If you're going to make a baseless accusation, at least have the balls to do so.

And yours 2 posts ago was based on what exactly?

Simple question. Did you charge PR_Dave's card without permission or not? Have you done this with other's people cards or not? Do you think being coy is going to make everything Ok? Either man up or shut up that way the other guy will STFU too.

Ok, I don't have a dog in this fight....However, why don't you just way WHAT THE MISTAKE WAS?

Stop making sense... lol

And you know there is not more going on how exactly? Please explain.

Guilty until proved innocent is so 1999.

Unless you have any proof, or wish to actually make your accusation, just shut the hell up. All you've offered is speculation with no backbone. It was even acknowledged that AC was sent this card as a cross sale. So, what makes this their fault, or even a conspiracy? If you're just looking for thread views, buy some Choker traffic.

Without me getting into this, what was the card billed as? Archive cash, or Incredible dollars? Did Dave uncheck the xsales? Did the extra bangs come from the xsales or from the initial signup? I have no dog in this fight, I just don't like seeing the bandwagoning without some substantial proof.

the fact that sticky is commenting on a thread about ripping someone off is the height of irony.

Yet you jumped on the bandwagon without knowing anything. First you comment like you know what's going on and now you ask me what's going on.

All i can say is this.
PRDave probably knows the story here but he assumes any bad publicity about other programs is good publicity for his programs. Any reason why he didn't go to ArchiveCash directly? Would have been cleared up in 5 mins.
Any way this join was sent as an xsell from another program dave? Hmmm?
Thats all i'll say here.

Suck my big white cock you fat no nothing troll. I never ripped off anyone period.

Ok what proof have you shown so far?

This thread delivers..

Dirty F: How does this affect you? And if it doesn't, then why are you talking about it? If you have some vendetta/hatred for this company and/or the people who work for it, don't vent it on the board and try to stir up shit.

Also, if its an issue from the PAST, why bring it up at all?

Well, looks like Deejne left the building. I think we know enough. He is unable whatsoever to explain to us what else it means.

He's billed by Archivecash you retard. No xsell.

You mean other than what they do is killing the affiliate industry, because the surfer no longer trust a membership program? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Compared to buying something from Amazon.com, I don't trust a membership program, and I'm a webmaster, lol. There isn't 1 honest company out there that exists that gives you ample opportunity to cancel your membership before the trial expires, is completely 100% transparent, and don't try to cross sell you on join, upsell you in members area, or spam you after they have your info.

You really don't understand a damn thing, do you? When you buy a Toyota, you don't pay GMC. That's not how it works. So, not only are you baseless, but clueless. Wait, I already knew that.

Guys, I need some popcorn here!

gotta turn up the gain on my drama detector

It does affect me like every company who screws over customers affect me. They're killing my potential customers cc's.

Issue from the past? This is from a few weeks ago.

The charge from his card is from a domain right from their server. Stfu moron. You're clueless.

Anyway before i get banned again this thread isn't about xsells, banging cards in general etc. I'm not gonna talk about that any further because i know Eric is very close to the ban button at this point.

This thread was started so Deejne could explain that quote from post 1. He can't so as i said before: I know enough. And anybody with an iq above 80 should know enough as well.

Again, I will attempt to explain this in as tiny of words as possible.

Card goes into Site A with cross sales opted in.
Site A sends charges for Site A on Site A merchant, also to Site B's merchant.
Site B charges on Site B's merchant, because they are Site B.

Tomorrow, Class, we will cover Subtraction, Addition's tricky pal.

Come on, make the accusation. I want to request your ban, myself.

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Oh good grief... what a mess. We should all get back to work.

Are you sure about that? Here is the whois from one month ago.

http://whois.domaintools.com/soloconverts.com

Registrant:
sbvmedia
Pier 38
San Fran, California 94111
United States

Domain Name: SOLOCONVERTS.COM
Created on: 04-Jul-08
Expires on: 04-Jul-09
Last Updated on: 31-Oct-08

Administrative Contact:
DeMaria, Joseph [email protected]
sbvmedia
Pier 38
San Fran, California 94111
United States
(415) 250-1611 Fax --


http://whois.domaintools.com/archivecash.com

Registrant:
Sordid Ones BV
26B Dokweg
Ijmuiden, Noord Holland 1976A
Cyprus

Domain Name: ARCHIVECASH.COM
Created on: 18-Jan-07
Expires on: 18-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 19-Jan-08

Administrative Contact:
SORDID ONES BV, SORDID ONES BV [email protected]
SORDID ONES BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJMUIDEN, Noord Holland 1976A
Cyprus
4152387657 Fax --

Now mind you, both sites have now magically opted for privacy protection since this shitstorm has started, but you can view the previous whois records there with a paid account.

But it is one hell of a coincidence that both sites were owned by essentially the same company. That SBV Media is listed all over the support pages for Archive Cash sites. I mean for two companies who have absolutely nothing to do with one another, they sure have a lot of things in common right down to the name of their companies.

And perhaps this is another coincidence too, but why does SoloConverts list Incredible Dollars as their customer service center?

http://posts.soloconverts.com/cancel/cancel.php

Let me add that I, along with the dozen or so other people, have tested the sites and been hit with multiple charges. I signed up with IncrediblePass.com and was hit by the circle jerk of charges for a couple weeks until I cancelled the card. All I know is that the charges I got hit with all seem to be from companies that have extremely close relations. We're talking same company names, same people owning them, same people working for them, and same support pages.

2+2=4

Interesting twist.

The guy who registered soloconverts.com used to work for us. He no longer does (has been months now). Now as a stated before... we don't have anything to do with Incredible or SoloConverts... If you have an issue with them, you need to contact them. Not post it here on a board.

Pocketkangeroo just owned your ass :1orglaugh

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You'll need to come up with a better excuse, you lying cunt

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Oh and btw when Deejne says stuff "we don't work with that or that company or we don't do this or that" he fails to mention they did do that for as long the company exists but they removed it last week so now he can act like it never happened. Know what i mean?

basically every reply he makes is shady, a lie or bullshit.

Oh and btw when Deejne says stuff "we don't work with that or that company or we don't do this or that" he fails to mention they did do that for as long the company exists but they removed it last week so now he can act like it never happened. Know what i mean?

basically every reply he makes is shady, a lie or bullshit.

:error Its not an excuse. Its the truth...

Ant even explains that here: https://gfy.com/15179587-post45.html

Hi. I can field this one.

The domain "SoloConverts" was registered by Anthony DeMaria, a former employee of SBV who once handled our domain registrations. The reasons for our name being there rather than his own are known only to himself.


That's a non-functional copy of the NetBilling cancel system originally written by Tanguy de Courson. Try it, it doesn't do anything. Jim gave a copy of it to our programmer at some point in 2007; he didn't bother changing the skin because we didn't use it.