Holy Fuck! Miss Cleo made $1 Billion in 3 years! - GoFuckYourself.com

Brown Bear · 11-14-2002, 03:16 PM

Remember these late night infomercials?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...o_settlement_6

It never ceases to amaze me how many stupid people there are in this world. People actually phone in to that and hand over their credit card info so they can hear some bullshit psychic mumbo jumbo. And not just a few people, but 6 million people!

These are the same people who think Bangbus is real. There is so much money to be made from the stupidity of the average person out there that it's scary.

pimplink · 11-14-2002, 03:17 PM

There's probably a lot of money to be made on how judgmental unforgiving and immature people could be, too

Webby · 11-14-2002, 03:30 PM

There has been a load of money pumped into promotion of this project - the results are kinda in proportion...

reddawg · 11-14-2002, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
There has been a load of money pumped into promotion of this project - the results are kinda in proportion...

True, but hardly can be propotionate.

All the important facts are here http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=88197

Marcus · 11-14-2002, 04:03 PM

If anyone wants to start a psychic chat line I'm in

Brown Bear · 11-14-2002, 04:11 PM

I love uneducated moron fucks with credit cards, you could sell them anything. Those infomercials were so rediculous.

Marcus · 11-14-2002, 04:14 PM

A male friend of mine used to do phone sex and say he was a female, he had a voice changer thing that made him sound like a bitchy old lady.

He'd get a lot of requests from guys who were into shemales and men who wanted to fuck their own mother

lamrobertson · 11-14-2002, 04:21 PM

lol I contributed to that 1 billion! I worked as a Virtual Operator for Miss Cleo. The companies name is actually Psychic Readers Network. and no I didn't take work as a Psychic, I took calls and forwarded them to the psychics. You wouldn't believe the number of people that called in, it was unreal. The FCC went after PRN because they had some psychics that were frauds. Some of the psychics had some really deceptive tricks to keep the callers on the line. Some even tried to extort money from the callers. The business just got too big and out of control. The owner, Steve Feder actually contracted out to other companies to hire operators and psychics. Once he did that he started losing control over who was hired and what they were doing on the phone.

I am sure that the company that runs those late night phone sex commercials is probably making the same kinds of money. Its amazing the masses of people that you can reach using television advertising.

Lorna

Brown Bear · 11-14-2002, 04:29 PM

What a fuckin joke, I can just picture a room with about 50 "psychics" sitting at workstations talking to people on the phone and feeding them bullshit. Typical topics like love, career/money, health, etc...

People just want to believe in anything, Jesus, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, psychics, it's all the same. Sooooo many people in this world are too quick to believe anything they see or hear.

quiet · 11-14-2002, 04:30 PM

now that's marketing....

playa · 11-14-2002, 04:33 PM

first thing i'd ask a psychic on the phone is what the color of my shirt was,, if it was wrong then i'd hang up,,

but then why talk to psychic to predict the future when it's gonna happen anyways?

TeraBabes · 11-14-2002, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
There is so much money to be made from the stupidity of the average person out there that it's scary.

Well said. Of all the people in the world, the group I respect the least is stupid people.

FlyingIguana · 11-14-2002, 04:36 PM

free tarot reading with your porn membership?

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Brown Bear · 11-14-2002, 04:36 PM

The thing that really blows my mind is that I bet a lot of the people who phoned in were doctors, lawyers, business people, etc... People that you would think would be smart enough to know that the whole thing is a sham, but they aren't.

Horny Dude · 11-14-2002, 04:38 PM

I wonder if she ever saw this coming! You would think she would have been better prepared. Maybe she should have called her own line and asked.

Brown Bear · 11-14-2002, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Horny Dude
I wonder if she ever saw this coming! You would think she would have been better prepared. Maybe she should have called her own line and asked.

Good point.

lamrobertson · 11-14-2002, 05:01 PM

Actually "She" is Steve Feder, the owner. Miss Cleo was paid to do commericials and act as a spokesperson for PRN. Miss Cleo never took psychic calls for PRN. It was amazing how many people would call and ask to speak to her. We always had to say something to the effect that she wasn't taking calls right now or was booked up, etc.

All these psychics and virtual operators worked from their homes. The operators signed into a website and calls were forwarded. You would get a script up depending on what number they had called. Since alot of the commericials were different. The psychics logged on using the phone. Once they were logged in, calls were routed to their phone numbers. As far as I know the psychics didn't have scripts. When someone was hired as a psychic they were asked to sign a statement saying they were psychic. And "some" (depending who hired them) did test calls. The test call consisted on actually giving a reading over the phone to the tester.

I actually owned my own virtual call center which was subscontracted under a company under the main company. lol I only employed virtual operators. And yes we did test them as well.

Lorna

slapass · 11-14-2002, 06:13 PM

Bang Bus is fake?

pentae · 11-14-2002, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
The thing that really blows my mind is that I bet a lot of the people who phoned in were doctors, lawyers, business people, etc... People that you would think would be smart enough to know that the whole thing is a sham, but they aren't.

BB That is so true. We're also forgetting these peoples STUPID blonde wives.

Danny_C · 11-14-2002, 07:06 PM

My conscience wouldn't let me work for a company that made millions ripping off stupid people.

lamrobertson · 11-14-2002, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C
My conscience wouldn't let me work for a company that made millions ripping off stupid people.

How would anyone working for the company know this? Until the FCC case no one knew anything. It was a good idea that got too big for one guy to control all aspects of the business.

There are alot of people that like to get psychic readings. PRN was simply providing a service that people wanted. Many of us here promote adult sponsers that we know the members area is terrible, others promote gambling sites. Some promote phone sex! All just providing a service that the consumer wants!

Lorna

Sunshine McGillicutty · 11-14-2002, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C
My conscience wouldn't let me work for a company that made millions ripping off stupid people.

Almost all forms of advertizing work by convincing people they need something they could do just as well without.

If most people were born with high degrees of self control and the ability to reflect on their impulses before acting on them, most modern advertizing methods would be useless.

pentae · 11-14-2002, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C
My conscience wouldn't let me work for a company that made millions ripping off stupid people.

What do you think the online porn industry is about?

Spoonie Luv · 11-14-2002, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by pimplink
There's probably a lot of money to be made on how judgmental unforgiving and immature people could be, too

let me know when you figure that out

Sunshine McGillicutty · 11-14-2002, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Spoonie Luv

let me know when you figure that out

Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and their ilk already have

Webby · 11-14-2002, 08:18 PM

Brown Bear:

*The thing that really blows my mind is that I bet a lot of the people who phoned in were doctors, lawyers, business people, etc... People that you would think would be smart enough to know that the whole thing is a sham, but they aren't.*

The clients cover a whole spectrum of society - just the same as adult site members and I'm sure many know this stuff is fake - they just wanna *believe* or with adult sites, fulfil a fantasy! *g*

Webby · 11-14-2002, 08:22 PM

Sunshine McGillicutty:

*Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and their ilk already have*

You hit the nail on the head!

Catering to the "wanna believes"! Shit, "Cleo" and Steve are angels in comparison! *lol*

dickblast · 11-14-2002, 08:35 PM

when they first were filing charges a lot of media ppl went around and interviewed the ppl who had been ripped

and the one thing the interviewer noticed which he pointed out was

every1 that he talked to talked about getting calls 5 times a day, etc etc

but noone actually said they didn't believe in psychics!

that blew my mind, but its totally true. these ppl just got mad cause they were taken for $500 bills not cuz they felt like the actual advice sucked

pimplink · 11-14-2002, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by Spoonie Luv

let me know when you figure that out

Its been done.... Jerry Springer Show and its ilk.

DTK · 11-14-2002, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
What a fuckin joke, I can just picture a room with about 50 "psychics" sitting at workstations talking to people on the phone and feeding them bullshit. Typical topics like love, career/money, health, etc...

People just want to believe in anything, Jesus, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, psychics, it's all the same. Sooooo many people in this world are too quick to believe anything they see or hear.

Don't disrespect the Easter Bunny

Wenchy · 11-14-2002, 11:15 PM

I thought the whole thing went to court because of their continued BS about "free" shit that wasn't really free at all... deceptive advertising or some such. Did I miss something?

Also, as someone who reads tarot (NO, I don't make money from it and I don't even read for other people!), I can tell you that some of the cards in some of the positions are always going to sound good. The key is in reading between the lines or, in the case of telephone psychics, the loose interpretation and conveyance of what's between the lines. It's really not that hard to make someone who WANTS to believe buy into whatever you want to feed them

Bobo · 11-14-2002, 11:19 PM

Wow 1 billion in 3 years. I'm going to stop selling crack and start selling psychic.

11-14-2002, 03:16 PM	#1
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Holy Fuck! Miss Cleo made $1 Billion in 3 years! Remember these late night infomercials? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...o_settlement_6 It never ceases to amaze me how many stupid people there are in this world. People actually phone in to that and hand over their credit card info so they can hear some bullshit psychic mumbo jumbo. And not just a few people, but 6 million people! These are the same people who think Bangbus is real. There is so much money to be made from the stupidity of the average person out there that it's scary. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

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Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	What a fuckin joke, I can just picture a room with about 50 "psychics" sitting at workstations talking to people on the phone and feeding them bullshit. Typical topics like love, career/money, health, etc... People just want to believe in anything, Jesus, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, psychics, it's all the same. Sooooo many people in this world are too quick to believe anything they see or hear. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	now that's marketing.... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	There has been a load of money pumped into promotion of this project - the results are kinda in proportion...

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Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	If anyone wants to start a psychic chat line I'm in

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Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	A male friend of mine used to do phone sex and say he was a female, he had a voice changer thing that made him sound like a bitchy old lady. He'd get a lot of requests from guys who were into shemales and men who wanted to fuck their own mother

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lamrobertson Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 475	lol I contributed to that 1 billion! I worked as a Virtual Operator for Miss Cleo. The companies name is actually Psychic Readers Network. and no I didn't take work as a Psychic, I took calls and forwarded them to the psychics. You wouldn't believe the number of people that called in, it was unreal. The FCC went after PRN because they had some psychics that were frauds. Some of the psychics had some really deceptive tricks to keep the callers on the line. Some even tried to extort money from the callers. The business just got too big and out of control. The owner, Steve Feder actually contracted out to other companies to hire operators and psychics. Once he did that he started losing control over who was hired and what they were doing on the phone. I am sure that the company that runs those late night phone sex commercials is probably making the same kinds of money. Its amazing the masses of people that you can reach using television advertising. Lorna

11-14-2002, 04:33 PM	#11
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	first thing i'd ask a psychic on the phone is what the color of my shirt was,, if it was wrong then i'd hang up,, but then why talk to psychic to predict the future when it's gonna happen anyways?

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FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	free tarot reading with your porn membership? rebill now fo yo free tarot readin!

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Horny Dude Earn enough to buy coffee Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 4,913	I wonder if she ever saw this coming! You would think she would have been better prepared. Maybe she should have called her own line and asked. __________________

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lamrobertson Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 475	Actually "She" is Steve Feder, the owner. Miss Cleo was paid to do commericials and act as a spokesperson for PRN. Miss Cleo never took psychic calls for PRN. It was amazing how many people would call and ask to speak to her. We always had to say something to the effect that she wasn't taking calls right now or was booked up, etc. All these psychics and virtual operators worked from their homes. The operators signed into a website and calls were forwarded. You would get a script up depending on what number they had called. Since alot of the commericials were different. The psychics logged on using the phone. Once they were logged in, calls were routed to their phone numbers. As far as I know the psychics didn't have scripts. When someone was hired as a psychic they were asked to sign a statement saying they were psychic. And "some" (depending who hired them) did test calls. The test call consisted on actually giving a reading over the phone to the tester. I actually owned my own virtual call center which was subscontracted under a company under the main company. lol I only employed virtual operators. And yes we did test them as well. Lorna

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Brown Bear: The thing that really blows my mind is that I bet a lot of the people who phoned in were doctors, lawyers, business people, etc... People that you would think would be smart enough to know that the whole thing is a sham, but they aren't. The clients cover a whole spectrum of society - just the same as adult site members and I'm sure many know this stuff is fake - they just wanna believe or with adult sites, fulfil a fantasy! g

11-14-2002, 08:22 PM	#27
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Sunshine McGillicutty: Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and their ilk already have You hit the nail on the head! Catering to the "wanna believes"! Shit, "Cleo" and Steve are angels in comparison! lol

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dickblast Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ben Curtis's Tour Bus Posts: 666	when they first were filing charges a lot of media ppl went around and interviewed the ppl who had been ripped and the one thing the interviewer noticed which he pointed out was every1 that he talked to talked about getting calls 5 times a day, etc etc but noone actually said they didn't believe in psychics! that blew my mind, but its totally true. these ppl just got mad cause they were taken for $500 bills not cuz they felt like the actual advice sucked __________________ Ben Curtis is a Ninja

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Wenchy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mile High City Posts: 231	I thought the whole thing went to court because of their continued BS about "free" shit that wasn't really free at all... deceptive advertising or some such. Did I miss something? Also, as someone who reads tarot (NO, I don't make money from it and I don't even read for other people!), I can tell you that some of the cards in some of the positions are always going to sound good. The key is in reading between the lines or, in the case of telephone psychics, the loose interpretation and conveyance of what's between the lines. It's really not that hard to make someone who WANTS to believe buy into whatever you want to feed them __________________ <br><a href="http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=920346-0000&PA=581865&HTML=http://www.1000facials.com/webmasters/" target="_blank"><b>Looking for Amateur Reality Sites?<br><img src="http://banner.1000facials.com/1000facials_120x60_01.gif"><br>One Man... One Camera... One Mission<br></b></a>

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Bobo Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,253	Wow 1 billion in 3 years. I'm going to stop selling crack and start selling psychic.