The man behind 4chan, broke and living with his mom - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 02-18-2009, 12:39 PM

100 broke men living with their moms

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-18-2009, 12:42 PM

Rich Dad Poor Dad. Its a good book. Read it.

Basically some people are not raised to be aware of the value of money.

Libertine · 02-18-2009, 12:47 PM

Ignoring the rest of your mindless banter...

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

So according to the article moot Does not know / has not been able to make money off the site how does that equate to your magic know-all of him "not WANTING to make money off the site"

He has chosen not to reply to potential advertisers from both mainstream and adult sites quite a few times.

If you want to make money, you respond to those offering you money. You definitely don't completely ignore people who express interest.

If you're not willing to put effort into something, you don't actually want it. Because if you actually want something, you put in some effort.

I am not talking about the "I want to win the lottery" kind of wanting. I'm talking about the "I want to lose weight, therefore I eat healthy food and work out regularly" kind of wanting.

How are you not getting this?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-18-2009, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Ignoring the rest of your mindless banter...

He has chosen not to reply to potential advertisers from both mainstream and adult sites quite a few times.

If you want to make money, you respond to those offering you money. You definitely don't completely ignore people who express interest.

If you're not willing to put effort into something, you don't actually want it. Because if you actually want something, you put in some effort.

I am not talking about the "I want to win the lottery" kind of wanting. I'm talking about the "I want to lose weight, therefore I eat healthy food and work out regularly" kind of wanting.

How are you not getting this?

There is no excuse to not be able to capitalise on 1M unique visitors a day.
None, Zewro, Nada.
Sorry. The guy is an idiot more so than myself.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-18-2009, 02:14 PM

ask anyone who's ever spammed 4chan if it's unprofitable

he's just a) too stupid to monetize b) to stupid to want to monetize it

alias · 02-18-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

IDK

anyway, what if he just posted a text on the bottom: 'my paypal is [email protected]'

you think PP would have a problem with it? it's not like he would be soliciting for payments/donations

Have you checked out the site, it doesn't seem like paypal material. My guess is that the account would be canceled very quickly for multiple infractions.

polish_aristocrat · 02-18-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Rich Dad Poor Dad. Its a good book. Read it.

Basically some people are not raised to be aware of the value of money.

you're talking about losers who have no control over their spending etc probably

this kid just doesn't want to make money, just like some underground bands don't want to go mainstream.. not that I admire him etc though, I don't know 4chan, spent there 3 mins or so

polish_aristocrat · 02-18-2009, 02:23 PM

the guy who owns some premium domains, including sexy.com had blank pages on them for years because he was mad at the world that the Dot Com Boom ended in 1999 or so LOL

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 02-18-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

the guy who owns some premium domains, including sexy.com had blank pages on them for years because he was mad at the world that the Dot Com Boom ended in 1999 or so LOL

you'd think he'd at least have the drive to cover his bandwidth expenses. as opposed to moving back in with mom and racking up $20k on his creditcards...

DarkJedi · 02-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Rich Dad Poor Dad. Its a good book. Read it.

Basically some people are not raised to be aware of the value of money.

Is that why you are broke as fuck?

Loki · 02-18-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

Ignoring the rest of your mindless banter...

He has chosen not to reply to potential advertisers from both mainstream and adult sites quite a few times.

If you want to make money, you respond to those offering you money. You definitely don't completely ignore people who express interest.

If you're not willing to put effort into something, you don't actually want it. Because if you actually want something, you put in some effort.

I am not talking about the "I want to win the lottery" kind of wanting. I'm talking about the "I want to lose weight, therefore I eat healthy food and work out regularly" kind of wanting.

How are you not getting this?

I'll just leave it at this, I'm tired of wasting my time responding to you when you CLEARLY can not comprehend the words I'm writing.

Going by JUST the Article ALONE the claim is "I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE MONEY / I NEVER COULD MAKE MONEY" I quote that and you just go back to him "not wanting to make money"

and unless you yourself are moot you do not know what he knows or doesn't know, and therefore can not say for certain what exactly the boy wants/ does not want.

I'm done, I've made my points, even if their ignored or not understood

-Loki-

Max - RiotDesign · 02-18-2009, 05:41 PM

From a more recent interview:

Quote:

Q: How much does it cost to run the site?

A: About $6,000 per month. That's actually not too bad for a site that is all rich media and has 300 million pageviews. I don't have any overhead past that. I don't have any employees. I don't have an office.

Q: Are you making your money back?

A: Just barely. We're trying to convince advertisers that our community is worth their ad dollars. That's been a really uphill battle because of our content. Advertisers will Google us and see that we're huge, but they'll also see all these threats and hacks. It scares them away. Overcoming that stigma is difficult.

http://www.fimoculous.com/archive/post-5738.cfm

It seems he is trying to monetize 4chan after all, at least according to him.

pocketkangaroo · 02-18-2009, 06:08 PM

All he has to do is sell text link ads on some of his major categories. Guarantee to pull $10k a month. Sell 10 hardlinks in each of these categories at $100-$200/month.

- Travel
- Health and Fitness
- Sports
- Tech
- Music
- Auto
- TV and Film
- Food

Some of those categories are some of the biggest in the text link market. Just opening up the sports section to hardlinks would find probably 100 ticket brokers and handicapping sites lining up to buy.

Libertine · 02-18-2009, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

I'll just leave it at this, I'm tired of wasting my time responding to you when you CLEARLY can not comprehend the words I'm writing.

Going by JUST the Article ALONE the claim is "I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE MONEY / I NEVER COULD MAKE MONEY" I quote that and you just go back to him "not wanting to make money"

and unless you yourself are moot you do not know what he knows or doesn't know, and therefore can not say for certain what exactly the boy wants/ does not want.

I'm done, I've made my points, even if their ignored or not understood

-Loki-

Why would I go by just the article alone when I have actually tried to buy advertising on 4chan a bunch of times, with varying levels of success in even getting replies?

Blazed · 02-25-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

very interesting article only in that it reveals who is behind 4chan - a very uninteresting quiet 21 year old. the kid needs to find himself a partner who is more entrepeurnially minded than him - there has to be a way to make money off that site. all those 4chan surfers go to movies, play video games, eat fast food, etc - he's got to sell some major corporations on that and sell some adspace.

same with facebook - i look at the crappy ads on it - Hollywood movie studios and record companies, beverage makers, etc should be paying millions for prime facebook advertising space. all i see on facebook are some crappy Google type ads on the side - that probably have a microscopic click rate.

Facebook ads makes 100's of millions a year, it works much like google adwords. Why sell ads to a few high profile companies and if one drops you you're in the shit when you can sell to thousands of advertisers?

Janak · 02-25-2009, 04:34 AM

Currently running AFF and sleepcreep.com.

BadGirlSophie · 02-26-2009, 07:59 AM

lol @ porn ads on 4chan. Some do buy actually, and just consider that as their donation to 4chan. Run troll like donation drives on /b/ to click and sign up for porn ads, but I'm sure some do or get tricked into doing it.

What 4chan needs to advertising is hosting. 4chan is a bunch of computer science nerds. Hosting is relevant to them and something they can support. The hosting company will just host the site for free for the advertisement. Moot doesn't have anymore bills and he can focus on getting a job and paying his debt or maybe sell more adspace.

To those to don't pay attention to 4chan... I'm sorry. There's more to it than just /b/, and if you're on at the right time, some real brilliance can come out of /b/. This community is a growing force in the media and culture. They should be recognized.

Libertine · 02-26-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BadGirlSophie

lol @ porn ads on 4chan. Some do buy actually, and just consider that as their donation to 4chan. Run troll like donation drives on /b/ to click and sign up for porn ads, but I'm sure some do or get tricked into doing it.

What 4chan needs to advertising is hosting. 4chan is a bunch of computer science nerds. Hosting is relevant to them and something they can support. The hosting company will just host the site for free for the advertisement. Moot doesn't have anymore bills and he can focus on getting a job and paying his debt or maybe sell more adspace.

To those to don't pay attention to 4chan... I'm sorry. There's more to it than just /b/, and if you're on at the right time, some real brilliance can come out of /b/. This community is a growing force in the media and culture. They should be recognized.

Good point. Porn definitely isn't the best thing to be advertising there. Everyone who visits that site knows about tubes, torrents, rapidshare, etc.

Hosting is a decent alternative, but things like dating, dating guides, sex toys, etc. could also work. And of course mail order brides - conversions are low, but payouts are awesome

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	ask anyone who's ever spammed 4chan if it's unprofitable he's just a) too stupid to monetize b) to stupid to want to monetize it Last edited by Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life; 02-18-2009 at 02:18 PM..

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polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	the guy who owns some premium domains, including sexy.com had blank pages on them for years because he was mad at the world that the Dot Com Boom ended in 1999 or so LOL __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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Janak Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 483	Currently running AFF and sleepcreep.com. __________________ My stats here.

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DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	100 broke men living with their moms

02-18-2009, 06:08 PM	#113
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	All he has to do is sell text link ads on some of his major categories. Guarantee to pull $10k a month. Sell 10 hardlinks in each of these categories at $100-$200/month. - Travel - Health and Fitness - Sports - Tech - Music - Auto - TV and Film - Food Some of those categories are some of the biggest in the text link market. Just opening up the sports section to hardlinks would find probably 100 ticket brokers and handicapping sites lining up to buy.

02-26-2009, 07:59 AM	#117
BadGirlSophie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 157	lol @ porn ads on 4chan. Some do buy actually, and just consider that as their donation to 4chan. Run troll like donation drives on /b/ to click and sign up for porn ads, but I'm sure some do or get tricked into doing it. What 4chan needs to advertising is hosting. 4chan is a bunch of computer science nerds. Hosting is relevant to them and something they can support. The hosting company will just host the site for free for the advertisement. Moot doesn't have anymore bills and he can focus on getting a job and paying his debt or maybe sell more adspace. To those to don't pay attention to 4chan... I'm sorry. There's more to it than just /b/, and if you're on at the right time, some real brilliance can come out of /b/. This community is a growing force in the media and culture. They should be recognized.