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Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SordidShawn (Post 15471786)
Hi. I can field this one.

The domain "SoloConverts" was registered by Anthony DeMaria, a former employee of SBV who once handled our domain registrations. The reasons for our name being there rather than his own are known only to himself.




That's a non-functional copy of the NetBilling cancel system originally written by Tanguy de Courson. Try it, it doesn't do anything. Jim gave a copy of it to our programmer at some point in 2007; he didn't bother changing the skin because we didn't use it.

Yeah yeah and nobody has anything to do with eachother. Nobody knows eachother and besides all the shared support pages, xsells, names, domains, employees, ex employees NONE of these companies have anything to do with eachother :1orglaugh

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471801)
Yeah yeah and nobody has anything to do with eachother. Nobody knows eachother and besides all the shared support pages, xsells, names, domains, employees, ex employees NONE of these companies have anything to do with eachother :1orglaugh

No one said we don't know each other. I also know people from many other companies, but that doesn't mean we work with them...

Now this thread is just silly...

fuzebox 02-10-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471162)
This goes way beyond that. You have no clue.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

GrouchyAdmin knows more of the whole story than anyone else on this board.

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471746)
Pocketkangeroo just owned your ass

Holy fuck dude. I have a copy of that cancel script too! In fact, I once templated it for another company. Now accuse me of something so I can ban your insipid little ass.

I did a bit of background searching on the domain issue, and it's tenuous at best. Other than sharing a common domain for the initial registration, I fail to see any link.

pocketkangaroo 02-10-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SordidShawn (Post 15471786)
Hi. I can field this one.

The domain "SoloConverts" was registered by Anthony DeMaria, a former employee of SBV who once handled our domain registrations. The reasons for our name being there rather than his own are known only to himself.

You do have to admit that it's extremely odd for a former employee to register his new business venture under your company's name and using your company's e-mail address (which I'm assuming he wouldn't have access to). And since you mentioned he handled domain registrations, are you saying he still had access to the account and was registering personal domains under it? I can't think of a reason you would mention it otherwise.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:27 PM

Almost page 3 and Deejne still can't explain his quote i posted at the start of this thread :1orglaugh

john_63 02-10-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SordidShawn (Post 15471786)
The domain "SoloConverts" was registered by Anthony DeMaria, a former employee of SBV who once handled our domain registrations.

Anthony DeMaria

he was one of the stars in bossxxx oh so famous costa rica movie.

this is getting better and better. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 15471812)
Holy fuck dude. I have a copy of that cancel script too! In fact, I once templated it for another company. Now accuse me of something so I can ban your insipid little ass.

I did a bit of background searching on the domain issue, and it's tenuous at best. Other than sharing a common domain for the initial registration, I fail to see any link.

:1orglaugh

First they have nothing to do with eachother now it turns out they did have something with eachother and you're still denying it :1orglaugh

Piss off clown. It's clear i don't have to pay attention to you anymore because you're just as full of shit as Deejne.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471819)
Almost page 3 and Deejne still can't explain his quote i posted at the start of this thread :1orglaugh

I've already explained to you what we cleaned up on our join pages...

You've run dry DirtyF... quit while you're ahead...

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_63 (Post 15471820)
Anthony DeMaria

he was one of the stars in bossxxx oh so famous costa rica movie.

this is getting better and better. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:error

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15471818)
You do have to admit that it's extremely odd for a former employee to register his new business venture under your company's name and using your company's e-mail address (which I'm assuming he wouldn't have access to). And since you mentioned he handled domain registrations, are you saying he still had access to the account and was registering personal domains under it? I can't think of a reason you would mention it otherwise.

It is quite strange, that's why I qualified my statement. No, this domain was not registered under our GoDaddy account. All I can assume is that he hit 'autocomplete' on RoboForm. I do know that it does not amuse me.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15471828)
I've already explained to you what we cleaned up on our join pages...

You've run dry DirtyF... quit while you're ahead...

And that has to do what exactly with that quote?

Do i need to repeat myself again?

PRdave: my card got banged my Archivecash.
Deejne: Yes we made mistakes.

So once again did you admit Archivecash banged his card? If not then FUCKING EXPLAIN FFS AFTER TWO PAGES OF BULLSHIT what exactly you DID mean.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SordidShawn (Post 15471839)
It is quite strange, that's why I qualified my statement. No, this domain was not registered under our GoDaddy account. All I can assume is that he hit 'autocomplete' on RoboForm. I do know that it does not amuse me.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The roboform...

Grats, thats a new one. Never heard this one before.

Omg, is there ONE answer from any of you guys without total fucking bs? Just ONE? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is just too much...

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15471818)
You do have to admit that it's extremely odd for a former employee to register his new business venture under your company's name and using your company's e-mail address (which I'm assuming he wouldn't have access to). And since you mentioned he handled domain registrations, are you saying he still had access to the account and was registering personal domains under it? I can't think of a reason you would mention it otherwise.

Anthony still worked with us when he registered the domain... July '08...

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471826)
:1orglaugh

First they have nothing to do with eachother now it turns out they did have something with eachother and you're still denying it :1orglaugh

Piss off clown. It's clear i don't have to pay attention to you anymore because you're just as full of shit as Deejne.

I'm not saying there's absolutely no link - if you grasp hard enough you're bound to find something. This industry is so incestuous, I'd be surprised if there was no link at all. Anthony used to work for SBV, and before that, he represented hahaha. Feel free to weave that into your tapestry of bullshit just as much as you want.. it still doesn't make it true.

fuzebox 02-10-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471386)
The charge from his card is from a domain right from their server. Stfu moron. You're clueless.

You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

DarkJedi 02-10-2009 06:36 PM

SoloConverts accused of fucking people out of money (ArchiveCash has been accused of the same)

Now

- both programs shared the same whois info
- both programs are hosted at ISPRIME


Coincidece. NOT.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471853)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The roboform...

Grats, thats a new one. Never heard this one before.

Omg, is there ONE answer from any of you guys without total fucking bs? Just ONE? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is just too much...

Funny thing is we are giving you straight truthful answers and you're just sitting here claiming that everything we say is a lie... prove it.

I haven't seen you give us any proof of anything... yet you are accusing us of CC fraud (something we never have and never will do)... that's pretty serious... do you want to continue?

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 15471866)
Anthony used to work for SBV, and before that, he represented hahaha.


What a surprise :1orglaugh

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471853)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The roboform...

Grats, thats a new one. Never heard this one before.

Omg, is there ONE answer from any of you guys without total fucking bs? Just ONE? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is just too much...

I could register any domain name I wanted in anyone's name. You aren't even required to have a valid email address to do so.

I came here to state that this domain has never had anything to do with, or represent our company.

BusterBunny 02-10-2009 06:39 PM

100 drama points

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15471875)

I haven't seen you give us any proof of anything... yet you are accusing us of CC fraud (something we never have and never will do)... that's pretty serious... do you want to continue?

PRdave: my card got banged my Archivecash.
Deejne: Yes we made mistakes.

You still can't explain what you meant with that. Why don't you explain it to us because to the average person that really does look like you admit it you know.

What else am i or anyone else supposed to think when reading your comment. You did this to yourself, not me.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471884)
What a surprise :1orglaugh

You are the one bringing the false claims against us, not vice-versa... it is YOUR responsibility DirtyF to provide proof and back up your claims, not ours...

Do it, or get out...

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471892)
PRdave: my card got banged my Archivecash.
Deejne: Yes we made mistakes.

You still can't explain what you meant with that. Why don't you explain to us because to the average person that really does look like you admit it you know.

DJ's statement was regarding making mistakes with trusting fellow companies, he was not "admitting" to anything beyond that. Your reading into this to try to get the story you want doesn't make it any more true. Please refrain from continuing with your statements.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SordidShawn (Post 15471908)
DJ's statement was regarding making mistakes with trusting fellow companies, he was not "admitting" to anything beyond that. Your reading into this to try to get the story you want doesn't make it any more true. Please refrain from continuing with your statements.

So you worked with the wrong companies? The companies you just said you didn't work with?

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15471868)
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

Thank you; it's about goddamn time someone who actually knows how this shit works shows up.

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471914)
So you worked with the wrong companies? The companies you just said you didn't work with?

This tactic is old and feeble, like your accusations. Please attempt to state that I have made any statements beyond those in this thread, and I will have you banned. Good day, troll.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471914)
So you worked with the wrong companies? The companies you just said you didn't work with?

Are you dense?

DarkJedi 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15471893)
You are the one bringing the false claims against us, not vice-versa... it is YOUR responsibility DirtyF to provide proof and back up your claims, not ours...

Do it, or get out...

A highly respected webmaster community member (PRdave) stepped forward and said that his card got banged by your program.

How do you refute this?

beemk 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15471868)
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

stop making sense of things, franck needs something to whine about.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:47 PM

So why not clear your name 100% and just tell us what happened? Instead you come up with a clusterfuck of names, domains, support sites blah blah bullshit. If you're not to blame whatsoever which is a possibility but i highly doubt it why not spill the beans right now.

Just tell us company x screwed us over by doing this and that.

Archives rep can be cleared INSTANTLY by doing this and showing some proof. Why do you refuse to do this? Instead you come up with weird ass excuses that makes you look more and more shady with every reply you make.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:48 PM

I know for a fact that if someone screwed me over and made it look like i screwed other people over i would go to the boards right away to explain the whole fucking thing, name names and make sure everyone knows exactly what happened and that it wasn't my fault.

Why Archivecash isn't doing this is beyond me.

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15471942)
A highly respected webmaster community member (PRdave) stepped forward and said that his card got banged by your program.

How do you refute this?

Read.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15471868)
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

Learn.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 15471944)
stop making sense of things, franck needs something to whine about.

Ah the little bitch had to step in just to attack me a little. Like always :1orglaugh


Pathetic.

stickyfingerz 02-10-2009 06:50 PM

Wow this thread is getting retarded. Franck read the posts by Grouchy Admin, and Fuzebox both these guys know their shit.

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471952)
I know for a fact that if someone screwed me over and made it look like i screwed other people over i would go to the boards right away to explain the whole fucking thing, name names and make sure everyone knows exactly what happened and that it wasn't my fault.

Why Archivecash isn't doing this is beyond me.

You go from outright accusations to a weak reverse-logic "Gee why aren't they protecting themselves" statement in a few pages? How asinine can you be? We'd have to deal with idiots like you.

BVF 02-10-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 15471944)
stop making sense of things, franck needs something to whine about.

I know Frank whines like a muthafucka.....But the point remains....

Someone says their credit card got banged
An employee apologizes for it and won't explain what they were doing wrong.

That has nothing to do with NATS and cross sales and who knows who and who used to work for who, and who initially registered a domain, etc. etc......

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15471972)
I know Frank whines like a muthafucka.....But the point remains....

Someone says their credit card got banged
An employee apologizes for it and won't explain what they were doing wrong.

That has nothing to do with NATS and cross sales and who knows who and who used to work for who, and who initially registered a domain, etc. etc......

Are you dense too? READ... and we never apologized for anything, because we didn't do anything wrong...

starpimps 02-10-2009 06:55 PM

dj the starpimps

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15471960)
Wow this thread is getting retarded. Franck read the posts by Grouchy Admin, and Fuzebox both these guys know their shit.

Because he shows a theory of what is POSSIBLE that suddenly turned into proof that Archivecash is clean now?

It's impossible they did shady stuff because other companies *can* bang cards?


If i steal your money through Epassporte via my account it 100% means i didn't do that because someone else might have hacked my account as well?

Or does that mean there's a chance i did it?

I understand his theory but whats the fucking point? So because something is possible doesnt mean Archive is not involved. Now piss off.


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