Also, he needs to figure out a way to filter ads from board to board, not just between SFW and NSFW. I tend to use the hentai/yaoi/yuri boards to help ID stuff from time to time if I want to make a gallery but don't know the characters, or just to get an idea of what people are looking for in the niche, and already I've seen people complaining about inappropriate advertising on the niche boards (for ex, straight porn on the yaoi board).

i am refusing to make money today.

i think gfy should ban all existing members for saying the same thing in every thread like clockwork.

moot can put up a simple PayPal donation button and make bank.

most of the tards would donate (me including)

also, it's not just about /b/ - there is a ton of other interesting boards on that site (travel, nature and so on)

awwww did someone piss in your cornflakes :1orglaugh

how in the hell do I not know what I'm talking about in regards to your "out of your ass post"

4chan is losing money because moot doesn't want to make money. It's that simple. Just try asking about buying ad spots, and see what happens...

you pretty much said, "Moot doesn't sell ads" "ask to buy an ad and you won't get it" etc etc, ALL I said was that was wrong, and there are ads on /b I give two shits WHEN the ads started, stopped, blew up etc, that is not the point, the point is, YOU are NOT Moot, and can not sit there and dictate WHAT moot thinks.

and I'm the newfag LMAO

-Loki-

:2 cents:

That's what I was thinking. Those subforums are all targeted and aren't being trolled much at all. He could easily make a couple grand a week selling ads on those subforums.

Considering you can't even get the name of /b/ right, yes, you are the newfag.

My point was that the reason moot is broke and in debt is that he's never taken advertising seriously, and has mostly neglected it over the past few years. Currently, there are ads because he is rather desperate for money. In the past, he only rarely replied to inquiries about advertising, and was extremely picky about which ads got posted.

Unlike you, I've actually spoken with him about advertising several times over the past few years, and one thing became crystal clear: he is completely uninterested in business. He wants to be an internet celeb. If he wanted to make money, he'd be rich now. Instead, he's in debt.

Since you're apparently slightly retarded, let me spell it out for you. When I say he "doesn't want to make money", I mean his current lack of money results from constant negligence with regards to the financial side of his site.

I didn't pretty much say he doesn't sell ads. I said to try emailing the advertising email address and seeing for yourself what happens. Later on in the thread, I even detailed exactly what it is that happens: a large chance of not getting any responses, price lists that can change over the course of a single day, and completely bizarre behavior. Basically, a lack of concern with regards to making money.

Now stfu.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I thought Pay Pal already closed down an attempt by 4chan and said they want no association.

Not surprised, site was full of pedo crap for years, cleaned up a bit now.

Look I have my own little language, I can laugh at somebody being shot or a drawing of a baby getting raped I am so cool!!

Truth is 4chan is no different than a gang of 14 year olds. Following the leader, laughing to improve ones rep....

Anybody over 20 something into this needs to get a life, honestly...

Rarely do I let anyone (especially someone I don't even know) get under my skin, however for you I guess I'll make the exception, why I don't know really...

not that it has any baring on this little pissing match, but I am NOT a newfag, oldfag, samefag etc etc, I've 'lurked' and posted on many of those boards for quite a few years now, I've always tried to keep up on the various fads (or memes) that have been launched by the community over there.

I remember very well the on again / off again ads over this same time period, and the adult ones have always seemed POINTLESS to me, (almost as pointless as putting paysite ads on tubesites imho)

Going by the WP Article ALONE, and nothing else, moot claims he never KNEW how to / or was able to monetize that site, either people did NOT want to advertise on there (mainstream companies mainly) and the people who DID want to advertise (US, for lack of a better term) he felt it just would not work out for the better of the site....

my :2 cents:

I can not, nor will I speak for Wegcash for example (they have banners on the site now) but how profitable is it for them to have a bunch of people auto clicking on their ads, and NEVER spending dime one? THAT is the common consensus amongst the most vocal there, IE "I'll set up a script to send the ads X amount of clicks per day, that will help out" I've seen COUNTLESS posts just like that over the past few days alone since the 5 page article came out, AND over the past month or so since the porn ads came back to the top and bottom of the pages.

Now, MAYBE the advertisers are not aware of this, but I would bet dollars to donuts that moot and mods ARE aware of this fact, so they would not be very very quick to flood the site with porn ads, since (A) they know their posters won't click legitimately and (B) the one's who will click will overclick, use proxies, and or scripts THUS creating a huge amount of bullshit traffic and prolly pissed off advertisers either pulling out or demanding their money back.

So according to the article moot Does not know / has not been able to make money off the site how does that equate to your magic know-all of him "not WANTING to make money off the site"

Your so up on the site, you seem to have a direct line with the creator, how would YOU make money off a board where the BULK of the posts are jailbait, cp, gore, memes, personal info, "/b/lackups", personal armys, copypasta, and last but not least battletoads?

Don't forget the national press (ALL NEGATIVE) regarding Scientology, Peta, hordes of people walking around with Guy Faux masks etc etc, and most recently the barrage of facebook hacks, cumdumster targeting, death threats, and the no cussing club website, and now.... OC3 "Operation Clown Car Cunt"

How exactly do you make money off the "Internet Hate Machine" as they have been so cutely dubbed?

Oh I forgot, it's not that it's a bit HARD to pull that off, moot just doesn't want too :1orglaugh

and as for me being retarded thanks, I wish, if I was retarded I could just live off the state and stop busting me ass to make a living :thumbsup

Oh and last but not least, EVEN on the site itself it's referred to as /b and /b/ but hey, good for you for picking a lack of / to determine my status and or mental capability :error

-Loki-

Your turn :1orglaugh

Forums are hard to monetize. I speak out of experience.

Shit happens :thumbsup:thumbsup

IDK

anyway, what if he just posted a text on the bottom: 'my paypal is [email protected]'

you think PP would have a problem with it? it's not like he would be soliciting for payments/donations

I think he should just blackmail others and sites. Failure to comply and he focuses and then releases anom at you.

He can be like the digital version of the hoards.

Well I'll preface this all by saying I don't know for sure, because I wasn't there and didn't see it with my own eyes.

I did however read in more than one place more than one time, and one of those places being 4chan, that there was once a Pay Pal donation link, but Pay Pal closed the account and told him to take a flying leap. I guess the reason being along the lines that they don't allow adult sites.

100 broke men living with their moms

:2 cents:

Rich Dad Poor Dad. Its a good book. Read it.

Basically some people are not raised to be aware of the value of money.

Ignoring the rest of your mindless banter...

He has chosen not to reply to potential advertisers from both mainstream and adult sites quite a few times.

If you want to make money, you respond to those offering you money. You definitely don't completely ignore people who express interest.

If you're not willing to put effort into something, you don't actually want it. Because if you actually want something, you put in some effort.

I am not talking about the "I want to win the lottery" kind of wanting. I'm talking about the "I want to lose weight, therefore I eat healthy food and work out regularly" kind of wanting.

How are you not getting this?

There is no excuse to not be able to capitalise on 1M unique visitors a day.
None, Zewro, Nada.
Sorry. The guy is an idiot more so than myself.

ask anyone who's ever spammed 4chan if it's unprofitable :2 cents:

he's just a) too stupid to monetize b) to stupid to want to monetize it

Have you checked out the site, it doesn't seem like paypal material. My guess is that the account would be canceled very quickly for multiple infractions. :2 cents:

you're talking about losers who have no control over their spending etc probably

this kid just doesn't want to make money, just like some underground bands don't want to go mainstream.. not that I admire him etc though, I don't know 4chan, spent there 3 mins or so

the guy who owns some premium domains, including sexy.com had blank pages on them for years because he was mad at the world that the Dot Com Boom ended in 1999 or so LOL

you'd think he'd at least have the drive to cover his bandwidth expenses. as opposed to moving back in with mom and racking up $20k on his creditcards...

Is that why you are broke as fuck?

I'll just leave it at this, I'm tired of wasting my time responding to you when you CLEARLY can not comprehend the words I'm writing.

Going by JUST the Article ALONE the claim is "I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE MONEY / I NEVER COULD MAKE MONEY" I quote that and you just go back to him "not wanting to make money"

and unless you yourself are moot you do not know what he knows or doesn't know, and therefore can not say for certain what exactly the boy wants/ does not want.

I'm done, I've made my points, even if their ignored or not understood

-Loki-

From a more recent interview:

http://www.fimoculous.com/archive/post-5738.cfm

It seems he is trying to monetize 4chan after all, at least according to him. :2 cents:

All he has to do is sell text link ads on some of his major categories. Guarantee to pull $10k a month. Sell 10 hardlinks in each of these categories at $100-$200/month.

- Travel
- Health and Fitness
- Sports
- Tech
- Music
- Auto
- TV and Film
- Food

Some of those categories are some of the biggest in the text link market. Just opening up the sports section to hardlinks would find probably 100 ticket brokers and handicapping sites lining up to buy.

Why would I go by just the article alone when I have actually tried to buy advertising on 4chan a bunch of times, with varying levels of success in even getting replies?

Facebook ads makes 100's of millions a year, it works much like google adwords. Why sell ads to a few high profile companies and if one drops you you're in the shit when you can sell to thousands of advertisers?

Currently running AFF and sleepcreep.com.

lol @ porn ads on 4chan. Some do buy actually, and just consider that as their donation to 4chan. Run troll like donation drives on /b/ to click and sign up for porn ads, but I'm sure some do or get tricked into doing it.

What 4chan needs to advertising is hosting. 4chan is a bunch of computer science nerds. Hosting is relevant to them and something they can support. The hosting company will just host the site for free for the advertisement. Moot doesn't have anymore bills and he can focus on getting a job and paying his debt or maybe sell more adspace.

To those to don't pay attention to 4chan... I'm sorry. There's more to it than just /b/, and if you're on at the right time, some real brilliance can come out of /b/. This community is a growing force in the media and culture. They should be recognized.

Good point. Porn definitely isn't the best thing to be advertising there. Everyone who visits that site knows about tubes, torrents, rapidshare, etc.

Hosting is a decent alternative, but things like dating, dating guides, sex toys, etc. could also work. And of course mail order brides - conversions are low, but payouts are awesome :)