strongdong

this thread is nearly as entertaining as the game, nice work guys

NYRangers

As much as it hates me to say it (living in Canada), the better team won tonight. That's why they are the better team. If the Russian Junior team was better they would not have put themselves in a place to lose.

And before you put your panties in a bunch I was behind the reds.

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Phil

what can I say. Good for you???

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NYRangers

Fuck good for me. I am in Canada rooting for the Russians. I lost alot of money tonight. Go Sweden!!!

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Phil

What I meant is “good for you to think that way”..
Russians didn’t put themselves into position to lose. First of all, kid missed empty netter. Not only he missed it he failed to skate past blue line and shoot the puck causing icing. Second of all, nemchinov should have had his best player Filatov on that shootout. WTF was going thru his mind.. That I don’t know. If you think I’m alone in this I suggest you check out hfboards.dot.com…

This wasn’t about team. This was fucking arrogance.

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Besides, how the fuck did you lose money on this game? The spread was +3 for Canada last time I checked?

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NYRangers

I don't know what the spread was but I bet flat out. I get nice payouts if it ever comes in. Betting in Canada sucks. The odds are always shit. I have to bet back home in New York to lose my money fairly.

As for the shootout, don't get me criticizing the coach. As much as I love Russian hockey I just can't figure out what the people think, let alone the coach.

In the next Olympics I am completely rooting for the Russians and the Swedes. I want to see the two best players in the world (Ovechkin (Алекса́ндр Миха́йлович Ове́чкин) and Malkin (Евгений Влади́мирович Малкин)) play for Russia while they despise each other.

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Phil

Lets put it this way, our best player Nikita Filatov wasn’t even in a shoot out. What was going on thru coaches mind I don’t know.
Thanks for googling Malkin and Ovechkin names there. I would have no idea who they were if it wasn’t for you. ;)
I will be in Vancouver just like I did in SLC and Turin, so if you want to get together let me know.

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Oh, the whole thing about Malkin and Ovechkin is over. I can give you link to AO’s latest interview.

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NYRangers

It better not be. I love that Ovechkin hates Geno. And for what its worth, that wasn't a Google search. I have no idea who you are but I should. We could debate Russian hockey (unbiased ;) for hours from both sides. We need to talk any time when I sober up. My ICQ number 2103055 and my Im name is edorgasm.

I'll keep your identity quiet just to talk hockey.

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I have no secrets and nothing to hide.
I’ll be in Buffalo next year for sure. My ICQ is in my profile.

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Mutt

no, i know you're wrong, because I was alive to watch it all go down. what the Soviets did, was give Canadian hockey a big wakeup call in the 1970's that the watered down NHL which had expanded way too much and way too quickly, had produced the Philadelphia Flyers, was having a horrible effect on all levels of Canadian hockey. Canada realized from the Soviets that their skating and stick/puck skills had deteriorated and it had spread down to every level of Canadian hockey. I won't take anything away from the Soviet teams of the 70's and early 80's - they were amazingly skilled teams - but STILL Canada more often than not found a way to beat them. And NEVER EVER EVER FORGET that on the biggest stage in the most important tournament to the Soviets, with arguably their best team ever, LOST to a team of American college boys at the Lake Placid Olympics.

Those great Soviet teams were the product of Communism. That's where Communism excels. The system has complete control over the individual - perfect incubator for building great athletes and teams.

Canada and USA Hockey too for that matter studied the parts of the Soviet sports system that could be tolerated over here. Kids today in Canada and the US are tagged early as potential players for their international/Olympic teams, there are summer camps where they are brought together, skills schools, national teams for all age divisions that have IHHF tournaments.

When the Soviet Union crumbled, Russian hockey crumbled too. It still produces some great skilled hockey players, but no longer does it produce great teams. Canada took back its superiority over hockey, a very slim superiority. As it should be - it's the only country on the planet where hockey is undisputably the number one sport. The world caught up to Canada in hockey, and later the US learned the world had caught up to it in basketball and now baseball - no longer will any one country be vastly superior to the rest of the world in any sport. Canada was absolutely horrible at the last Olympics.

Did the Soviet system perfect hockey? No doubt that the Soviets' goal was to build ONE perfect team. They came close. But that ONE perfect team lost to a bunch of fat out of shape Canadians in the late summer of 1972, lost to other Canadian NHL teams several times and that one perfect team lost to the American college team in 1984. Proving that hockey is a game not only of skill and organization.

I remember when Canadian teams were incapable of completing two passes in a row - it was horrible, there were still some great skilled Canadian players, mostly French Canadians, Gilbert Perrault who Tikhonov in '72 said was the only Canadian who could play for his team, Guy Lafleur - but the rest were pretty limited skill wise, guys who went up and down their wings like table hockey players, bashing into people or winding up for slapshots. Bobby Clarke represented the best and the worst in Canadian hockey and it all culminated in the single worst incident in sports I've ever seen - I was 8 years old. Nobody played with the heart of Bobby Clarke, nobody wanted to win more, the photos of his toothless maniacal grin on the ice are legend, he was a slight of build centerman from the Canadian praries, a diabetic who was told he'd never make the NHL - as the out of shape Canadians realized in 1972 that the Soviets were more skilled than they were, faster than they were and far more physically conditioned - Clarke took it upon himself to remove the Soviets best player Valery Kharmalov from the series - permanently. In the most despicable and brutal fashion he skated towards an unsuspecting Kharmalov and took his hockey stick like a baseball bat and swung two handedly at Kharmalov's ankle and shattered it.

That's why it's so great today to watch the Canadian kids play, they don't have to shatter the ankle of the other team's best player, they don't have to rely just on their Canadian grit and heart for the game - they can all skate like the wind and handle the puck - and still play with the same passion as the Canadian teams their dads and grandfathers did.

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Phoenix

awesome game...and its now tied up...15/15 canada/russia

great rivalry...the russia/canada game is almost as important as the gold medal game

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VeriSexy

That was a insane game.. Canada had the puck luck

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Jman

something about junior hockey that surpass the NHL... these kids aren't making dick and fighting to make the big bucks.

Some real nice hockey in this tournament ;-)

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