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Old 01-06-2009, 09:49 PM   #51
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:17 PM   #52
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:22 PM   #53
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The death of the two party system HAS to come. The only real candidates for ACTUAL change are libertarians. Ron Paul would've changed the US for the better, permanently and in long term growth and positive economic gains for everybody.

The people, if you really ask them...don't want this system to continue. With the help of the Internet and the ability to deliver information to the whole world, maybe we can educate the chunk of the country that actually elects people (the midwest, and Cali, Florida and New York). They think they're wasting votes voting for the indies and people in big cities don't even get them as a choice on the ballots. I haven't gotten a Libertarian candidate on a ballot in the last 3 elections.

It will take blood, disease, death in the streets, economic collapse and tides of death for the US to change for real and the money is so entrenched that I don't think the change will be for the better.

I think the US will end up an automated police state like London, Sydney, Belgium and Paris. No guns, thug cops, cameras everywhere, no privacy, no anonymity. Cash is heavily monitored, all Internet use automatedly controlled and monitored.

It may take 10 years, maybe even 15...but that's where it's going unless there's a revolution. Honestly, I don't know if Americans have the balls for a revolution any more. That's probably what feels the worst about the whole thing. Americans have no sense of self and there's too much infighting in the tribes, races and neighborhoods.

Southerners hate Yankees, the Blacks hate everybody, the Whites feel themselves getting squoze into minority status as all other races spawn in record numbers while whites face rising sterility and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fertility treatments, in vitro and more just to have 1 or 2 kids. Hispanics are gaining an incredible economic foothold in the US. As their population in the US has overtaken blacks and is now encroaching in the 20s% of the working, tax paying, Americans they are, things are changing. Asians are venturing out of their neighborhoods on the west coast and are just as American and capitalist as the rest of us. They work hard, study hard, are disciplines, responsible and family focused. Their ancient cultures have a lot to teach the rest of us, even if they can be a bit closed off and private.

But I digress...

(excuse my late night, affected rant)
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Old 01-07-2009, 02:31 AM   #54
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No way this asshole currently in the office fucked up any political possibilities for the Bush family for the next 300 years or so.
They are fucked because of one asshole in the family.
You seriously think someone will vote for another Bush after what this cocksucker did to the United Stated economy and the two wars that he started for no reason leaving over 4000 dead ?
Newsflash, they voted for him twice and the public in general doesn't have a very long memory.

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The death of the two party system HAS to come. The only real candidates for ACTUAL change are libertarians. Ron Paul would've changed the US for the better, permanently and in long term growth and positive economic gains for everybody.
So Libertarians or Ron Paul?
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:38 AM   #55
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Newsflash, they voted for him twice and the public in general doesn't have a very long memory.
The public will remember at least until the recession ends and, depending on who you talk to, that could be a couple of years or a whole lot of years.

Shrub will be remembered as the Hoover of the new millennium, the only difference here being that Hoover was actually a pretty smart guy.
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:02 AM   #56
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:30 AM   #57
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My Buddy's dad was OSS/CIA and work with/for Bush. He wrote this book as a result:

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Old 01-07-2009, 07:55 AM   #58
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I'd like to see him as president too. Fucking Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet and the country is ALREADY starting to go down the tubes
you dont know shit hes president elect he cant make decisions yet bush is still the president read a book
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:43 AM   #59
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well Jebbie-boy.. your brother kind of fucked up any chances you had... sry about your luck!
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:41 PM   #60
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My Buddy's dad was OSS/CIA and work with/for Bush. He wrote this book as a result:

thats interesting
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:49 PM   #61
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didn't prescot bush try to overthrow the american government back in the day?
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:18 PM   #62
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The damage done to the US economy in the last 8 years will last for the next decade.

The Democrats have inherited one hell of a mess, its not Obama's fault, as stated, he hasn't done anything yet. If the Republicans were in, the same situation would exist.

Even 2 yrs from now when the country is still a mess, you still can't blame Obama. You must look at the long term trends and things that have been happening for years.

Economies don't just collapse. It takes a long time for the environment to develop.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:38 PM   #63
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Fucking Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet and the country is ALREADY starting to go down the tubes

WOW! That's one deep thought... Obama isn't in the office yet therefore he can't be hold responsible!
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:42 PM   #64
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Palin vs Clinton 2012...
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:05 PM   #65
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I'd like to see him as president too. Fucking Obama hasn't even been sworn in yet and the country is ALREADY starting to go down the tubes
yeah,
and it just started on election day.

everything has been peachy fucking keen up till then.

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Old 01-08-2009, 03:13 PM   #66
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2012 will be the year of the Docta.
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