Tube sites make no money. (business thread) - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

marcjacob · 02-07-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy

It's amazing how much out of touch with reality people can get.
Smoked too much weed, huh?
I suggest you get sober and then check your bank account again.

Because youve seen his bank balance? Thought not

Far-L · 02-07-2009, 01:14 PM

Apparently there a quite a few people here that are forgetting to run this thread through the BSinator... then filtering the results through the Experiencematron...

HorseShit · 02-07-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Apparently there a quite a few people here that are forgetting to run this thread through the BSinator... then filtering the results through the Experiencematron...

who are you referring to?

Nicky · 02-07-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy

It's amazing how much out of touch with reality people can get.
Smoked too much weed, huh?
I suggest you get sober and then check your bank account again.

I'm pretty sure he meant to say $3000 though instead of 3000k :P

Far-L · 02-07-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

who are you referring to?

Well... I would love to answer that but everyone on Team Homegrown always gets nervous when I start doing things like that so please understand if I don't get specific. Hopefully those that might be influenced to make a business decision based on the information in this thread will run their own tests and dial in the successes or failures of any traffic source on the detriments or merits of their own content, products, services, etc.

imo, everyone needs to keep in mind that for everyone ready to give honest helpful advice there is someone else trying to keep others down by misdirection and subterfuge.

INever · 02-07-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorSinAlot

tube sites make money
When i came out with hoodtube in three months was bringing in 3000k net.
Freakytube did well also. Ghettotube is off to a good start. You can make money. I am sure some people dont make money with blogs and some people do. Its how you market, niche etc

Nice tube, did you get permission from Don Cornelius to do the Soul Train video as your feature vid with the song playing for each visitor? And I could see a man's back sliced in half but I have to register to see a titty fuck vid?

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox

bv, what are your top 3 affiliate sales vehicles?

TGP/MGP sites pushing my FHG
Review Sites
Blogs

pocketkangaroo · 02-07-2009, 02:14 PM

All I know about tubes is that a few of the big ones were begging people to buy them. RedTube made it very clear that they wanted to be sold and fast.

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Oh wow .. apparently I make no money from my legal tube.

Thanks for letting me know.

you make money from the paysite sponsors or your cam & dating sites

what's your site? let me see

BlackCrayon · 02-07-2009, 02:17 PM

Do you people read? He is saying they don't covert for his paysite. If you are pushing dating or cams on tubes, that is a different story. He is not talking about that.

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Do you people read? He is saying they don't covert for his paysite. If you are pushing dating or cams on tubes, that is a different story. He is not talking about that.

Thank You

this is correct

I show very very few affiliate sales coming from tubes.

Sorry to bring the bad news but this business model sucks.

I will continue to supply hosted flvs but I can tell you that it is not a great way to make money based on my sales reports and who is making sales for me and from where.

This is fact.

teomaxxx · 02-07-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

All I know about tubes is that a few of the big ones were begging people to buy them. RedTube made it very clear that they wanted to be sold and fast.

while nobody bought them. Some of them simply copied web 2.0 model - to grow as fast and as much as possible and then to exit via sell.
the real monetization of traffic would be on purchaser - at least thats what I read here in interview with some big boss (playboy entertaiment?), who got proposal from owners of xtube or "sometube" like this - they asked for 20 milions, while still operating in loss

and did someone actually bought RedTube? i guess noone.

mynameisjim · 02-07-2009, 02:29 PM

Wow, it only took two pages to clear up that he was saying tube sites don't generate income for a paysite, not the tube site itself. Even though it was stated clearly in the first post.

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Wow, it only took two pages to clear up that he was saying tube sites don't generate income for a paysite, not the tube site itself. Even though it was stated clearly in the first post.

thank you, yes this is what i said in post 1

HorseShit · 02-07-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Do you people read? He is saying they don't covert for his paysite. If you are pushing dating or cams on tubes, that is a different story. He is not talking about that.

uh, read the thread title, it's general therefore we can give more general responses

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz

A lot of these sites have been online for years tho they are being backed for a reason.

the reason is they get free content from sponsor P (paysites) in order to make money from Sponsors C & D (camsites & dating sites)

mynameisjim · 02-07-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

uh, read the thread title, it's general therefore we can give more general responses

So if someone starts a thread titled "I'm dying here" and talks about financial problems you would tell them to call a paramedic.

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

uh, read the thread title, it's general therefore we can give more general responses

lol dude, the title is just to give you a general idea what the post is about

you have to read and comprehend the post

Adam_M · 02-07-2009, 02:52 PM

Hey BV,

Our tube converts very well with some content however we have never done well with anything soft or solo. The hardcore clips is what our surfers like and maybe thats affecting the way your stats look from tubes

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:53 PM

Another tid bit of information to put things in perspective.

Yesterday (Friday Feb 6, 2009) my pay sites almost reached 1000.00 in membership sales.

Not one of these sales was from a Tube Site affiliate.

And I am on a ton of tubes.

This is a fact.

BV · 02-07-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_WildCash

Hey BV,

Our tube converts very well with some content however we have never done well with anything soft or solo. The hardcore clips is what our surfers like and maybe thats affecting the way your stats look from tubes

What tube site are you referring too?

HorseShit · 02-07-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

Another tid bit of information to put things in perspective.

Yesterday (Friday Feb 6, 2009) my pay sites almost reached 1000.00 in membership sales.

Not one of these sales was from a Tube Site affiliate.

And I am on a ton of tubes.

This is a fact.

How long are the clips you offer to affiliates for tube use?

Adam_M · 02-07-2009, 03:00 PM

lubetube.com

bdld · 02-07-2009, 03:07 PM

i would stop offering the hosted flv's for tubes. the long term cost of over saturating your program is too big.

Davy · 02-07-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hankphone

The thing about tube sites is if I can blow my load without having to buy a membership, and I get new vids daily - why the fuck would I spend any money?

The more tube sites we get, the more it will spread to the paysites.
Micro-niches still have a future. The webmasters are busily shovelling their own graves. But that's fine. Finally they found something to screw themselves, and not their customers.

BV · 02-07-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

How long are the clips you offer to affiliates for tube use?

anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 minutes, i think most are in the 1:30 to 2 minute range

Davy · 02-07-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by marcjacob

Because youve seen his bank balance? Thought not

A look at his site should suffice every normal thinking person.

mynameisjim · 02-07-2009, 03:16 PM

The thing is, it's not just the paysites. They will get hurt first as is the case now. But eventually the big tubes will expose everyone to the various cams and dating sponsors leaving very little for the rest of you who think you are safe pushing those sites. Just give it time.

HorseShit · 02-07-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 minutes, i think most are in the 1:30 to 2 minute range

yeah, good luck making any money with those videos

BV · 02-07-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

yeah, good luck making any money with those videos

i make great money with them on the FHG's, and blogs

HorseShit · 02-07-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

i make great money with them on the FHG's, and blogs

exactly

Ozarkz · 02-07-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

in text your sig said 1989 - 2009 are you marty mcfly?

I didn't think 1989 was elite enough so I added a couple more years.

BV · 02-07-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_WildCash

lubetube.com

That's a decent looking Tube

However what is the ratio of your paysite sales versus dating sales?

Logic tells me that it's not very good for the paysites.

Because with your logic Softcore does not sell that well, and I can see and agree with that.

But if Sofcore sales suffer greatly then the hardcore sales have to be suffering also. I mean they can't be unaffected and immune to this business model can they?

FYI: bvbucks does have 1 HC site with tube clips. http://www.bvbucks.com/flash/?affil_id=1352409&cat=5

HorseShit · 02-07-2009, 03:38 PM

I'm done with this thread, if you want to discuss why tubes aren't working for you hit me up on ICQ in private and I'll school you for free sometime

LeRoy · 02-07-2009, 03:39 PM

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Dating and live cam sites are cashing in on it though.

And it will for a long time. Live sex is where its at

My tube site never monetized but my cam stuff is doing well.

IllTestYourGirls · 02-07-2009, 03:42 PM

How many type-in sales did you get? And did that number go up since you started being promoted on tubes?

Adam_M · 02-07-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

That's a decent looking Tube

However what is the ratio of your paysite sales versus dating sales?

Logic tells me that it's not very good for the paysites.

Because with your logic Softcore does not sell that well, and I can see and agree with that.

But if Sofcore sales suffer greatly then the hardcore sales have to be suffering also. I mean they can't be unaffected and immune to this business model can they?

FYI: bvbucks does have 1 HC site with tube clips. http://www.bvbucks.com/flash/?affil_id=1352409&cat=5

Your right in saying dating does better then the paysites but the paysites are doing a good amount of sales and converting from 1:1000 This is not an amazing ratio but very good from a site with "bulky" traffic.

I just think different concepts work for some things and not others. Soft and solo don't convert from our tube the same way hardcore won't convert from a pornstar or glam traffic sites.

I think we need to review your sites though! ReviewPorn.com will do great with your sites

HomerSimpson · 02-07-2009, 04:22 PM

I sign everything what BV said!

RogerV · 02-07-2009, 07:52 PM

my tube is doing good selling GetRichInPorn.com I havnt added cams or dating to it yet

www.Gotvideos.com

Barefootsies · 02-07-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

well judging for how you are equating success it obvious you are doing it wrong
let me guess
you are giving away short ass clips
and counting the sales that come in thru the join links that are on each one of the host pages.

when you should be giving away long clips
verbally and visually branding your site
and counting the increased type in traffic.

..and what in the fuck would you know about the online business in ANY capacity?

Nigga please.

Go back to your perception of copyright, time shifting, trouble making, bullshit threads where you belong troll. Maybe you can incite some more arguments and cause more mischief. That is what you really like doing. Which is your only purpose for being on this board.

Leave business on the board to people actually IN this business.

Barefootsies · 02-07-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Apparently there a quite a few people here that are forgetting to run this thread through the BSinator... then filtering the results through the Experiencematron...

Exactly.

A good percentage in this thread are not even in this industry full time. Just board trolls.

fris · 02-07-2009, 08:14 PM

tube sites have always done well for me

fatfoo · 02-07-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveSandra

fuck the tube

Agreed...

ladida · 02-07-2009, 08:45 PM

Advertising spots on tubes are damn expensive, yet they get bought up. 30 to 60k a pop...

Pleasurepays · 02-07-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

the question is how many would there still be if prepaid ads disappeared tomorrow.

uhm... so you're suggesting that tube sites exist or are viable only because misguided, mathematically challenged people are prepaying ads well in advance before finding out the traffic is garbage and that they've been had and somehow word just isn't getting out... and that is the reason they thrived for several years now?

what the hell do you think is happening??? are these people pre-paying for ads for 10 years in advance under some sort of contract that they just can't back out of?

i can't believe you guys are actually serious.

its so bizarre that so many people just can't accept the fact that tube sites do well and convert traffic.

AtlantisCash · 02-07-2009, 09:37 PM

if Dating and Webcam sites make money, then You can't say it doesn't make money.

BV · 02-07-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

uhm... so you're suggesting that tube sites exist or are viable only because misguided, mathematically challenged people are prepaying ads well in advance before finding out the traffic is garbage and that they've been had and somehow word just isn't getting out... and that is the reason they thrived for several years now?

what the hell do you think is happening??? are these people pre-paying for ads for 10 years in advance under some sort of contract that they just can't back out of?

i can't believe you guys are actually serious.

its so bizarre that so many people just can't accept the fact that tube sites do well and convert traffic.

i assume you are referring to tube sites with full scenes (licensed or maybe not)
the add space being sold on that style tube is not what this thread is about

however i will say that that business model also sucks for the paysites thats content is being used in order to build that amount of traffic

this thread is more about sponsor vid tube sites and how they don't send any sales to speak of to the sponsors, most of the money being made by these tube site operators is from dating and cam sponsors

BV · 02-07-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash

if Dating and Webcam sites make money, then You can't say it doesn't make money.

You're not the brightest are you?

AtlantisCash · 02-07-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

uh, read the thread title, it's general therefore we can give more general responses

Agreed, The thread title says "Tube sites make no money".

AtlantisCash · 02-07-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

You're not the brightest are you?

Read Your post's contradiction to Thread title You made, if You can Mr. Fucking brilliant

02-07-2009, 01:14 PM	#52
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02-07-2009, 02:17 PM	#60
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	Do you people read? He is saying they don't covert for his paysite. If you are pushing dating or cams on tubes, that is a different story. He is not talking about that. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

02-07-2009, 02:29 PM	#63
mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	Wow, it only took two pages to clear up that he was saying tube sites don't generate income for a paysite, not the tube site itself. Even though it was stated clearly in the first post. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

02-07-2009, 02:52 PM	#69
Adam_M Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,800	Hey BV, Our tube converts very well with some content however we have never done well with anything soft or solo. The hardcore clips is what our surfers like and maybe thats affecting the way your stats look from tubes __________________ DiscountedPorn.Com ReviewedPorn.com

02-07-2009, 03:00 PM	#73
Adam_M Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,800	lubetube.com __________________ DiscountedPorn.Com ReviewedPorn.com

02-07-2009, 02:14 PM	#58
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	All I know about tubes is that a few of the big ones were begging people to buy them. RedTube made it very clear that they wanted to be sold and fast.

02-07-2009, 02:53 PM	#70
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Another tid bit of information to put things in perspective. Yesterday (Friday Feb 6, 2009) my pay sites almost reached 1000.00 in membership sales. Not one of these sales was from a Tube Site affiliate. And I am on a ton of tubes. This is a fact.

02-07-2009, 03:07 PM	#74
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	i would stop offering the hosted flv's for tubes. the long term cost of over saturating your program is too big.

02-07-2009, 03:16 PM	#78
mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	The thing is, it's not just the paysites. They will get hurt first as is the case now. But eventually the big tubes will expose everyone to the various cams and dating sponsors leaving very little for the rest of you who think you are safe pushing those sites. Just give it time. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

02-07-2009, 03:38 PM	#84
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	I'm done with this thread, if you want to discuss why tubes aren't working for you hit me up on ICQ in private and I'll school you for free sometime

02-07-2009, 03:42 PM	#86
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02-07-2009, 07:52 PM	#89
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	my tube is doing good selling GetRichInPorn.com I havnt added cams or dating to it yet www.Gotvideos.com

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02-07-2009, 08:45 PM	#94
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02-07-2009, 09:37 PM	#96
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