a flux capacitor. The device is attached to a car. You should read the posts he made before asking questions. He states that time travel is about warping gravity fields with singularities or something that the LHC produces within a year of 2008. Says the device built around it weights some 500lbs and you can't just carry it with you, so they attached it to a reinforced car, as the seats were comfortable.

[ExLust]

Wow interesting.

[Yngwie]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

Actually it is exactly like the Back to the Future car, minus a flux capacitor. The device is attached to a car. You should read the posts he made before asking questions. He states that time travel is about warping gravity fields with singularities or something that the LHC produces within a year of 2008. Says the device built around it weights some 500lbs and you can't just carry it with you, so they attached it to a reinforced car, as the seats were comfortable.

had I read that I guess I wouldn't have asked what I did. I'll have to check out the link in the first post and read some of what's there.

[mozadek]

John Titor is a hoax.

[Yngwie]

Originally Posted by mozadek

John Titor is a hoax.

I don't doubt that, but who knows and it doesn't affect me in any way so it's no big deal.

[Furious_Male]

Some people are actively seeking his true identity to this day. This guy has some interesting theories.

hoaxhunter.blogspot.com

[eroticsexxx]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

He should be able to tell us things that will happen 100% exactly like he said it would

Not really...

The very act of telling "present day" persons what will happen in the future would indeed modify the connecting social equations in ways which would create an alternate outcome.

The resulting ripple effect could indeed nullify the very events that created time travel in the first place.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

If you're genuinely interested in Titor, goto totse.com and dg through the "Science of the Damned" board. Titor was a big topic of discussion there for a long time. Also a great forum for pretty much any oddball subjects..

[Brujah]

Interesting read on a theory from Tipler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Point_(Tipler)

[Iron Fist]

Let me know when we achieve ludicrous-speed...

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Interesting read on a theory from Tipler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Point_(Tipler)

Interesting indeed, but my problem with this theory is the suppostion that the universe will end in a "Big Crunch" which has yet to have any solid proof any such event will ever happen.

We don't even know all there is about our own solar system, let alone our galaxy, neighboring galaxies and the universe at large. Among scientists there are 3 agreed possible outcomes of the universes ultimate fate.

In regarding the 3 below one must consider that the universe already contains all the energy and matter that it ever will. No new energy or matter can be created.

1. That the universe truly is infinite and always will be. The current argument against this was lost years ago amongst the steady state advocates to the big bangers.

2. That the universe continues to expand at an exponential rate and continues to do so, stretching ever thinner, cooling down and eventually dying a chilly death.

3. That the universe expands to its explosive limit (depleted energy from the big bang) and it begins to contract upon itself back to the origin of singularity. Also know as the "Big Crunch", some scientists also believe that this is a repetitive event driven phenomenon. Meaning there have been multiple "Big Bangs" and "Big Crunches", driven by a singular event, with each successive expansion being smaller and smaller.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Darkland

Interesting indeed, but my problem with this theory is the suppostion that the universe will end in a "Big Crunch" which has yet to have any solid proof any such event will ever happen.

We don't even know all there is about our own solar system, let alone our galaxy, neighboring galaxies and the universe at large. Among scientists there are 3 agreed possible outcomes of the universes ultimate fate.

In regarding the 3 below one must consider that the universe already contains all the energy and matter that it ever will. No new energy or matter can be created.

1. That the universe truly is infinite and always will be. The current argument against this was lost years ago amongst the steady state advocates to the big bangers.

2. That the universe continues to expand at an exponential rate and continues to do so, stretching ever thinner, cooling down and eventually dying a chilly death.

3. That the universe expands to its explosive limit (depleted energy from the big bang) and it begins to contract upon itself back to the origin of singularity. Also know as the "Big Crunch", some scientists also believe that this is a repetitive event driven phenomenon. Meaning there have been multiple "Big Bangs" and "Big Crunches", driven by a singular event, with each successive expansion being smaller and smaller.

i don't see the mention of a multiverse here. there's a lot of study now going towards the possibility that in a multiverse, individual universes can split and have offspring baby universes. in a way somewhat similiar to single celled organism splitting and giving new life. as opposed to our singular universe just ever-expanding. that our universe and the big bang may just be the offspring of an older universe, and that we may have in fact sprung life into several other baby universes ourselves. they also say that our universes may be connected by a type of umbilical cord by means of the black holes and that on the other side of a black hole may in fact be a white hole, from which all that supposedly disappeared matter springs forth from. this could explain the instance of the big bang. a massive flush of matter being thrust forth into another dimension, creating a new universe. "big bangs" could be continuously happening.

apparently they say that gravity can cross dimensions. when looking at dark matter, which has a gravitational pull yet doesn't appear to be composed of any particular matter itself, some physicists believe this may in fact be a gravitational pull crossing dimensions from another universe. in a few years there's supposed to be a new satellite being launched which will be listening for shockwaves from the big bang or some shit along that lines. they're hoping that they may just be able to prove the existence of the multiverse by listening for these other big bang occurrences.

it's all pretty trippy shit really. quantum physics is ridiculous. strange beyond belief. read up on the double-slit experiment to shat some bricks...

[who]

"John Titor" is some person's way of showing just how much more intelligent they is than you.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

Titor explains that his "Worldline" may not be "Exactly" what ours is (or was when he was posting), but if most things were at least similar... similar outcomes would happen. Not 100% accurate, as his "History" may or may not be exactly what ours is, today.

Well, guess why he uses this theory instead of other theories.

Seriously, i understand that the time travel subject is interesting but stop giving this idiot attention. He's simply a scammer.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Darkland

Interesting indeed, but my problem with this theory is the suppostion that the universe will end in a "Big Crunch" which has yet to have any solid proof any such event will ever happen.

We don't even know all there is about our own solar system, let alone our galaxy, neighboring galaxies and the universe at large. Among scientists there are 3 agreed possible outcomes of the universes ultimate fate.

In regarding the 3 below one must consider that the universe already contains all the energy and matter that it ever will. No new energy or matter can be created.

1. That the universe truly is infinite and always will be. The current argument against this was lost years ago amongst the steady state advocates to the big bangers.

2. That the universe continues to expand at an exponential rate and continues to do so, stretching ever thinner, cooling down and eventually dying a chilly death.

3. That the universe expands to its explosive limit (depleted energy from the big bang) and it begins to contract upon itself back to the origin of singularity. Also know as the "Big Crunch", some scientists also believe that this is a repetitive event driven phenomenon. Meaning there have been multiple "Big Bangs" and "Big Crunches", driven by a singular event, with each successive expansion being smaller and smaller.

I just had a big bang in my pants.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Well, guess why he uses this theory instead of other theories.

Seriously, i understand that the time travel subject is interesting but stop giving this idiot attention. He's simply a scammer.

Actually he is far from an idiot. Let's just call him a scammer instead.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

i don't see the mention of a multiverse here. there's a lot of study now going towards the possibility that in a multiverse, individual universes can split and have offspring baby universes. in a way somewhat similiar to single celled organism splitting and giving new life. as opposed to our singular universe just ever-expanding. that our universe and the big bang may just be the offspring of an older universe, and that we may have in fact sprung life into several other baby universes ourselves. they also say that our universes may be connected by a type of umbilical cord by means of the black holes and that on the other side of a black hole may in fact be a white hole, from which all that supposedly disappeared matter springs forth from. this could explain the instance of the big bang. a massive flush of matter being thrust forth into another dimension, creating a new universe. "big bangs" could be continuously happening.

This area of research is fairly new and emerging which is why I didn't bring it up. There is still too little research to count it yet but I am sure that will change. Part of what you are talking about is an actual collision of multiverses in which the area of contact or what we know in our universe as the singularity, created an explosion of matter from both universes to create a new one.

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

apparently they say that gravity can cross dimensions. when looking at dark matter, which has a gravitational pull yet doesn't appear to be composed of any particular matter itself, some physicists believe this may in fact be a gravitational pull crossing dimensions from another universe.

Gravition is a strange beast... As much as we like to think we know ALL about it, nothing could be further from the truth. We have recorded near events that behave in a way not explainable by present day gravitational theorem's. Unknown forces acting upon space, time and matter in an atypical fashion.

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

in a few years there's supposed to be a new satellite being launched which will be listening for shockwaves from the big bang or some shit along that lines. they're hoping that they may just be able to prove the existence of the multiverse by listening for these other big bang occurrences.

We are already able to detect this to a degree although there is much interference in such readings on earth. It is called CBR (Cosmic Background Radiation) or CMBR (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation). I am looking forward to this launch as once in space they will get much better readings and start getting more data on the true age of the universe.

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

it's all pretty trippy shit really. quantum physics is ridiculous. strange beyond belief. read up on the double-slit experiment to shat some bricks...

I am a huge science geek as you might be able to tell and I am well studied in quantum physics and phenomena. But it DOES give new meaning to the saying, "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe it, does it make a noise?" Never underestimate the power of observation or the lack of. See Schrödinger's cat...

[GatorB]

I have a time machine. Unfortunately it only moves forwards and at normal speed.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Darkland

I am a huge science geek as you might be able to tell and I am well studied in quantum physics and phenomena. But it DOES give new meaning to the saying, "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to observe it, does it make a noise?" Never underestimate the power of observation or the lack of. See Schrödinger's cat...

Schrodinger's cat was an interesting one. The idea that all possible outcomes are coexistent until observed is pretty trippy to me. Untilt he box is open the cat is both dead and not dead. Until someone is there to observe the falling tree, it both does and does not make a sound. Odd, but when you observe something like the double slit experiment it really makes you start to think. You're obviously more well versed in physics than I am. I am just a dabbler in many things. Jack of all trades, master of none I guess. It is something I've been reading more and more on though. Makes me wish i took physics in highschool instead of chem...