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Old 02-18-2009, 11:21 AM   #1
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Is there life after death?

part of me wants to say yes...I cannot imagine not existing.

But then the common sense drops in and I kick myself for thinking such bullshit.

So what is the consensus on the board? Life after death? Or dust to dust?



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Is there any evidence of life after death? I have not seen anything credible.

If you live your life expecting an afterlife, you may be very disappointed.
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The amount of people that die daily, you'd think that some of them would try and communicate with the living to let us know that there is. So the question becomes, if there is life after death, is it possible to communicate with the living.

When I die, I will make it my life (deaths) work to try and let people know that there is life after death. I promise
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:38 AM   #7
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They way I look at it is like this. If there is great, if there isn't oh well I guess it would be like you were never born. Just no longer.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:40 AM   #8
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Have died and I am still alive. So yes I supose so.
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i think it becomes more of a question of is there consciousness after death. not a life as we know it certainly.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:02 PM   #11
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Is there any evidence of life after death? I have not seen anything credible.

If you live your life expecting an afterlife, you may be very disappointed.
this statment totally conflicts with itself, if theres nothing then it will be like before you were born...nothing. lol you wont care because the emotions required for caring wont exist either. you, wont be you. you wont exist and everything that you think makes up you wont exist either. so who cares? live while you can then die
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Is there any evidence of life after death? I have not seen anything credible.

If you live your life expecting an afterlife, you may be very disappointed.
If there is no afterlife then there would be no continuance of consciousness by which to GET dissappointed.
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as much as we would all like to live forever, we cannot. Nor can the trees, or the leaves.

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Think of the 6 billion years that preceeded your birth and your recollection of it all.

I would imagine that's what it's like after you die.
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I think that supernovas that collapse or implode become stars so dense and heavy that it tears the space/time plane and as such they go through a hole in space thus allowing us to dive into the event horizon of a blackhole and travel to a far distant part of the space ...


Yeah... the question above is as philosophical as the off topic thought I just wrote... but technically .. there is no consciousness or life after death... it is scientifically impossible (or at least it hasn't yet been proven) ... and as far as religion if yer christian u might know the bible says:

Eccl. 9:5 - For the living know that they shall die but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

And as far as I know Jesus was against mediums and all that sort of hocus pocus ...but then again... the bible does talk about "resurrection"... the creation of man from dust and "a breath of life"...and a special effects filled apocalypse ....

My conclusion... since there is no way to prove or test life or there we say "consciousness" after death.. u can believe whatever u want because this is a very philosophical topic
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maybe , you just go back to where you came from in the first place .
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So, the universe starts up with a huge pool of atoms with no purpose, no plan, no agenda..
Atoms can, just like balls on a pool table, react to the movement of the other balls..

So, all this atom pushing to other atoms follwing a strict set of rules.. just like when a billard ball hits another billard ball, some how evolved into human beings talking about the very same universe which created them

"But it's evolution that created man"..

Yes, but this whole atom-pushing-atom thing somehow created evolution.. isn't that bizzare?
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So, the universe starts up with a huge pool of atoms with no purpose, no plan, no agenda..
Atoms can, just like balls on a pool table, react to the movement of the other balls..

So, all this atom pushing to other atoms follwing a strict set of rules.. just like when a billard ball hits another billard ball, some how evolved into human beings talking about the very same universe which created them

"But it's evolution that created man"..

Yes, but this whole atom-pushing-atom thing somehow created evolution.. isn't that bizzare?
of course its bizarre, people just need to realise there are somethings we cant fully understand, our minds only have so much of a capacity. and if you start taking what you dont understand, and create theories on the subject...then eventually those theories become beleifs and those beleifs become religion.

the truth is that no one can know for sure wtf happens when you die because your not dead, and as for those people who apparently died and went to a place then came back, well yeah ti could have been a spiritual plane, or it could be a hallucination created from the strange combinations of chemicals that your brain produces under such strange circumstances...or it could be something no one has yet thought of.

in the end, personally, ive come to realise that this isnt something that you can find answers to by speculating and idea sharing on webmaster forums. its something that no one has reached and if you speculate, than thats all it is, speculation.
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Is there any evidence of life after death? I have not seen anything credible.

If you live your life expecting an afterlife, you may be very disappointed.
i agree, once your dead its over you are done.
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I would like to think so (though I'm not sure) as there are some people who've been in my life that I would dearly love to see again.
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Not only your energy but your mass, your atoms, your water and everything else that makes us.
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Yes..... It is the First Law of Thermodynamics... Energy and matter can neither be created nor destroyed but merely changed.
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I would like to think there is a Heaven. A place where your soul goes and you get to see the people that you love that died before you. I hope it exists. I would like to see my sister again.
you have probably already seen her again, you are just not in tune to notice it
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The real question is...
DO you want there to be an after life?

The whole eternity thing scares me. Surely being exhistant for all eternity is some sort of torterous damnation isnt it?

So I am kind hoping not or at the least be able to turn myself off when I wish.

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you been posting some deep shit lately Ray.
I think it has to do with being six months away from turning 40. It's really strange but I woke up one night and said "Holy shit...I'm going to be 40!" . I thought of myself as a kid for Christ sakes and then all of a sudden WHAM! I am the same age as I remember my father being. It makes you consider your mortality.

That and being I have an IQ in the 145-154 range...It's actually a curse, not a benefit. you can't stop thinking about shit like this. Analyzing everything on multiple vertical levels and the thoughts never stop.

Time for a xanax!
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I think it has to do with being six months away from turning 40. It's really strange but I woke up one night and said "Holy shit...I'm going to be 40!" . I thought of myself as a kid for Christ sakes and then all of a sudden WHAM! I am the same age as I remember my father being. It makes you consider your mortality.

That and being I have an IQ in the 145-154 range...It's actually a curse, not a benefit. you can't stop thinking about shit like this. Analyzing everything on multiple vertical levels and the thoughts never stop.

Time for a xanax!
You do not need Xanax
It's perfectly normal to be wary of death. Ya know though...
Ya not going to die today, and who knows when. Your best hope is to die when you are ready. Thats the absolute best you can aim for.

That will be the best gift you could ever possibly give yourself.
Be ready, be happy with yourself, count things you have done for those around you and once ya get to that point...
You will want to die, as you will learn you have no business being alive.

I consider myself in the later bracket. I have no business being alive so any time is fine with me.

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You do not need Xanax
It's perfectly normal to be wary of death. Ya know though...
Ya not going to die today, and who knows when. Your best hope is to die when you are ready. Thats the absolute best you can aim for.

That will be the best gift you could ever possibly give yourself.
Be ready, be happy with yourself, count things you have done for those around you and once ya get to that point...
You will want to die, as you will learn you have no business being alive.
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Well stated
THanks.

I wrestled with probably the same thoughts as you, I goto admit I am fearful sometimes don't get me wrong but on the other hand I got tired of caring about it. I was rather consumed about the prospect of having no choice.

I am the kind of guy that wants choices, but this is a case where there is not one or maybe there is. Thats the mother fucker right there. You REALLY want to live forever? I really doubt it!

My grandmother basically put it to me like the above. She told me, "By the time you die you better just hope you are ready.", and its strange my grandmother told me that when I was 6 and terrified as the actual realisation hit me and now she is dying of cancer ( am not jesting ) and she say's she is ready almost 33 years later to the near present. She done everything she could with her life and had a good time.

I believe her when she says it.

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THanks.

I wrestled with probably the same thoughts as you, I goto admit I am fearful sometimes don't get me wrong but on the other hand I got tired of caring about it. I was rather consumed about the prospect of having no choice.

I am the kind of guy that wants choices, but this is a case where there is not one or maybe there is. Thats the mother fucker right there. You REALLY want to live forever? I really doubt it!

My grandmother basically put it to me like the above. She told me, "By the time you die you better just hope you are ready.", and its strange my grandmother told me that when I was 6 and terrified as the actual realisation hit me and now she is dying of cancer ( am not jesting ) and she say's she is ready almost 33 years later to the near present. She done everything she could with her life and had a good time.

I believe her when she says it.

First off, sorry about your grandmother. It's never easy to see someone dying, and I feel for you.

Second, it's an interesting concept, mortality, or immortality. Living forever could probably be agony. Watching people you love come and go. I think it is the actual passage of time in general that makes me sad, not the end itself. Time is a bitch.
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maybe , you just go back to where you came from in the first place .
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Oh man.

Awright. Time. Time is the bitch.

The Perception of time, and time itself and its passing is definatly no different than being able to percieve light from dark.
If we can percieve time and I think we all do in our own way it leads me to believe there is indeed an afterlife. Time is seemingly infinate, The dimension we exhist in is seemingly infinate. Time and Space being infinite then all possibilities are true.

So my worse fear is affirmed. There is an afterlife if you want an absolute answer to what I think on the matter. Because even if we die, odd's are the possibility of life after this one of some sort hold's true in absolute logic. The improbability of it all makes absolute probabilities occur.

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Maybe a good question also is..
Not Where Are We? But When Are We? Have I done this all before fuck it certainly seems like it!

If scientific theories hold true then the prospect of reincarnation is true.
You can doubt Scientific theory and accept theological theory as there being a an afterlife and vice Versa, both come to the same conclusion.

YOU EITHER BELEIVE:
A: In everything being constant and infinate by scientific theory, will point to yes there is life after death as all possibilities are not impossible in infinite time and the matter within the dimension forever repeating constantly.

B: The easy way out, Accept Theological explanations where it is whole heartedly assumed there is an afterlife at the basis of the belief.


There really is no other logical conclusion whether you believe in god or not but those fucking improbabilities certainly say there is.

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I'd like to believe that there is life after death or something beyond, but the reality is we are hard wired organic matter, when the system shuts down, it's pretty much lights out and our bodies decay. Just another body breaking down and feeding the cycle of life and evolution of the planet.
There really is nothing to fear about death other then the matter in which we die, we all hope it is peacefully.
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i don't believe there is still life, but i think it exist if you believe
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