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BusterBunny 02-10-2009 06:39 PM

100 drama points

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15471875)

I haven't seen you give us any proof of anything... yet you are accusing us of CC fraud (something we never have and never will do)... that's pretty serious... do you want to continue?

PRdave: my card got banged my Archivecash.
Deejne: Yes we made mistakes.

You still can't explain what you meant with that. Why don't you explain it to us because to the average person that really does look like you admit it you know.

What else am i or anyone else supposed to think when reading your comment. You did this to yourself, not me.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471884)
What a surprise :1orglaugh

You are the one bringing the false claims against us, not vice-versa... it is YOUR responsibility DirtyF to provide proof and back up your claims, not ours...

Do it, or get out...

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471892)
PRdave: my card got banged my Archivecash.
Deejne: Yes we made mistakes.

You still can't explain what you meant with that. Why don't you explain to us because to the average person that really does look like you admit it you know.

DJ's statement was regarding making mistakes with trusting fellow companies, he was not "admitting" to anything beyond that. Your reading into this to try to get the story you want doesn't make it any more true. Please refrain from continuing with your statements.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SordidShawn (Post 15471908)
DJ's statement was regarding making mistakes with trusting fellow companies, he was not "admitting" to anything beyond that. Your reading into this to try to get the story you want doesn't make it any more true. Please refrain from continuing with your statements.

So you worked with the wrong companies? The companies you just said you didn't work with?

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15471868)
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

Thank you; it's about goddamn time someone who actually knows how this shit works shows up.

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471914)
So you worked with the wrong companies? The companies you just said you didn't work with?

This tactic is old and feeble, like your accusations. Please attempt to state that I have made any statements beyond those in this thread, and I will have you banned. Good day, troll.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471914)
So you worked with the wrong companies? The companies you just said you didn't work with?

Are you dense?

DarkJedi 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15471893)
You are the one bringing the false claims against us, not vice-versa... it is YOUR responsibility DirtyF to provide proof and back up your claims, not ours...

Do it, or get out...

A highly respected webmaster community member (PRdave) stepped forward and said that his card got banged by your program.

How do you refute this?

beemk 02-10-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15471868)
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

stop making sense of things, franck needs something to whine about.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:47 PM

So why not clear your name 100% and just tell us what happened? Instead you come up with a clusterfuck of names, domains, support sites blah blah bullshit. If you're not to blame whatsoever which is a possibility but i highly doubt it why not spill the beans right now.

Just tell us company x screwed us over by doing this and that.

Archives rep can be cleared INSTANTLY by doing this and showing some proof. Why do you refuse to do this? Instead you come up with weird ass excuses that makes you look more and more shady with every reply you make.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:48 PM

I know for a fact that if someone screwed me over and made it look like i screwed other people over i would go to the boards right away to explain the whole fucking thing, name names and make sure everyone knows exactly what happened and that it wasn't my fault.

Why Archivecash isn't doing this is beyond me.

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15471942)
A highly respected webmaster community member (PRdave) stepped forward and said that his card got banged by your program.

How do you refute this?

Read.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15471868)
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

Learn.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 15471944)
stop making sense of things, franck needs something to whine about.

Ah the little bitch had to step in just to attack me a little. Like always :1orglaugh


Pathetic.

stickyfingerz 02-10-2009 06:50 PM

Wow this thread is getting retarded. Franck read the posts by Grouchy Admin, and Fuzebox both these guys know their shit.

SordidShawn 02-10-2009 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471952)
I know for a fact that if someone screwed me over and made it look like i screwed other people over i would go to the boards right away to explain the whole fucking thing, name names and make sure everyone knows exactly what happened and that it wasn't my fault.

Why Archivecash isn't doing this is beyond me.

You go from outright accusations to a weak reverse-logic "Gee why aren't they protecting themselves" statement in a few pages? How asinine can you be? We'd have to deal with idiots like you.

BVF 02-10-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 15471944)
stop making sense of things, franck needs something to whine about.

I know Frank whines like a muthafucka.....But the point remains....

Someone says their credit card got banged
An employee apologizes for it and won't explain what they were doing wrong.

That has nothing to do with NATS and cross sales and who knows who and who used to work for who, and who initially registered a domain, etc. etc......

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15471972)
I know Frank whines like a muthafucka.....But the point remains....

Someone says their credit card got banged
An employee apologizes for it and won't explain what they were doing wrong.

That has nothing to do with NATS and cross sales and who knows who and who used to work for who, and who initially registered a domain, etc. etc......

Are you dense too? READ... and we never apologized for anything, because we didn't do anything wrong...

starpimps 02-10-2009 06:55 PM

dj the starpimps

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15471960)
Wow this thread is getting retarded. Franck read the posts by Grouchy Admin, and Fuzebox both these guys know their shit.

Because he shows a theory of what is POSSIBLE that suddenly turned into proof that Archivecash is clean now?

It's impossible they did shady stuff because other companies *can* bang cards?


If i steal your money through Epassporte via my account it 100% means i didn't do that because someone else might have hacked my account as well?

Or does that mean there's a chance i did it?

I understand his theory but whats the fucking point? So because something is possible doesnt mean Archive is not involved. Now piss off.

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471987)
Because he shows a theory of what is POSSIBLE that suddenly turned into proof that Archivecash is clean now?

It's impossible they did shady stuff because other companies *can* bang cards?


If i steal your money through Epassporte via my account it 00% means i didn't do that because someone else might have hacked my account as well?

Or does that mean there's a chance i did it?

I understand his theory but whats the fucking point? So because something is possible doesnt mean Archive is not involved. Now piss off.

Backpedal faster.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15471985)
Are you dense too? READ... and we never apologized for anything, because we didn't do anything wrong...

If you never did anything wrong why do you say things like "mistakes happened" and "we cleaned up the program".

Jesus, your bullshit just goes on and on and on...

D Ghost 02-10-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471997)
If you never did anything wrong why do you say things like "mistakes happened" and "we cleaned up the program".

Jesus, your bullshit just goes on and on and on...

You are so lost

Dirty F 02-10-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 15471992)
Backpedal faster.

:1orglaugh

Uh yeah :error

Ok, enough with your crap. I won't read your bs anymore not will i respond to it.

Search up backpedal btw moron.

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471997)
If you never did anything wrong why do you say things like "mistakes happened" and "we cleaned up the program".

Jesus, your bullshit just goes on and on and on...

Little bit faster, Frank. You're not quite there, yet.

pocketkangaroo 02-10-2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15471868)
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Franck I know you're aggressive and all but you should at least learn the facts before going on a board crusade.

In any event, it's still the companies responsibility to know who they are dealing with and what the consequences of those relationships are. I can understand getting burned by someone, but I do find it hard to believe that this was able to go on for as long as it had before a light bulb went on in someone's head. This only stopped when it was taken to the boards.

And while you may not believe with Franck's tactics or posts, he is still bring up something that is unresolved. There was someone who was benefiting from this. Someone who was committing massive credit card fraud. Every company who has been implicated in this has come out and said they had nothing to do with it.

When you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, you're going to be scrutinized regardless of whether you were stealing the cookie or putting it back. Especially when many of your former employees and investors have crumbs all over their shirts too.

starpimps 02-10-2009 07:00 PM

starpimps the kid

stickyfingerz 02-10-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15471997)
If you never did anything wrong why do you say things like "mistakes happened" and "we cleaned up the program".

Jesus, your bullshit just goes on and on and on...

Franck this is a dumb thing to get banned over. :2 cents:

DarkJedi 02-10-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 15471954)
Read.

Learn.

PRDaves card wasn't banged by cross sells. It was banged by ArchiveCash directly.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15472003)
You are so lost

There is one person very, very lost here and that's you. You change your bs with every post you make :1orglaugh

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15472018)
PRDaves card wasn't banged by cross sells. It was banged by ArchiveCash directly.

That's how cross sales work, doofus.

Company A charges for Company A and Company B charges for Company B

If he got charged by AC directly, someone had to have his fucking credit card.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15472018)
PRDaves card wasn't banged by cross sells. It was banged by ArchiveCash directly.

No that's false. Please provide proof.... :)

BusterBunny 02-10-2009 07:02 PM

are we at 150 yet?

Dirty F 02-10-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15472016)
Franck this is a dumb thing to get banned over. :2 cents:

Then let's end it. Deejne is gonna explain what mistakes they made and what they cleaned up and how those charges appeared on PRdave's card and i will stfu. But for some very weird unknown reason he refuses to do this. He prefers to let everyone think they did it. Don't ask me why.

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15472023)
are we at 150 yet?

Not quite, but I'm getting bored. I was originally annoyed, but now I'm just bored.

stickyfingerz 02-10-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15472028)
Then let's end it. Deejne is gonna explain what mistakes they made and what they cleaned up and how those charges appeared on PRdave's card and i will stfu. But for some very weird unknown reason he refuses to do this. He prefers to let everyone think they did it. Don't ask me why.

Maybe you need to go back and reread the thread? :2 cents:

DarkJedi 02-10-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Who is www.yourtech101.com.. stop banging my card

I just checked my statement and just got a ton of charges from these guys...

If you go there it is impossible to cancel or get any info since it is a bogus charge.

Registrant:
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands

Domain Name: YOURTECH101.COM
Created on: 16-Sep-08
Expires on: 16-Sep-09
Last Updated on: 16-Sep-08

Administrative Contact:
Sordid Ones BV, Sordid Ones BV [email protected]
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands
255522754 Fax --

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 15472028)
Then let's end it. Deejne is gonna explain what mistakes they made and what they cleaned up and how those charges appeared on PRdave's card and i will stfu. But for some very weird unknown reason he refuses to do this. He prefers to let everyone think they did it. Don't ask me why.

HAY UHH GUYS UHHH I LOST UHH BUT THIS GUY SAID SOMETHING I THeeheeHENNK MAY BE SUSSPECT HEY GUYS PAY ATTENTION TO ME... GUYS? guys? Hello?

D Ghost 02-10-2009 07:06 PM

does everyone need a lesson in how to Read what was already stated previously in this thread regarding the false accusations.... or are certain people just going to ignore our answers so they can continue their wetdream quest to be a hero...?

DarkJedi 02-10-2009 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15472022)
No that's false. Please provide proof.... :)

http://www.just blow me.com/showthread.php?t=100915


note to mods: linking with no intention to steal GFY members, but to provide proof

DarkJedi 02-10-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Who is www.yourtech101.com.. stop banging my card

I just checked my statement and just got a ton of charges from these guys...

If you go there it is impossible to cancel or get any info since it is a bogus charge.


www.yourtech101.com
Registrant:
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands

Domain Name: YOURTECH101.COM
Created on: 16-Sep-08
Expires on: 16-Sep-09
Last Updated on: 16-Sep-08

Administrative Contact:
Sordid Ones BV, Sordid Ones BV [email protected]
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands
255522754 Fax --



www.archivecash.com
Registrant:
Sordid Ones BV
26B Dokweg
Ijmuiden, Noord Holland 1976A
Cyprus

Domain Name: ARCHIVECASH.COM
Created on: 18-Jan-07
Expires on: 18-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 19-Jan-08

Administrative Contact:
SORDID ONES BV, SORDID ONES BV [email protected]
SORDID ONES BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJMUIDEN, Noord Holland 1976A
Cyprus
4152387657 Fax --

john_63 02-10-2009 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15472035)
Registrant:
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands

Domain Name: YOURTECH101.COM
Created on: 16-Sep-08
Expires on: 16-Sep-09
Last Updated on: 16-Sep-08

Administrative Contact:
Sordid Ones BV, Sordid Ones BV [email protected]
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands
255522754 Fax --

shut the fuck up and down. roboform did this to us.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_63 (Post 15472070)
shut the fuck up and down. roboform did this to us.

No no, that's a charge from a program that sold an xsell to a former employee who worked for this other company once and roboformed another xsell.

Just bad luck it's a domain from Archivecash and sitting on their server. BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. I REPEAT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

BusterBunny 02-10-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 15472031)
Not quite, but I'm getting bored. I was originally annoyed, but now I'm just bored.

i ate at quiznos today perhaps that will help get you back to annoyed status:winkwink:

Dirty F 02-10-2009 07:12 PM

It's a dutch address in Cyprus hahah

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15472078)
i ate at quiznos today perhaps that will help get you back to annoyed status:winkwink:

Really? What'd you get? I like their toasted subs. Stopped eating them for awhile because of those roadkill-with-mouths commercials.

D Ghost 02-10-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones (Post 15472065)
www.yourtech101.com
Registrant:
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands

Domain Name: YOURTECH101.COM
Created on: 16-Sep-08
Expires on: 16-Sep-09
Last Updated on: 16-Sep-08

Administrative Contact:
Sordid Ones BV, Sordid Ones BV [email protected]
Sordid Ones BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJmuiden 1976CA
Netherlands
255522754 Fax --



www.archivecash.com
Registrant:
Sordid Ones BV
26B Dokweg
Ijmuiden, Noord Holland 1976A
Cyprus

Domain Name: ARCHIVECASH.COM
Created on: 18-Jan-07
Expires on: 18-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 19-Jan-08

Administrative Contact:
SORDID ONES BV, SORDID ONES BV [email protected]
SORDID ONES BV
Dokweg 27 B
IJMUIDEN, Noord Holland 1976A
Cyprus
4152387657 Fax --

Again, I tell you to READ>>>>>

Originally Posted by fuzebox View Post
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Dirty F 02-10-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15472022)
No that's false. Please provide proof.... :)

Stop lying. The charge appeared as a domain from Archivecash.

You lie a lot. That's not so nice.

GrouchyAdmin 02-10-2009 07:15 PM

I hear DJ once apologized for ordering a sandwhich. He's part of the pizza cartel. Confirm/Deny?

Dirty F 02-10-2009 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 15472105)
Again, I tell you to READ>>>>>

Originally Posted by fuzebox View Post
You don't understand how xsells work within nats. Once you have the codes setup anyone can send anyone xsells without verification.

If I signed up to one of your paysites with a stolen credit card, could I accuse you of banging stolen credit cards?

The fact is someone was exploiting the trust between programs to double charge members and charge stolen credit cards, while sneaking those in with legit charges so they were impossible to detect. It's over now, all those companies learned their lessons, the parties who don't want to work together anymore are not.

Why don't you out these people and clear your name? Show us all proof of what they did and make sure noone works with them again.

Why don't you? What's stopping you? Unless you do this all the bad shit will point your way.


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