Why did iBill process my VISA rebills on the 15th? - GoFuckYourself.com

pet kangaroo · 11-15-2002, 07:28 PM

I thought the new regulations came into force on the 15th of November. I'm based in Australia, registered with iBill on the understanding they couldn't process VISA from the 15th onwards. I confirmed this with my sales rep, contacted all the effected subscribers and then find out the rebills were processed anyway.

quiet · 11-15-2002, 07:31 PM

interesting

d00t · 11-15-2002, 10:17 PM

if you completed a visa registration form, and don't reside in usa, it appears you're in the clear for any fee's and visa rebills continue as usual.

WendyB · 11-15-2002, 10:32 PM

Those non USA located iBill webmasters who completed the required registration should be looking over their shoulders.

Now that VISA knows you are outside the US, the next major announcement will want to cancel those webmasters who don't have a usa business presence.

SpeakEasy · 11-15-2002, 11:23 PM

They may have rebilled the surfer, but you have not seen the money yet??.....could be yet another scam by the 3rd party processors??.....don't think for 1 minute they wouldnt keep the money for themselves and give you some bull shit excuse to not pay you???...

daddynastee · 11-15-2002, 11:52 PM

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Why did iBill process my VISA rebills on the 15th

New law of the secular world: "If it's fuckupable -- iBill will do it."

pet kangaroo · 11-16-2002, 01:14 AM

Just checked and my VISA re-bills for the 16th are starting to be transacted also. I'm stuffed if I know what's going on now.

I also checked and they're still processing new subscriptions using VISA.

I'd love to hear from any other non U.S & European iBill & CCbill clients to see what's happening with them.

pr0 · 11-16-2002, 01:16 AM

Maybe it was the biggest joke of all time?

merlin · 11-16-2002, 01:24 AM

I am an AU webmaster and confirm IBILL processed visa rebills on 15 & 16 for my account too.

Have changed main processing to Glo-bill but left old rebills with IBILL thinking they may continue rebills on Mastercard and Checks... but not VISA.

Weird shit!

The Other Steve · 11-16-2002, 03:17 AM

Well the last I heard was that Ibill and CCBill could not establish whatever they needed to establish with an Australian bank.

They could do it in Europe but not here in Australia.

We wrote to CCBill on November 1 instructing them to stop rebilling because we had moved to Globill. Of course they took no notice and kept right on doing it.

However we got an email from them yesterday saying that they would no longer be able to rebill Visa for us so perhaps what someone else suggested further up the thread may be right.

You may not see your money.

Master_Yoba · 11-16-2002, 04:11 AM

hehe.. US webmasters paid for $750. Simply they should donate some dollars to VISA USA and republicans.
Be ready for Mastercard contribution

For other world nothing was changed

rodme_him · 11-16-2002, 09:48 AM

Canadian Webmaster, my rebills 15th & 16th are going through just fine, I called IBill this morning and I was told that because I am in Canada I don't have to pay the fees and that they will continue to process and New and rebill VISA transaction.

Going to call CCBill on Monday to find out what they are doing.

Just thought I would let you all know, but IMHO only US based webmasters had to pay the fee, because repeated phone calls to Canadian VISA got the response that they didn't know what I was talking about.

Rod

directfiesta · 11-16-2002, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by rodme_him
Canadian Webmaster, my rebills 15th & 16th are going through just fine, I called IBill this morning and I was told that because I am in Canada I don't have to pay the fees and that they will continue to process and New and rebill VISA transaction.

Hadn;t they all said they could NOT process after the 15th....
I went ahead to do a US corporation and paid their ransom money ( 750.00) ! This just to keep my rebills.

Will really get pissed if they did not need this for Canada.

I will really activate http://www.ibillsucks.info that I own!

Rod

directfiesta · 11-16-2002, 11:03 AM

Maybe I will do a chargeback on my Visa.....

rodme_him · 11-17-2002, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Hadn;t they all said they could NOT process after the 15th....
I went ahead to do a US corporation and paid their ransom money ( 750.00) ! This just to keep my rebills.

Will really get pissed if they did not need this for Canada.

I will really activate http://www.ibillsucks.info that I own!

Just so people know the above was not posted by me

Rod

Ian · 11-17-2002, 10:30 AM

Rod:

I paid the fee too and was told there was no way around it. I opened the LLC as well.

Very weird...

http://www.morecash.com

Niche heaven

pet kangaroo · 11-20-2002, 05:39 PM

Just confirmed with iBill that they're processing all non-US webmaster transactions through their European banking relationships. VISA is ok with this.

Therefore all rebills and new signups will continue to accept VISA until such a time as VISA won't allow it.

In the meantime, iBill is still attempting to commence banking relationships in other regions. (e.g. Australasia)

Glad I didn't rush out and register a U.S. or European entity

Shoplifter · 11-20-2002, 05:45 PM

And the winds of Ibill are blowing from another direction once again.

This is an actual photo of me now:

I have to say the words "Just confirmed with iBill" make me laugh uncontrollably.

kevinl · 11-21-2002, 03:24 AM

So this really was just a fucking put to US webmasters. That is bullshit.

Master_Yoba · 11-21-2002, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by kevinl
So this really was just a fucking put to US webmasters. That is bullshit.

11-15-2002, 07:28 PM	#1
pet kangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 246	Why did iBill process my VISA rebills on the 15th? I thought the new regulations came into force on the 15th of November. I'm based in Australia, registered with iBill on the understanding they couldn't process VISA from the 15th onwards. I confirmed this with my sales rep, contacted all the effected subscribers and then find out the rebills were processed anyway.

11-15-2002, 07:31 PM	#2
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	interesting __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

11-15-2002, 10:32 PM	#4
WendyB Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Woodinville Posts: 538	Those non USA located iBill webmasters who completed the required registration should be looking over their shoulders. Now that VISA knows you are outside the US, the next major announcement will want to cancel those webmasters who don't have a usa business presence. __________________ An act of kindness is a wonderful gift

11-16-2002, 01:16 AM	#8
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Maybe it was the biggest joke of all time? __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

11-16-2002, 03:17 AM	#10
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Well the last I heard was that Ibill and CCBill could not establish whatever they needed to establish with an Australian bank. They could do it in Europe but not here in Australia. We wrote to CCBill on November 1 instructing them to stop rebilling because we had moved to Globill. Of course they took no notice and kept right on doing it. However we got an email from them yesterday saying that they would no longer be able to rebill Visa for us so perhaps what someone else suggested further up the thread may be right. You may not see your money. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

11-15-2002, 10:17 PM	#3
d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	if you completed a visa registration form, and don't reside in usa, it appears you're in the clear for any fee's and visa rebills continue as usual.

11-15-2002, 11:23 PM	#5
SpeakEasy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Internet Posts: 2,681	They may have rebilled the surfer, but you have not seen the money yet??.....could be yet another scam by the 3rd party processors??.....don't think for 1 minute they wouldnt keep the money for themselves and give you some bull shit excuse to not pay you???...

11-16-2002, 01:14 AM	#7
pet kangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 246	Just checked and my VISA re-bills for the 16th are starting to be transacted also. I'm stuffed if I know what's going on now. I also checked and they're still processing new subscriptions using VISA. I'd love to hear from any other non U.S & European iBill & CCbill clients to see what's happening with them.

11-16-2002, 01:24 AM	#9
merlin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: OZ Posts: 97	I am an AU webmaster and confirm IBILL processed visa rebills on 15 & 16 for my account too. Have changed main processing to Glo-bill but left old rebills with IBILL thinking they may continue rebills on Mastercard and Checks... but not VISA. Weird shit!

11-16-2002, 04:11 AM	#11
Master_Yoba Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dagobah Posts: 1,273	hehe.. US webmasters paid for $750. Simply they should donate some dollars to VISA USA and republicans. Be ready for Mastercard contribution For other world nothing was changed __________________ WATCH MORE PORN Last edited by Master_Yoba; 11-16-2002 at 04:15 AM..

11-16-2002, 09:48 AM	#12
rodme_him Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 51	Canadian Webmaster, my rebills 15th & 16th are going through just fine, I called IBill this morning and I was told that because I am in Canada I don't have to pay the fees and that they will continue to process and New and rebill VISA transaction. Going to call CCBill on Monday to find out what they are doing. Just thought I would let you all know, but IMHO only US based webmasters had to pay the fee, because repeated phone calls to Canadian VISA got the response that they didn't know what I was talking about. Rod __________________ <center> <b>A good webmaster is a happy webmaster</b> </center>

11-16-2002, 11:03 AM	#14
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,796	Maybe I will do a chargeback on my Visa.....

11-17-2002, 10:30 AM	#16
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Rod: I paid the fee too and was told there was no way around it. I opened the LLC as well. Very weird... http://www.morecash.com Niche heaven

11-20-2002, 05:39 PM	#17
pet kangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 246	Just confirmed with iBill that they're processing all non-US webmaster transactions through their European banking relationships. VISA is ok with this. Therefore all rebills and new signups will continue to accept VISA until such a time as VISA won't allow it. In the meantime, iBill is still attempting to commence banking relationships in other regions. (e.g. Australasia) Glad I didn't rush out and register a U.S. or European entity

11-20-2002, 05:45 PM	#18
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,739	And the winds of Ibill are blowing from another direction once again. This is an actual photo of me now: I have to say the words "Just confirmed with iBill" make me laugh uncontrollably. Last edited by Shoplifter; 11-20-2002 at 05:49 PM..

11-21-2002, 03:24 AM	#19
kevinl Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US Posts: 261	So this really was just a fucking put to US webmasters. That is bullshit. __________________ kevinl