Would you call this admitting you committed credit card fraud? - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

BusterBunny · 02-10-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Really? What'd you get? I like their toasted subs. Stopped eating them for awhile because of those roadkill-with-mouths commercials.

just the standard issue turkey and cheddar toasted spiel with mustard, mayo, onions and lettuce...the i went for their $5 size but was only 99cents for twice as much so i went with that

edit........woa i hit 150 lol wasnt trying that time

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by john_63

shut the fuck up and down. roboform did this to us.

did roboform also put these two sites on the same IP?

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 07:18 PM

I know if someone fucked me over like this the first thing i would do is clear my name by showing proof i was not involved whatsoever.

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Why don't you out these people and clear your name? Show us all proof of what they did and make sure noone works with them again.

Why don't you? What's stopping you? Unless you do this all the bad shit will point your way.

Use the part of your brain that enables you to think logically and you will be fine...

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Why don't you out these people and clear your name? Show us all proof of what they did and make sure noone works with them again.

Why don't you? What's stopping you? Unless you do this all the bad shit will point your way.

He has nothing to prove, you jackass. Someone signed up with someone else's credit card. That never, ever, ever happens in this industry.. and holy shit, they defrauded a well known program to do it.. and that program not only gets the chargeback, but shit on. I love this fucking industry.

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

So what are you saying? That PR_Daves card got stolen and used to buy a membership at your program?

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

He has nothing to prove, you jackass. Someone signed up with someone else's credit card. That never, ever, ever happens in this industry.. and holy shit, they defrauded a well known program to do it.. and that program not only gets the chargeback, but shit on. I love this fucking industry.

Hey someone uses logic!

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

did roboform also put these two sites on the same IP?

Post proof, or I will request your ban.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:21 PM

...or will I request an apology and a toasted sandwhich?

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Post proof, or I will request your ban.

Proof of what? That these two sites are on the same server?

LOL

here: http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-i...ourtech101.com

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

...or will I request an apology and a toasted sandwhich?

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

Hey someone uses logic!

If you did nothing wrong why did you say multiple times "we made mistakes and we cleaned things up".

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Proof of what? That these two sites are on the same server?

LOL

here: http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-i...ourtech101.com

thats not the point man, you obviously still dont understand... try reading the last 25 posts or so....

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

If you did nothing wrong why did you say multiple times "we made mistakes and we cleaned things up".

Odd, your mother's been making that apology for years now, and nobody questions her.

BusterBunny · 02-10-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

...or will I request an apology and a toasted sandwhich?

fuck i ate the sandwich so i have no proof of it's existence...unless you wanna check my poo

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

If you did nothing wrong why did you say multiple times "we made mistakes and we cleaned things up".

I was referring to our join forms....

stated that earlier in thread...

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

I've already explained to you what we cleaned up on our join pages...

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

fuck i ate the sandwich so i have no proof of it's existence...unless you wanna check my poo

I'd probably start in more obvious places, like checking the trash for the wrapper. The only person I see who'd gladly crawl up your ass with no shred of proof is our resident nutbag here.

stickyfingerz · 02-10-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

I hear DJ once apologized for ordering a sandwhich. He's part of the pizza cartel. Confirm/Deny?

I want one of those big burgers we had that time with the dopey Asian guy. What was that place called?

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Proof of what? That these two site on the same server?

LOL

here: http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-i...ourtech101.com

It's useless. They lie, bullshit, bend the truth, refuse to tell certain things etc.

Everyone by now can see it's a huge clusterfuck with many people and many companies involved and it's clear noone is gonna spill the beans.

I'm happy with the way this thread went. It did exactly what i hoped for. Archivecash telling lies and bullshit and basically showing everyone what a crap is going on there.

In 1 post they admit making mistakes, the other they did they didn't. 1 post they are not involved with other companies, the other they are. Everyone is telling a different story, theyre mentioning names of people that are from movies, a rogue employee or 2, roboform and the list goes on and on and on...I think nobody can deny anymore (besides the people involved directly in this shit as they are full of shit) that this is as shady as it can get. All the proof is in this thread.

I'm done for now.

I'll bump it a few times later if i don't get banned.

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

thats not the point man, you obviously still dont understand... try reading the last 25 posts or so....

Please sir, help me understand.

Here are the facts:

- PR_Dave's credit card got banged by www.yourtech101.com
- yourtech101.com belongs to www.archivecash.com

Seems pretty much straightforward.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I want one of those big burgers we had that time with the dopey Asian guy. What was that place called?

Ah shit, I don't remember. Those were awesome. It was the second casado place across from the US Embassy. The chicken place around the corner was a lot tastier, though.

Agent 488 · 02-10-2009, 07:29 PM

so another company was using stolen cards to card archive cash?

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

I was referring to our join forms....

stated that earlier in thread...

Uhm no you said in response to Dave thread where his card got band that "we made mistakes". His card got banged by the rogue signup page now?

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

It's useless. They lie, bullshit, bend the truth, refuse to tell certain things etc.

Everyone by now can see it's a huge clusterfuck with many people and many companies involved and it's clear noone is gonna spill the beans.

I'm happy with the way this thread went. It did exactly what i hoped for. Archivecash telling lies and bullshit and basically showing everyone what a crap is going on there.

In 1 post they admit making mistakes, the other they did they didn't. 1 post they are not involved with other companies, the other they are. Everyone is telling a different story, theyre mentioning names of people that are from movies, a rogue employee or 2, roboform and the list goes on and on and] on...I think nobody can deny anymore (besides the people involved directly in this shit as they are full of shit) that this is as shady as it can get. All the proof is in this thread.

I'm done for now.

I'll bump it a few times later if i don't get banned.

No, I think I'll request your ban now. Thanks for playing.

stickyfingerz · 02-10-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Ah shit, I don't remember. Those were awesome. It was the second casado place across from the US Embassy. The chicken place around the corner was a lot tastier, though.

Well shit, was the chicken place closed when we went? How are ye take me to a sub standard food place..

lol The Asian guy ate at least 2 of them big fuckers. lol

Agent 488 · 02-10-2009, 07:31 PM

or pr dave signed up for an archive cash site and kept getting banged by archive cash?

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

It's useless. They lie, bullshit, bend the truth, refuse to tell certain things etc.

Everyone by now can see it's a huge clusterfuck with many people and many companies involved and it's clear noone is gonna spill the beans.

I'm happy with the way this thread went. It did exactly what i hoped for. Archivecash telling lies and bullshit and basically showing everyone what a crap is going on there.

In 1 post they admit making mistakes, the other they did they didn't. 1 post they are not involved with other companies, the other they are. Everyone is telling a different story, theyre mentioning names of people that are from movies, a rogue employee or 2, roboform and the list goes on and on and on...I think nobody can deny anymore (besides the people involved directly in this shit as they are full of shit) that this is as shady as it can get. All the proof is in this thread.

I'm done for now.

I'll bump it a few times later if i don't get banned.

We haven't lied about a single thing....

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Well shit, was the chicken place closed when we went? How are ye take me to a sub standard food place..

lol The Asian guy ate at least 2 of them big fuckers. lol

Yeah, they closed early for some reason. She was still open. That asian guy was funny as shit. I thought to myself "Sticky went a long way to get a new pet." You never did tell me how horrific the hotel room was.

john_63 · 02-10-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

or pr dave signed up for an archive cash site and kept getting banged by archive cash?

dense? roboform banged daves card.

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

No, I think I'll request your ban now. Thanks for playing.

Ban for what? Everything he said seems to be true.

ArchiveCash are so caught up in their bullshit, they can't figure out what story they should stick to

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Ban for what? Everything he said seems to be true.

ArchiveCash are so caught up in their bullshit, they can't figure out what story they should stick to

Banned for accusations without proof. Now, what were you trying to prove with your screenshot? Can we get a 2 for 1?

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:36 PM

Banburgers are the most delicious bugers of them all.

Agent 488 · 02-10-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by john_63

dense? roboform banged daves card.

roboform should be banned then.

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

He has nothing to prove, you jackass. Someone signed up with someone else's credit card. That never, ever, ever happens in this industry.. and holy shit, they defrauded a well known program to do it.. and that program not only gets the chargeback, but shit on. I love this fucking industry.

what he said....

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Now, what were you trying to prove with your screenshot? Can we get a 2 for 1?

Why don't you scroll up and read, idiot.

mrkris · 02-10-2009, 07:38 PM

I don't know about any relationship with these companies but I can, from reading and basic understanding, come up with these few points.

1. There was a xsell setup between I$ and ArchiveCash
2. A (possible?) fraudulent charge was made to ArchiveCash by I$
3. Since there is no system to validate whether a sale from a xsell is legit or not, it went through.
4. PRDave posts that he got nailed by ArchiveCash (of course, the xsell ...)

Now, as far as DJ saying that ArchiveCash made mistakes and are cleaning up, I can only assume by the points I came up with that:

1. ArchiveCash realized the shady relationship
2. ArchiveCash is not allowing the xsells, hence, the "cleaning up".

I could be wrong. I could be right, but Frank, you should consider providing proof that they banged PRDaves card outside of the xsell, rather than requesting they prove they did not.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Why don't you scroll up and read, idiot.

Holy fuck? Several domains on a single IP! Someone call the feds.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

I could be wrong. I could be write, but Frank, you should consider providing proof that they banged PRDaves card outside of the xsell, rather than requesting them prove they did not.

'sup kris? How's your burger?

Edit: You edited your post. How do I know I can trust you?

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:42 PM

SINCE WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF MORONS HERE, LETS RECAP AGAIN:

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

- PR_Dave's credit card got banged by www.yourtech101.com

- yourtech101.com belongs to www.archivecash.com

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I have spoke with the owner of Archive Cash and he let me know that the person responsible for this bullshit has been removed from the company.

What bullshit? You're now saying that PR_Dave's credit card got stolen and was used to buy a membership at Archivecash.com (wow, what a councidence!)

So what are you apologising for and what was the 'rogue employee' fired for?

john_63 · 02-10-2009, 07:42 PM

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

I don't know about any relationship with these companies but I can, from reading and basic understanding, come up with these few points.

1. There was a xsell setup between I$ and ArchiveCash
2. A (possible?) fraudulent charge was made to ArchiveCash by I$
3. Since there is no system to validate whether a sale from a xsell is legit or not, it went through.
4. PRDave posts that he got nailed by ArchiveCash (of course, the xsell ...)

Now, as far as DJ saying that ArchiveCash made mistakes and are cleaning up, I can only assume by the points I came up with that:

1. ArchiveCash realized the shady relationship
2. ArchiveCash is not allowing the xsells, hence, the "cleaning up".

I could be wrong. I could be write, but Frank, you should consider providing proof that they banged PRDaves card outside of the xsell, rather than requesting them prove they did not.

Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?

fuzebox · 02-10-2009, 07:43 PM

I've never been quoted so many times in a thread... Should I be flattered?

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Holy fuck? Several domains on a single IP! Someone call the feds.

Are you denying that the two domains are owned by the same company?

yourtech101.com
archivecash.com

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

SINCE WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF MORONS HERE, LETS RECAP AGAIN:

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

- PR_Dave's credit card got banged by www.yourtech101.com

- yourtech101.com belongs to www.archivecash.com

What bullshit? You're now saying that PR_Dave's credit card got stolen and was used to buy a membership at Archivecash.com (wow, what a councidence!)

So what are you apologising for and what was the 'rogue employee' fired for?

Now it's a rogue employee again? I thought it was another company doing it to them? At least according to them.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 07:45 PM

Why would they come up with SO many different bs stories if they are not to blame?

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Are you denying that the two domains are owned by the same company?

yourtech101.com
archivecash.com

No, he's mocking you....

fuzebox · 02-10-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?

I don't really know the details here, but I'd guess based on the type of responses that they were instructed not to by their lawyers.

DarkJedi · 02-10-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?

How can I$ be responsible for this if Dave's card GOT BANGED BY ARCHIVECHASH.COM?

mrkris · 02-10-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Even if this is right why refuse to tell this? The only thing i can see is that Dave got charges from THEIR domain. If that isn't the case and I$ is behind this for some reason why don't they show this to us?

Since when has any drama been solved with a straight forward response in adult?

potter · 02-10-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Again, I will attempt to explain this in as tiny of words as possible.

Card goes into Site A with cross sales opted in.
Site A sends charges for Site A on Site A merchant, also to Site B's merchant.
Site B charges on Site B's merchant, because they are Site B.

Tomorrow, Class, we will cover Subtraction, Addition's tricky pal.

Isn't this illegal? I thought both Visa and Mastercard specifically state you cannot share/distribute card holder information between different merchants.

If someone signs up for site A. They can legally be charged for site B,C,D,E - so long as those sites use the same merchant account. When you purchase something through one merchant you are only agreeing to pay that merchant and that merchant cannot legally send your information to a different merchant for processing. - That is basically sharing credit card information and that is illegal. Just because you are a merchant, you don't have rights to anyone and everyone's credit card information.

Say a legit company like Comcast had a deal with Best Buy. You buy something at Best Buy, you get one month free at Comcast. Best Buy's merchant cannot take card holder information from the Best Buy transaction and give it to Comcast's merchant. If they're on two different merchant accounts, Best Buy would give you some sort of coupon or direction to go directly to Comcast's merchant and provide your info. From THERE you would technically sign up for the free month, and provide credit card info.

- Actually I recall best buy doing this with magazine subscriptions a while back. When you signed up for the free subscriptions. You got your free subscriptions and at the end of the free cycle, you received purchase information from the magazine directly. You then have to manually give the magazine company's merchant your credit card information. It was legal for Best Buy to give the magazine company your "personal" info with your opt in. It was not legal for Best Buy to give the magazine company your credit card info.

If the adult industry is really sending card holder information between different merchants. And I'm right that this is illegal. Then this business is long down the drain and these companies information need to be sent to the authorities and not just "called out" on GFY or other boards.

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mrkris Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,737	I don't know about any relationship with these companies but I can, from reading and basic understanding, come up with these few points. 1. There was a xsell setup between I$ and ArchiveCash 2. A (possible?) fraudulent charge was made to ArchiveCash by I$ 3. Since there is no system to validate whether a sale from a xsell is legit or not, it went through. 4. PRDave posts that he got nailed by ArchiveCash (of course, the xsell ...) Now, as far as DJ saying that ArchiveCash made mistakes and are cleaning up, I can only assume by the points I came up with that: 1. ArchiveCash realized the shady relationship 2. ArchiveCash is not allowing the xsells, hence, the "cleaning up". I could be wrong. I could be right, but Frank, you should consider providing proof that they banged PRDaves card outside of the xsell, rather than requesting they prove they did not. __________________ PHP-MySQL-Rails \| ICQ: 342500546 Last edited by mrkris; 02-10-2009 at 07:41 PM.. Reason: typo

02-10-2009, 07:18 PM	#153
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I know if someone fucked me over like this the first thing i would do is clear my name by showing proof i was not involved whatsoever.

02-10-2009, 07:29 PM	#172
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	so another company was using stolen cards to card archive cash?

02-10-2009, 07:31 PM	#176
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	or pr dave signed up for an archive cash site and kept getting banged by archive cash?

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02-10-2009, 07:43 PM	#192
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,074	I've never been quoted so many times in a thread... Should I be flattered?

02-10-2009, 07:45 PM	#195
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Why would they come up with SO many different bs stories if they are not to blame?