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donnylong 01-29-2009 12:39 AM

As a content producer that gives clients and fans what they want to see or own, and doing so inside of the law, I have many thoughts about the whole Max Hardcore issue.

I do not like his content personally but i am sure there are fans out there that do. The way I look at it is max took a niche that clients and or fans wanted to see or purchase and he produced it and sold it without breaking the law and got fucked and made a exsample out of all because of a closet whore.

If a female is over the age of 18 and wants to get pissed on called a whore that she is, and or have a screwdriver shoved up her twat to make a buck then thats her choice "Freedom of Speech" right?

The government has turned on us as a whole being united states citizens and now its just all about taking your money. Look at how much we all pay in taxes every year and what happen with gas prices. Some stupid closet whore didnt like seeing a girl getting degraded by max and max got fucked. What people seem to forget is whores sign up to get this shit done to them everyday and like it. Even the ones that dont like it still sign up to do it to pay there rent.

Do you have any idea how many whores call me saying i will do anal now because i am broke or i will do a black man now even though i hate them because i need the money. Sometimes they dont like anal and its hurts them but they dont care about anything more than that check because maybe sugar daddy for the week dumped her, who knows.

I look at this no different than a whore saying i will go to my non porn job today and make 8 bucks an hour doing whatever it might be that she does and might put her in pain and or make her do something that she doesnt want to do but she will because she needs the money. THATS LIFE PEOPLE!

I heard that the judge in max's case was a FUCKING FEMALE not sure about this but I wouldnt be surprised because i dont see a man doing this to a pornographer:2 cents:

I just found that the judge that denied Max Hardcore to Delay Prison Sentence till the appeal was a FEMALE. http://avnmag.avn.com/articles/33028.html That is 100% of the problem right there "FEMALE". I think he should have a miss trail just because of that
:2 cents:

I use to talk to this cunt that got paid like 10k a shoot and a million a year under a contract and she was a mainstream magazine model and she drove a Bentley and walked around like she was a god. We had a argument about how she is no better than a girl that makes money adult modeling or doing porn that her ass is still a piece off meet when she goes to work and puts that thong on for those pictures and bends over with her cleavage hanging out. MAYBE THATS WHY SHE DONT TALK TO ME ANYMORE :1orglaugh

I love it how its okay for big companies that have tons of money get away with putting a 15 or 16 year old on the front cover of a magazine in a bra and panties posing all sexy looking, with tons of whore makeup on as well like victoria secret did and thats ok but when a girl over the age of 18 asked to be pissed on and called a whore and a screwdriver put up her cunt to pay HER bills then thats not ok. :2 cents:

So you know why max got fucked?

Because of whores and money the 2 roots of all evil and with that said check out

http://ihatewhores.com/

:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

Drake 01-29-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 15405190)
LOL why no one mentions the fact that he put a screwdriver through a girl's pussy into her ass is beyond me.


When did that happen and which pornstar did it happen to?

donnylong 01-29-2009 02:49 AM

wow no childish flaming? :Oh crap

Mutt 01-29-2009 03:19 AM

who cares what a pornographer thinks, the government and 99% of society don't care. Obscenity laws, federal and state, have been on the books in the US since the 1800's - and been tested over and over again in the highest courts in the land - and they stand - accept it or move to a country where there are no obscenity laws - there probably are none. The definition of what's obscene changes with the times - and Max Hardcore went way over the line and he got nailed.

even in a culture where hardcore porn has become commonplace if you think the government is going to change/liberalize obscenity laws you are cukoo. if you are going to be pushing the envelope of 'hardcore pornography' you take the very real risk of going to jail - and it will be the same 100 years from now.

xxxjay 01-29-2009 03:32 AM

I personally like Max. I've never really watched any of hit moves.

Super nice guy though.

donnylong 01-29-2009 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15406536)
I personally like Max. I've never really watched any of hit moves.

Super nice guy though.

yes he is! :thumbsup

gooddomains 01-29-2009 06:35 AM

his porn flicks are one of the best around

Machete_ 01-29-2009 06:41 AM

"Paul is on the front line of the fight for Free Speech" uhhhm no!
More like he is in the front line skull-fucking you daughters to make a PROFIT

He is here to make MONEY like anyone else, anyone who believe differently is a idiot

tranza 01-29-2009 06:46 AM

That's a sad story...

Fletch XXX 01-29-2009 06:53 AM

max hardcore is not a martyr for everyone, you people act like he wrote a poem and got arrested, its reaching using him as an example of "free speech" - i believe he is in trouble for "mailing" something, just like Tommy Chong, Chong went to jail for mailing GLASS!

while i do not applaud his arrest, portraying him as a martyr for "adult internet" is not exactly the correct way to go about this.

JimmiDean 01-29-2009 07:03 AM

Its a sad day,
And I wish Max all the best in his continuing fight.
I would never be as brave as him to keep tickling the dragons tail....
Sooner or later it turns around.

Fletch XXX 01-29-2009 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15406135)
sold it without breaking the law and got fucked and made a exsample out of all because of a closet whore.

with your "hate for whores" aside, blaming this on talent is another stretch of the truth. what max did, he did alone, do not try and blame the talent. ive known many girls whove done shoots for him... and talked to them about their experience. blaming them for his legal troubles is hilarious.

Mutt 01-29-2009 07:12 AM

is it true JadedVideo sold him out and cut a deal with the feds? That's low - and look, all the hardcore porn studios still doing business with JadedVideo.

u-Bob 01-29-2009 07:15 AM

Free the Colon Cowboy! :)

TisMe 01-29-2009 08:21 AM

Those posting that Max went "over the line" are complete idiots and should really consider asking Santa for a brain this year.

Doesn't matter that he went over your line, or mine, whats critical is that by agreeing with the decision you accept the right and competence of that person or group to SET a line.

Next month, or year, when they decide that whatever you do is over the line, remember that YOU gave them your acceptance of their qualifications to do so.

Gay porn being ruled "over the line" is not at all far fetched when you consider the power of the religious lunatics in this country. They've already done this repeatedly with Gay marriage.

Short sighted business people have short lived businesses.

Machete_ 01-29-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TisMe (Post 15407354)
Those posting that Max went "over the line" are complete idiots and should really consider asking Santa for a brain this year.

Doesn't matter that he went over your line, or mine, whats critical is that by agreeing with the decision you accept the right and competence of that person or group to SET a line.

Next month, or year, when they decide that whatever you do is over the line, remember that YOU gave them your acceptance of their qualifications to do so.

Gay porn being ruled "over the line" is not at all far fetched when you consider the power of the religious lunatics in this country. They've already done this repeatedly with Gay marriage.

Short sighted business people have short lived businesses.

I'm sorry, but you are naive.
Max did what he did, to make money and to provoke, and now he is playing this "they are throwing me in jail" card for all its worth.

People making content like that, ask for trouble - just like GGW and bumfights.

topnotch, standup guy 01-29-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15406503)
who cares what a pornographer thinks, the government and 99% of society don't care. Obscenity laws, federal and state, have been on the books in the US since the 1800's - and been tested over and over again in the highest courts in the land - and they stand - accept it or move to a country where there are no obscenity laws - there probably are none. The definition of what's obscene changes with the times - and Max Hardcore went way over the line and he got nailed.

even in a culture where hardcore porn has become commonplace if you think the government is going to change/liberalize obscenity laws you are cukoo. if you are going to be pushing the envelope of 'hardcore pornography' you take the very real risk of going to jail - and it will be the same 100 years from now.

You are forgetting sir that the American electorate has cast out the Christian Theocracy that had been "governing" the country these past eight years.

Admittedly, freedom of speech was not what this election was about, but the fuddy duddy's have been shown the door nonetheless :thumbsup

Now perhaps the DOJ will busy itself by pursuing terrorists and such.

TisMe 01-29-2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15407392)
I'm sorry, but you are naive.
Max did what he did, to make money and to provoke, and now he is playing this "they are throwing me in jail" card for all its worth.

People making content like that, ask for trouble - just like GGW and bumfights.

Not being naive at all, I have no questions about why Max did what he did. He tried to make money, which is the main reason anyone goes into any business.

My problem here is that so many in this business get upset over someone else making content that goes over their line, without realizing that almost ALL porn goes over someone's line.

PAR 01-29-2009 10:03 AM

I've always like Max great guy to talk to.. I wish Max all the best..

As for his content..
You can say what you want about it... But I'll say this, if it all boils down to a personal view of some elses interpretation of a law that has no real hard fast definition of what is or what is not obscene and that law can also be warped be local/municial law.

Then there will be much more railroaded by the injustice of the federal government to come...

Any law with no clear definition is no better then no law at all, as it can be used for selective prosicution and little defence can be mounted to fight it.

dyna mo 01-29-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15407392)
I'm sorry, but you are naive.
Max did what he did, to make money and to provoke, and now he is playing this "they are throwing me in jail" card for all its worth.

People making content like that, ask for trouble - just like GGW and bumfights.

no reason to be sorry for making an intelligent comment.

bottomline- there is a line re: obscenity. before it was vague, we now know where it lies.

Machete_ 01-29-2009 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 15407843)
I've always like Max great guy to talk to.. I wish Max all the best..

As for his content..
You can say what you want about it... But I'll say this, if it all boils down to a personal view of some elses interpretation of a law that has no real hard fast definition of what is or what is not obscene and that law can also be warped be local/municial law.

Then there will be much more railroaded by the injustice of the federal government to come...

Any law with no clear definition is no better then no law at all, as it can be used for selective prosicution and little defence can be mounted to fight it.


It's ALL about the content - dont make it in to being about injustice of the federal government. It's about a old dude facefucking 18yo till they puke, and using titels like "Extreme Schoolgirls 11" dessing them up to appear underaged, Fisting, pissing, anal gapers and gag fucking - THAT is what its about

pornguy 01-29-2009 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 15405181)
The problem with living life on the edge, is sometimes you fall.

Ooooh and that gravity, it's a killer.

You SIR, are WRONG!!!! it has nothing to do with Gravity. Its all about the sudden stop at the bottom.

JFK 01-29-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15407033)
max hardcore is not a martyr for everyone, you people act like he wrote a poem and got arrested, its reaching using him as an example of "free speech" - i believe he is in trouble for "mailing" something, just like Tommy Chong, Chong went to jail for mailing GLASS!

while i do not applaud his arrest, portraying him as a martyr for "adult internet" is not exactly the correct way to go about this.

YES, its the mailing thing , but it was NOT mailed by him, it's just his product.:2 cents:

JP-pornshooter 01-29-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15407880)
It's ALL about the content - dont make it in to being about injustice of the federal government. It's about a old dude facefucking 18yo till they puke, and using titels like "Extreme Schoolgirls 11" dessing them up to appear underaged, Fisting, pissing, anal gapers and gag fucking - THAT is what its about

my guess is you are not american.
free speech is one of the most and highly protected american rights, similar to the rights to bear arms.
free speech is free speech is free speech end of story..

dyna mo 01-29-2009 11:49 AM

can't yell fire in a crowded theater, so no, free speech is not free speech. there is a line.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-29-2009 11:55 AM

Well, I am pretty much against Videos portraying Incest, Underage sex and Violent gang rape.

For you guys that say "Oh I do not support his videos or like what Max Does but..." is a cheap cop out from people that never even saw Maxhardcore movies.

And yes Community Standards got him, he is lucky a father or boyfriend of one of the girls he legally raped didnt get em first.


Good bye Max...
I hope they throw the fucking key away and you rot in prison till yer last breath.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-29-2009 12:02 PM

Reality is the ruling should have sent Max to a fucking Asylum for some intense Psychotherapy. Just because a video camara is in the room does not make the shit that goes down legal.

donnylong 01-29-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15407880)
It's ALL about the content - dont make it in to being about injustice of the federal government. It's about a old dude facefucking 18yo till they puke, and using titels like "Extreme Schoolgirls 11" dessing them up to appear underaged, Fisting, pissing, anal gapers and gag fucking - THAT is what its about

but your forgetting these whores signed up and asked to have this done to them and a lot of them like it. Also a lot of fans like that just like you might like something else. Doesnt make it wrong or illegal just because you might not like it or the next guy or the FEMALE JUDGE that did this to Max.

dyna mo 01-29-2009 01:19 PM

jury found him guilty, not a judge. fyi

donnylong 01-29-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15407086)
with your "hate for whores" aside, blaming this on talent is another stretch of the truth. what max did, he did alone, do not try and blame the talent. ive known many girls whove done shoots for him... and talked to them about their experience. blaming them for his legal troubles is hilarious.

I dont blame anyone but the female judge that did like what max does. How would you like it if a judge that thought somewhat like myself put you in jail for watching or making gay porn? Would that be a fair judgment?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-29-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15408820)
but your forgetting these whores signed up and asked to have this done to them and a lot of them like it.

Uhh...

Dude. You should read more about this.
There are many many girls out there that have said otherwise, many many girls that were so traumatised they left the industry running...

And just because these "Whores" sign a little piece of paper does not mean attrocious crimes can be brought down upon them when the camara is rolling. Most of these so called uhh.. "Whores" had no idea what they were getting into and believed they had to do it so they can get in the industry.

fuzebox 01-29-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TisMe (Post 15407685)
My problem here is that so many in this business get upset over someone else making content that goes over their line, without realizing that almost ALL porn goes over someone's line.

Well said :thumbsup

I wonder how many people know that John Stagliano is facing similar charges and jail time for a milk enema dvd.

hypedough 01-29-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 15406536)
I personally like Max. I've never really watched any of hit moves.

Super nice guy though.


The biggest scumbags I've known in this business were real nice to everyone in public.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-29-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15408888)
Well said :thumbsup

I wonder how many people know that John Stagliano is facing similar charges and jail time for a milk enema dvd.

Well I hope he comes through fine.

He is not shooting Simulated Incest or Simulated Rape or Simulated Underage Sex is he? No John does not operate that way.
I am firmly against any of that sort of media. It teaches people abnormal sexual behavior and is most often hurtful to the models that participate in stuff like that. Max got off lucky, he should have been put before a firing squad.

John is going to be a free man even if he were to plead guilty LOL!

donnylong 01-29-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 15408863)
Uhh...

Dude. You should read more about this.
There are many many girls out there that have said otherwise, many many girls that were so traumatised they left the industry running...

And just because these "Whores" sign a little piece of paper does not mean attrocious crimes can be brought down upon them when the camara is rolling. Most of these so called uhh.. "Whores" had no idea what they were getting into and believed they had to do it so they can get in the industry.

do you deal with all the talent in Los Angeles everyday and fuck them and film them and write them checks? NO I do though so when i say something its from experience so when I say its the "WHORES" FAULT. IT IS
WHORES LIE end of story

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-29-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15409054)
do you deal with all the talent in Los Angeles everyday

Yes I did.:1orglaugh

Not ALL the talent mind you...
But enough to know some of the thoughts many girls had about MaxHardcore.

Every model I ever shot I gave the utmost respect and dignity in the work they performed.
They deserve respect and dignity for what they do.

These "Whores" you fuck put thier life on the line for guys like you, for guys like Max and its rather disgusting to think about the way many of you so called producers treat them.

PS: For the way you run your mouth around there, you are lucky to be alive.

nation-x 01-29-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15407033)
max hardcore is not a martyr for everyone, you people act like he wrote a poem and got arrested, its reaching using him as an example of "free speech" - i believe he is in trouble for "mailing" something, just like Tommy Chong, Chong went to jail for mailing GLASS!

while i do not applaud his arrest, portraying him as a martyr for "adult internet" is not exactly the correct way to go about this.

My thoughts exactly... Max is no martyr... he is a fucking dumbass who made his money catering to sick fucks. There is plenty of money to go around... he chose his own path. Nice guy my ass.

nation-x 01-29-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong (Post 15408820)
but your forgetting these whores signed up and asked to have this done to them and a lot of them like it. Also a lot of fans like that just like you might like something else. Doesnt make it wrong or illegal just because you might not like it or the next guy or the FEMALE JUDGE that did this to Max.

yeah... blame it on the talent and the female judge... you an idiot too.

donnylong 01-29-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 15409067)
Yes I did.:1orglaugh

Not ALL the talent mind you...
But enough to know some of the thoughts many girls had about MaxHardcore.

Every model I ever shot I gave the utmost respect and dignity in the work they performed.
They deserve respect and dignity for what they do.

These "Whores" you fuck put thier life on the line for guys like you, for guys like Max and its rather disgusting to think about the way many of you so called producers treat them.

PS: For the way you run your mouth around there, you are lucky to be alive.

respect and dignity???????? WTF planet are you on? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
my whole office is on the floor dieing laughing :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

They threw there dignity right the fuck out the window when they walked into this business with there legs spread.

firecracker 01-29-2009 03:44 PM

Why don't we have a small (or larger) group supporting us on capital hill? There are people who aren't afraid of the main stream, so lets have the top pron people write up what guidelines the majority can agree to, and feel morally OK at night... so we can not worry about what "they" think is right or wrong... (just a thought)


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