you aint seen nothing yet..
http://girlfucksguy.com

nuff said.

Bait Bus is one of the sites I had a few good pages getting search engine traffic to.

:(

Very cool

You hit the point right on... Oxcash is being too caucky (sp?) and think they can make webmasters wait for them to take their time? Think again. I move fast in a market that's constantly changing, I won't subject myself to wait on Ox's schedule. So, Hooper's gonna get my Bangbus traffic, sure it won't convert as well since these surfers are looking for Bangbus, but tough luck to Oxcash. Their dumb move will be Hooper's profit.

Hooper> Thanks bro, it scared us more than anything!

WG

You like that uh?

epiccash.com :)

its my site labret..still like it?

I like it because it may be something that would sell really well. It's Pimpdogs site, check his sig.

I wouldn't know where to market this type of stuff. Where the fuck do you sell memberships labret?

I don't see shitloads of large beast and gay tgp's. Maybe I've been looking in the wrong areas. I'm too mainstream, but I'll definitely be putting the extreme bizzare fetishe programs to use in the near future.

I don't expect you to tell me either. I'll find a way anyhow!

This is about money, I could care less who runs it or if you like to do bad things to small animals.

I have only had a couple of people refuse to do business with me, or someone I know, because of stupid board crying.

Someone off this board refused to do business with a friend of mine because he made the mistake of telling the guy he knew me. How gay is that?

Although I dont trust you for shit with my information, so now I gotta signup with all bogus info. Someday soon.

lol
if you dont trust me, then dont use me. simple.

Currently Ox is reporting I sent them no traffic yesterday and today. Unless Google and Yahoo were down, this is virtually impossible since I have top 5 rankings for several relevant keywords.

Something is definitely wrong over there.

You dont see them as they dont exist. The largest gay tgps are only 40k to 60k, and there are only a few at that size.

There is no gay traffic.

What I am about to say is going to make alot of newbies cringe and exclaim heresy. Its not about how much traffic you have, its the quality of the traffic. I would take 50k gay over 300k straight anyday.

Gay traffic with the right program is like found money. You dont even have to work for it. But good luck getting gay traffic, I sure as hell am not going to tell you how to get it or where to find it.

Comments taken to heart. Thanks mate.

Interesting.

The look on that guys face is classic....... :1orglaugh

Labret where are you sending your gay traffic these days?

I have to admit losing Ox is hurting....

I am also getting no traffic stats, but over 3,000 tgp views for Real Butts just today. No gallery page is that bad.

so why pull them out???

If I don't pull out soon, then I will have all these server costs to pay when oxcash isn't even converting to sales or trials. So when they screwed with the stats system, it is time to move on.

i make more in a couple weeks then you do in a year. i've dealt with oxcash on a higher level (than affiliate) for years. i don't currently do any business with them now however.

the last 2 years i *did* biz with them -> this is what i've used to based my opinion of them on.

maybe they went to shit. i've not had dealings with them for about a year.

that is what my 'oxcash is solid' statment is based on.

:glugglug

How do you know what I make in a year? Or do you think Oxcash is the ONLY sponsor I use and hence the 60-80k is the amount I make per year? Please do not assume. But thanks for clarifying. But your statement that oxcash is solid does not tell me if they are currently "shaving" or having "problems" because you aren't using them right now. Isn't it?

no shit (about the past couple weeks of possible shaving). based on my prior experience, i said they are solid. do you have a fucking problem with that?

if oxcash is your only sponsor, i'd have to laugh. i don't use sponsors (except in very minimal circumstances).

I certainly do not have a "fucking problem" with anything. But you seem really anal rententive especially all i am asking is for a clarification. And flauting your wealth or how you make it doesn't impress me. I don't care. More power to you. My issue is with Oxcash right now. Thank you very much.

you're the one telling me you have an issue with those who make, '100 bucks per month'.

apparently you are very impressed with wealth. fucking hypocrite.

cheers whiner :glugglug

No one is a whiner. You seem to take pleasure in posting crap on any thread you want to piss on. Jesus christ. If you got something to say about Oxcash say it; otherwise keep your flames to yourself. Jesus Christ.

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You mean that wasn't Larry posting?

I demand an explanation!!! :)

i said exactly three words in this thread regarding oxcash:

'oxcash is solid'

you wrote a mini novel regarding your attitude (directed towards me) on your issues with those making 100 bucks a month via oxcash.

i also enjoyed how you chose to try to ignore the obvious hypocrisy i pointed out (condensed):

'if you make 100 bucks/month you are shit. but oh yeah, i don't care about wealth'

again, cheers :glugglug

i stopped sending traffic to bangbus about a week ago. All SE traffic and bad results. I left baitbus up hoping it would be different, but nothing.

I don't think they shave on purpose or something. I mean wtf,the pay a very small %, they already made many many million dollars in small period of time, why would they want to sink the boat?

I have seen many large companies after certain upgrades to fuck things, adult and mainstream companies and oxcash so far has done several bad system upgrades. Something that works don't change it as they say..... On the other hand the "everything works fine" is scary........

Must you take the above post as personal? All I am asking is if you were doing the same amount of traffic or more that is all I am asking; which is totally legit isn't it? It wasn't meant as personal but I am sorry you took it as such.

Look, this thread isn't about you and I do not want to make it about you. It is about whether other people who are sending a decent amount of traffic to oxcash are having issues. That is all ok? You have answered my questions and I thank you for your time in answering them ok? Now can we move on?

Well that is why I am asking. Is everything alright, but with some people posting that my stats is also what they see; I think I have my answer. Thanks for replying to the post.

if that was at all true, you would not be dissing any small players that might have contibuted to the thread - but have been scared off by your bullshit 100 dollar rant. i like to argue when i see bullshit directed towards me.

but certainly we can move on. if you're throwing 20K+ clicks at them/day and have zero sales, why you haven't left them already is beyond me. pick up the phone and call them to find out about the stats, if you really care.

How about people stop using the word "shave" to describe any problem related to sponsors? I'd say there are hundreds of other possible explanations for the lack of good conversion ratios.

There are always these "Is XYZ.com shaving"

Now I will admit to not knowing a lot about the Internet, porn is my thing, but I have an idea.

When there is this problem, why don't 10-20 of you get together and see if the sponsor in question is straight. You sign up from one page and wait to see if it shows on your stats. You can do this for each other so there is little cost and a lot of benefits.

Tell me why this will not work.

Because they are only one of the sponsors we use. And it doesn't matter if you think I am ranting, it is your issue but I think you have made more enemies on this board then I have ever made, so you can stick to arguing with everyone, for me I have already made my peace with you and whatever your arguements are, I have no interest in hearing. Peace out.

i've noticed conversions dropping with oxcash, but the biggest problem over the past month has been chargebacks and refunds on both ach and credit card. half my rebills came back, which i've never seen with any % program.


has bang bus' member area gone to shit?

For now I'm going to leave up the text links to ox's hosted galleries, because that doesn't burn my b/w and if they do come back to life I'll know about it. But I'm going to change fpa's and all banners & galleries out to another sponsor, for now. I'm tired of seeing zeros across my stats where I used to see numbers... lots of numbers.

The ox rebills were always nice, let's at least hope that continues.

From what I hear is pretty much Jettis' fault... As they refund and give back anything and everything, and because of that they will get rid of them I think.

In regards to the board, they took it down, cuz they have a new board and will put that up .. i think later this week.

Peace!

i know that jettis usually refunds easily, but there were more refund and chargebacks over the last month than there was the previous 6 months. thats a real eye opener for me.

This has already been discussed in depth, Labret had a plan once to do exactly that. The problem is, there are too many variables involved with shaving. From what I've seen, they can adjust the day and affiliates to shave as they wish.

A friend of mine would send around 5 sales daily to a certain sponsor (I won't mention names.) All of a sudden, a week straight of absolutely nothing. Traffic flow and traffic sources were the exact same, all other programs were running smoothly. He picked up the phone and gave this particular sponsor a call, bitched them out. The next day he was up to 5 sales again. A little fishy, eh?

About Ox, my traffic has dumped about 50% since their upgrade. Yippy. I never got in early enough to see what Ox was really about, sucks...

I wish they would come here and provide a better explanation of what they are doing... I mean it's obvious that MANY MANY webmasters have dropped them due to ZERO signups... I hear it over and over again... Personally I have some great traffic so I still continue to convert it, but it's insanely bad like 1:2000... (used to do around 1:400) Really all this trouble started when those fucking VISA announcements were made -- and then Oxcash started making all kinds of crazy changes -- pricing structure options, dropped tour preferences, more processors, different stats info, dialer, now they are adding paypal, dropping ibill, etc. etc... To me it seems possible that yes they may be shaving, but that can't be *it* -- otherwise why the hell would they be investing so much time and energy into the affilate interface? To sucker more webmasters? Not too sure... It's not like NastyDollars where you're in the dark w/ a fucking per/signup program -- hell Oxcash is giving you multiple Jettis accounts, access to dialer stats, and they are working to keep adding more and more billing options... SO I pull out my hair while they pretty much ignore our screams... But check out their latest news -- they claim that their new CC processor setup will dramatically improve signups... I'm not sure I'm going to wait that long -- I'm going to be pushing that traffic to other sponsors in the meantime... But I wouldn't totally write off Oxcash as a leech or not giving a shit because they are set for life with $$$... Not yet. It's just hard to have any faith in something that converts like ass, but I got mad respect for them anyway.

haha, so you want 0 affiliates?

Or maybe I'm just a total sucker. But hell I have been sending them traffic since Realbutts was their only shitty site and all the chicks had zits on their asses...

Oh well, I read what [Labret] and some of the other a lot bigger than me had 2 say... My little white ass is gone. I don't care if you find your traffice from a trash can... if you send 90% plus Unique and no sign ups, something is not right.. And targeted traffice in my books has nothing to do with it. The surfer clicked on a banner or text link that is not miss leading. I have 2 or 3 more sponsors in the same boat.

All of this boils down to a claim that someone can not contact us, therefore things are looking shady! Anyone that is having trouble with their account at Oxcash knows how to get in touch with us. We have multiple emails that are posted in the oxcash members area. There is no way that an email sent to either Billing or Support @oxcash.com have been ignored. If you are having trouble with the emails you are sending or just need an answer right away, try using the phone number we have given you which is posted in the footer of the site. If you need an ICQ, I'll be happy to supply those as well. All in all: email, icq and telephone - how can you not get in touch with us?

** ME 2 **

Ok you fuckers!

You got Penn from Ox there, so u all can stop talking shit!

I bought Shadow some razors one time ...

Not sure if he ever used them or not :eek7

http://www.paysitedesign.com/mach3.gif

:winkwink:

Hmm I hope nobody interpreted me as saying oxcash had bad support -- I think that was somebody else... but I do miss the webmaster board -- misery loves company hehe... Good to hear that a new one will be back up soon -- the old one would get wacked out sometimes.

OXCASH SUCKS - I will be removing all links also. I have noticed also that their forum is gone, must of been all those complaints they were getting from webmasters. I am sure that they shave also...