or if they just got billions in handouts like israel.

besides i wouldnt really call what israel does positive energy, unless of course killing handfulls of children on a daily basis is "positive"

so really you both do alot of negative things , difference is israel gets billions in donations and sophisticated weapons

actually this israeli says its not that way
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...estine/print?2

don't worry i'm sure there of plenty of ignorant arabs that feel the same way as ignorant jews :2 cents:

My friend I talk about 60 years ago :)

Ohh yea mean we are more successful with that what the Palestinians try to do daily without any response from us for a long while. Its war simple we will win, I hate every death on each site, but enough is enough, can't keep go to the shelters every time again because a idiot sends a rocket again instead of planting food and milking his cows.

Same old tired story from you. The US made it's own bed on that account. Had we not forced Israel to accept a Soviet brokered cease fire in the Yom Kippur War Israel would have marched right into Cairo and Damascus and Israel would be one of the most oil rich nations in the world. Even if the Palestinians got sophisticated weaponry (which, by the way, has probably been developed in Israel in the first place) it wouldn't matter much. The Arab nations that attacked Israel in the Yom Kippur war received plenty of arms hand outs from the USSR. A lot of good it did them.

The Palestinians should have been absorbed by other Arab nations, period. They had their chance in 1999 at Camp David. Israel bent over and grabbed their ankles, and Arafat still turned them down. Now it's too fucking bad for them...

actually its facts and certainly not ones i made happen. But yes it gives me the right to have a say so , because my tax dollars feed your children.


or it could have failed and they all died.

entirely funded by the usa so really you mean my weapons my tax dollars paid for , if i gave them the same weapons as i gave you.

give me 6 million a day and i'll invent some kickass weaponry

or you mean all the little kids who are being bombed that have no idea what the hell is going on. The arab nations you speak about aren't suffering, just kids in a cage.

WTF are you talking about, my children? I live in Ohio and this has nothing to do with me. As for giving someone 6 million a day, for all the oil riches the Arab nations have can you tell me a single innovation that has come from them? I didn't think so. As for the kids in a cage, either the Arab nations can absorb them, as they should have in the first place, or their parents can stop lobbing rockets into Israel. The last time Israel gave this kind of response, after the rash of suicide bombers, that eventually died down. I expect the rocket attacks will, too. I don't give a shit about disproportionate force, if you come up and take a swing at me, I will put you down and you won't get back up, period.

So in SmokeyTheBear's imagination land, Israel should just pull back from the area that is getting attacked with rockets, right? Because surely the Palestinians won't move forward and keep lobbing rockets until they can hit something more meaningful, right? Yeah, right...

Hmm I do think my country is very well capable to feed there own children.


Yes we call that investment. USA (any idea what religion the most richest people have in the us?) send money, we develop, we give it to them back, they sell to others, US makes money back :) dont we love how the market works.

Yes horrible for anyone that need to suffer with this problem, kids and adults. But heee my kids also would like to be free on the streets and not need to run when we hear a sirene again for a incoming missile. Also this papa would like to be with there children when they are on school and we hear the sirens. Knife cuts on 2 sides not 1. We didn't start this.

why did hamas even bomb israel in first place? dont they know IDF is a fucking powerful military ? how the hell is katusha rockets go against extremely well prepared army and air force ?

this is absolutely true. We made the enemy we fight now. Does this mean we should let them win?

there is no win lose in this situation.its just degrees of losing

Israel nears Gaza city. Allah akbarrrr. God save the queen and all that shit. I'm passing out Kwanza beads to everyone I see tomorrow.

Fuck.

and that has to do with what ? If you seriously think arabs havent produced a single innovation then you are deluded, as far as nations inventing things, i cant think of any nation that has invented anything offhand. I can think of a few nations that endless brag about a few things they invented like they were gods chosen people when really they are deluded racist freaks :winkwink:

you tell those 2 year olds who is boss man.:thumbsup:thumbsup

as for defending israel, either other nations can absorb the jews in as they should have in the first place or their parents can stop using donations to murder children




and you will bomb babies , hospitals and pregnant women just like israel does ?

So if your kid takes a swing at someone at a school , it would be allright for that kid to murder your entire family ?


its called an idea, one day when you grow up you will get them too and think for yourself even. :winkwink:
they should pull back civilians yes, the border is still the border, ask the u.n. to sit in the middle. then anyone who gets shot is obviously in the middle where they arent supposed to be. thus no babies , no civilians, problem solved.




but i would make it even simpler. everyone has 30 days to get the fuck out of israel, everyone. Nuke the entire area, all the ultra hardfast religious nuts on both side will be killed

Hmm Hospitals and bombing did remind me on something . They get what they give period.

LINK

then why all the handouts ?



you call handouts investments ? lol , i have some great investments for you.

only a racist would care, and we all know rich people pay oodles of taxes :winkwink:
thats great except wow every other country does the same thing , without getting billions in donations


and they feel the exact same way, cept they dont hear any sirens , they are just dead.



who cares who started it, they say you did , you say they did, wow suprising. you both sound like toddlers.:winkwink:

if some sicko molests your dog, are you going to molest his dog back ? :Oh crap

By the way, WTF do you mean your tax dollars? Aren't you a Canadian? Why are you bitching about US tax dollars then? Seriously, take a stroll down Google lane and let me know if you find any Arab innovation. If pissing away billions in oil riches, and then building a big tourist trap in Dubai because they are running out of oil is an innovation then I guess you got me. The use that same magical search engine and look up Israeli innovations. Let me know how that goes for you :thumbsup

Wow, just wow. Now I get it, you don't really believe what you are spewing, you are just stirring up shit to stir up shit. You're absolutely right, the Palestinians can do no wrong, and Israel can do no right. Ok then, forget I ever wasted time talking to you...

Isn't that Dubai, Saudi Arabia?

No , I kill the Sicko, if the dog is between i kill him to. Do I want it to no, its not the dogs fault that his boss is an ass. But when it comes to it it need to happen.

you obviously missed the point of the whole " eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" message. I am just pointing it out , sorry if it disturbs you :)

Do you know what Smokey, I Live there I have been in pretty much every Arabic country you can dream about. Israel has its right to defend and secure there country and people. And shitty enough war always give casualties. But tell me what do you know, what have you see. Did you ever take some Muslims in your house to with you eat with you as guests (i do). Ever be in a Mosque (i do). Do send money to help the Palestinians (i do) Have be in Palestinine to help build up projects (i do).

Smokey WHAT DO YOU KNOW by your own experiance.

i am an american
because i pay them.


maybe they just dont gloat about it as much :winkwink:

i see a bunch of ignorant people blabbering on about the same cut and paste list one tard made like they are somehow better than other people because of what someone else did who's only relation is they believe the same fairy tale :thumbsup

. I guess the lesson is racists can copy and paste very well ?

it;'s not eye for a eye, there is only one that miss the whole point and that is you..

It's not that they can do no wrong, it's that palestinians barely have enough fire power to poke holes in a few buildings and reach two border towns.

The balance of power is so highly skewed in favor of Israel that they should be the ones showing restraint.

drunk drivers killed more israelis than terrorists in 2008, every country has a right to defend itself, what israel is doing is overkill and foolish and they are losing, even with the huge kill rate if they stayed at the same rate for all out war they will run out of people.



not that is has anything to do with the discussion but sure.
yup several , and jws too
not to worship or anything but yes twice for marriages

nope.
no its quite far, have you ever been to a native american reserve to help build projects ?

Probably not because its very far away and i wouldn't expect you have.

you must realise you are deluded when thats what you get out of this conversation, the truth is thats not at all how i feel and i have the balls to say it , do you ?

the majority of what the palestine military/militants does is wrong, i feel the same way about both sides, can you say the same ? no buts, no " he started it first" , no excuses.

i dont think any side is more right or more wrong, both sides are equally fucking up.

First of all, learn how to use the quote function, because you just quoted a bunch of shit two posts up that came from another poster, not me.

Second, I have no problem being critical of Israel's military, and the funny thing is neither do the Israeli people. Just read any Israeli newspaper and you will see that. I also personally believe all the settlements should be disbanded. However, if you honestly believe that will change anything you are dead wrong. The farther Israel pulls back, the further Hamas and the other terrorists will push in. It's not coming from my mouth, and I'm not making it up when Hamas constantly says they will not negotiate with Israel and won't be satisfied until they are destroyed. If you believe otherwise, there is nothing I can do for you...

Canadian Married here :) I had my fun with some natives. Also a good example how the North Americans handled there occupation. What is your opinion on that, when do you go back to your own country?

so lets hear it then

i already explained that above so thats just an excuse
i have heard the same rhetoric from both sides, the fact is they have negotiated, they need to do it better. :thumbsup

and the answer to the question . Have you ever helped on native american reserve projects ?


i used to a be an embassy jockey ;) i hold citizenship in several different countries

Yeas because everybody in UK thinks alike. Sid Vicious used to have lunch with the Queen on a regular basis where they organized the behavior:321GFY of every UK citizen

I think you are way wrong about that. The whole world is appalled at Israel's actions. Wake up!

Oh stop with your terrorist bullshit. This is how you get people afraid enough to do whatever you tell them. Fuck you!!

Numbers
Hospitals
Universitys
Cameras

It seems like they invented a shit load of important things.

There's no way to tell what's really going on in this video. It sucks whenever a party is broken up imho but I get a sense the narrator is feeding us his version of the story..

On 911 the Palestinians danced in the streets of Gaza and on the West Bank.

http://www.israelpolitik.org/wp-cont...after-9-11.JPG

Nuff said?

Fuck 'em :321GFY