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Old 01-06-2009, 04:29 AM   #51
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I agree, Atlanta and Phoenix forum have high badge fees but the fees are justified with the free meals, transportation, welcome and farewell receptions among tons of other freebies that are included. I don't recall AVN doing anything more than lining their pockets.

Also, has anyone tried booking their rooms directly from the hotel? You'd be surprised to see that AVN's rates are about $40-$50/night more expensive than booking with the Palms directly.

Enough is enough, AVN, stop lining your pockets or you're going to lose the people that made your business.
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I agree, Atlanta and Phoenix forum have high badge fees but the fees are justified with the free meals, transportation, welcome and farewell receptions among tons of other freebies that are included. I don't recall AVN doing anything more than lining their pockets.

Also, has anyone tried booking their rooms directly from the hotel? You'd be surprised to see that AVN's rates are about $40-$50/night more expensive than booking with the Palms directly.

Enough is enough, AVN, stop lining your pockets or you're going to lose the people that made your business.
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All true. Interestingly enough, the rooms at the Palms Place Hotel and Space (attached property, different tower) are twice as big for less money. I also think it's worth pointing out that the Gold Coast http://www.goldcoastcasino.com/accom.../premium-rooms which is a 1 minute walk across the street has rooms for $35-60/night.

I like a lavish hotel more than anyone but being completely honest, I'd be happier with an awesome cheap stay... at a place that is still very well run... with less expensive drinking and dining. It would be nice if someone would choose 3-4 star venue that we could fill up and present exceptional value in every respect. I think despite the fact there are "too many shows" it is still possible to break down all the barriers and get super high attendance again at a Vegas venue.

I think that the Phoenix and Atlanta Forums, Vegas Xbiz, Qwebec Expo and a few other venues really set a high standard when it comes to how well we taken care of with entertainment, transportation, and well planned meals.

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All true. Interestingly enough, the rooms at the Palms Place Hotel and Space (attached property, different tower) are twice as big for less money. I also think it's worth pointing out that the Gold Coast http://www.goldcoastcasino.com/accom.../premium-rooms which is a 1 minute walk across the street has rooms for $35-60/night.

I like a lavish hotel more than anyone but being completely honest, I'd be happier with an awesome cheap stay... at a place that is still very well run... with less expensive drinking and dining. It would be nice if someone would choose 3-4 star venue that we could fill up and present exceptional value in every respect. I think despite the fact there are "too many shows" it is still possible to break down all the barriers and get super high attendance again at a Vegas venue.

I think that the Phoenix and Atlanta Forums, Vegas Xbiz, Qwebec Expo and a few other venues really set a high standard when it comes to how well we taken care of with entertainment, transportation, and well planned meals.

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Normally I stay at the hotel where the shindig is. But this time, those rates were simply too high for a conference. I opted to hit the GoldCoast instead, and get one of their premium rooms.

For the $800+ I'll save in hotel fees, I can spend on broads in Vegas, or do three photo shoots when I get home giving me 24 sets!!

I like the conferences as much as anyone, but I think with an industry on the whole, and almost every segment going through some change, it would be nice to see some return on the investment (food, freebies, less expensive rooms, etc).

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You have to be joking about the hotel rates being cheaper going direct.
AVN has been marking up hotel room blocks for years... I'm surprised you never noticed.
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Feeling pretty screwed on this myself

$150 x 4 people = 4 pissed off people from Sexkey coming to Vegas
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All true. Interestingly enough, the rooms at the Palms Place Hotel and Space (attached property, different tower) are twice as big for less money. I also think it's worth pointing out that the Gold Coast http://www.goldcoastcasino.com/accom.../premium-rooms which is a 1 minute walk across the street has rooms for $35-60/night.

I like a lavish hotel more than anyone but being completely honest, I'd be happier with an awesome cheap stay... at a place that is still very well run... with less expensive drinking and dining. It would be nice if someone would choose 3-4 star venue that we could fill up and present exceptional value in every respect. I think despite the fact there are "too many shows" it is still possible to break down all the barriers and get super high attendance again at a Vegas venue.

I think that the Phoenix and Atlanta Forums, Vegas Xbiz, Qwebec Expo and a few other venues really set a high standard when it comes to how well we taken care of with entertainment, transportation, and well planned meals.

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Chargeback, man up about it and get your money back, or shut the fuck up. That's business motherfuckers. Anyone crying about this definitely won't be missed. Who enjoys the company of whiny little crybaby bitches? No one. Do something about it, take action. Crying on an Internet message board doesn't count as taking action. Man the fuck up or shut the fuck up. No exceptions, no matter who the fuck you think you are.
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Chargeback, man up about it and get your money back, or shut the fuck up. That's business motherfuckers. Anyone crying about this definitely won't be missed. Who enjoys the company of whiny little crybaby bitches? No one. Do something about it, take action. Crying on an Internet message board doesn't count as taking action. Man the fuck up or shut the fuck up. No exceptions, no matter who the fuck you think you are.
A chargeback isn't the way to bitch about it either. You can't issue a chargeback for the sole reason of getting an item cheaper, especially if you plan on using that same CC to rebuy the exact same item for 50% less.
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I do not drink alcohol, but sounds pretty pricey. I know my Diet Coke's were through the roof.


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I always check hotel rates directly for the Vegas show because I know they are always cheaper. I got a killer deal on a two bedroom suite at the Palms last year because it was in the older section that had not been remodeled yet. It was still very nice and I think I only paid a little more than a normal AVN rate room.

If I were going this year, I would be booking at the Gold Coast.
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Talk about kicking the gift horse in the mouth!

GFY has worked out a limited time deal with AVN to get GFY users a discounted pass. This is not an offer open to everyone it is an offer we worked out for a limited time with AVN. Just like when you buy your ticket on Southwest or another airline, and after you purchase a deal comes along.

The deal is there for you guys to take advantage of, AVN and GFY worked out this deal for you guys. You can either take advantage of it, or bitch. Your choice.
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Fact: AVN is a piece of shit and the people who work there are jackasses
Fact: AVN should NOT exist. The fact that it does is just stupid.
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Just like when you buy your ticket on Southwest or another airline, and after you purchase a deal comes along.
Southwest will credit your CC directly for the difference if the ticket price drops after your purchase (though the other airlines will just give flight credits). I don't have a dog in this fight but unless AVN is crediting the difference for people who bought early, this is a really bad comparison.
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Talk about kicking the gift horse in the mouth!

GFY has worked out a limited time deal with AVN to get GFY users a discounted pass. This is not an offer open to everyone it is an offer we worked out for a limited time with AVN. Just like when you buy your ticket on Southwest or another airline, and after you purchase a deal comes along.

The deal is there for you guys to take advantage of, AVN and GFY worked out this deal for you guys. You can either take advantage of it, or bitch. Your choice.
If you don't understand why GFY users are upset, you may want to step back from the situation here and do some damage control instead of attacking people or calling them crybabies.
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GFY has worked out a limited time deal with AVN to get GFY users a discounted pass. This is not an offer open to everyone it is an offer we worked out for a limited time with AVN. Just like when you buy your ticket on Southwest or another airline, and after you purchase a deal comes along.

The deal is there for you guys to take advantage of, AVN and GFY worked out this deal for you guys. You can either take advantage of it, or bitch. Your choice.
Most places do have price matching guarantees though. Starwood hotels always will give you the difference back thru their price matching. Similiarly, retailers will do the same for most major brands. Airlines is a bit tougher but like Peaches said, they mostly will do price matches to keep people happy.
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GFY has worked out a limited time deal with AVN to get GFY users a discounted pass. This is not an offer open to everyone it is an offer we worked out for a limited time with AVN. Just like when you buy your ticket on Southwest or another airline, and after you purchase a deal comes along.

The deal is there for you guys to take advantage of, AVN and GFY worked out this deal for you guys. You can either take advantage of it, or bitch. Your choice.
It is a good deal for certain individuals. Not everyone got the offer. I think that the timing could have been better. Many of us have made all of our arrangements already so this offer is moot. Maybe that was the idea. Send out a last minute offer knowing that a lot of people purchased already.
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this is precisely the reason why i STOPPED going to avn shows! disorganized and not worth the money... i can go to phoenix forum, any xbiz show, or any webmaster access and get what i paid for and do just as much if not more biz there.

sucks for you guys that got ripped off...

take a look at xbiz, instead of talking crap about them... their last show was free and amazing... everyone i spoke with was happy. Give everyone their money back, bite the bullet on this one and HOPE all the pissed off people still consider attending another avn event after this shit.

-- this same deal is also being offered from other boards not just gfy if you havent noticed --
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We got cheaper rooms at the Venetian going directly through them rather than Rose Tours.

I tried to get a suite yesterday at the Palms dealing with them directly and it didn't go so hot.
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If I were going this year, I would be booking at the Gold Coast.
What do you mean you're NOT coming ???
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Received that notice from them last night.
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I don't recall AVN doing anything more than lining their pockets.

Also, has anyone tried booking their rooms directly from the hotel? You'd be surprised to see that AVN's rates are about $40-$50/night more expensive than booking with the Palms directly.

Enough is enough, AVN, stop lining your pockets or you're going to lose the people that made your business.
This is AVN you're talking about here. Hell you basically just described their business plan.
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The deal is there for you guys to take advantage of, AVN and GFY worked out this deal for you guys. You can either take advantage of it, or bitch. Your choice.
Is this why I got the same limited time offer email from another forum as well?
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:47 AM   #87
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We got cheaper rooms at the Venetian going directly through them rather than Rose Tours.

I tried to get a suite yesterday at the Palms dealing with them directly and it didn't go so hot.
I'll send you a link to get a suite for $300/night @ Palms. Much cheaper than AVN/Rose tours rates.
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All true. Interestingly enough, the rooms at the Palms Place Hotel and Space (attached property, different tower) are twice as big for less money. I also think it's worth pointing out that the Gold Coast http://www.goldcoastcasino.com/accom.../premium-rooms which is a 1 minute walk across the street has rooms for $35-60/night.
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I am paying $25/night at the Gold Coast on the 11th, 12th and 13th with the winter special promotion!
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I am paying $25/night at the Gold Coast on the 11th, 12th and 13th with the winter special promotion!
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Talk about kicking the gift horse in the mouth!

GFY has worked out a limited time deal with AVN to get GFY users a discounted pass. This is not an offer open to everyone it is an offer we worked out for a limited time with AVN. Just like when you buy your ticket on Southwest or another airline, and after you purchase a deal comes along.

The deal is there for you guys to take advantage of, AVN and GFY worked out this deal for you guys. You can either take advantage of it, or bitch. Your choice.
come on - i would have given you three thumbs up if that would have been offered 4 or 6 weeks ago. but making people buy early by giving an early bird discount of 50 bucks and then later offering $150 to those who have already bought is kind of screwed up.

for me and the people who come with me it's also $600 in total - that's a nice amount of drinks and lapdances
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I'll send you a link to get a suite for $300/night @ Palms. Much cheaper than AVN/Rose tours rates.
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Kevin got a nice suite ... but thanks to you, I get to stay in a studio at the Palms Palace...with my own coffee maker!
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LOL LOL

I just think it's funny the discounted price is enough to stay at the Gold Coast. I'm so kicking myself, last year I swore I'd stay at the Gold Coast and I just plain forgot this year when I booked everything early.. room, air, badge.

Being a glass half full kind of guy, I would also say that as someone who paid $250 for my badge two months ago I'm happy if this last minute discount increases attendance because in my view that gives me a better value for my overall time and money spent.

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I'm happy if this last minute discount increases attendance because in my view that gives me a better value for my overall time and money spent.

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AVN, bad juju here. I kinda feel dumped on; but, I'm a man and will just take the hit.

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LAME! And i thought i was saving money by registering early. Screw that, ill just wait till the last minute next year
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For anyone that didn't get the email just put in promo code GFY2 on the internext site for the discount.
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LOL LOL

I just think it's funny the discounted price is enough to stay at the Gold Coast. I'm so kicking myself, last year I swore I'd stay at the Gold Coast and I just plain forgot this year when I booked everything early.. room, air, badge.

Being a glass half full kind of guy, I would also say that as someone who paid $250 for my badge two months ago I'm happy if this last minute discount increases attendance because in my view that gives me a better value for my overall time and money spent.

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Brad, I really admire how you always see things positively. ;)

But actually i don't think it will be responsible for one extra attendee. it might make some people buy a badge that would have skipped that and just went to the Palms circle bar and some parties. but i don't think that someone now will buy a plane ticket and get hotel rooms just cause the ticket got cheaper.
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I am paying $25/night at the Gold Coast on the 11th, 12th and 13th with the winter special promotion!
I splurged and paid $35 for the premo room

Im not paying $200 or so a night to stay in the palms, definitely not worth it IMO. If i was only going to Vegas for my once a year vacation, I might think of spending more and getting nicer room. but the $400+ I saved by staying at the Gold Coast, is an extended weekend somewhere else next month
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