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quiet · 11-12-2002, 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
well, Incognito... money is nice to have.... I'm not knockin' the $$$ by any means.... but for someone to go to the other extreme and say that "I NEED (insert numerical figure of choice here) million dollars to be happy!" is fucking madness.

nobody NEEDS 10 million dollars to be fucking happy..... lol...
and if that's the definition of 'happy' or 'comfortable', they'll probly never find either one.

jesus, i hope that wasn't directed at me. it's the antithesis of what i was trying to convey.

Pornkings · 11-12-2002, 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

i enjoy running my company. but the reason i do it, is quite simply to never have to worry about working again. there are plenty of other goals which are given serious headway (and which are many times, not even possible without) - when you have the money to make decisions with out said money being an influence.

am i crazy to give up a business that makes me millions every year? maybe

True
One of my goals in life was to have a successful company
at one point we were over 100 employees very satisfying.

It feels good to know i am responsible for these people it keeps me going.

Its not only about me anymore. its about helping others and being happy

Libertine · 11-12-2002, 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

jesus, i hope that wasn't directed at me. it's the antithesis of what i was trying to convey.

I think it was directed at Incognito

psyko514 · 11-12-2002, 04:10 AM

Money can't buy me happiness.
But I'm happy, so I can buy what I want,
Anytime that I want.

<IMX> · 11-12-2002, 04:12 AM

Money buys the time and freedom to escape the day to day thoughts of existence.

It also shows what kind of character you have. Sure, I love competition, but I am more interested in learning from others about their experience and fulfilling myself intellectually.

At least, that is how I will use the money I make. To go back to school--literally and figuratively.

Amputate Your Head · 11-12-2002, 04:18 AM

To some degree we all find life difficult, perplexing, and oppressive. Even when it goes well, as it may for a time, we worry that it probably won't last.

Nobody believes his or her life is perfect. >We are caught in the contradiction of finding life a rather perplexing puzzle which causes us alot of misery, and at the same time being dimly aware of the boundless, limitless nature of life. So we begin looking for an answer to the puzzle.

There are many people in the world who feel that if only they had a bigger car, a nicer house, better vacations, a more understanding boss, or a more interesting partner, then their life would work. We all go through that one. But if you reach one of them, then you need another new little cookie.... a new 'if only'. "If only I had just this one last thing, then my life would be perfect!"

Our whole life consists of this little subject looking outside itself for an object. But if you take something that is limited, like body and mind, and look for something outside it, that something becomes an object and must be limited too. So you have something limited looking for something limited and you just end up with more of the same folly that has made you miserable.

We have all spent many years building up a conditioned view of life. There is "me" and there is this "thing" out there that is either hurting me or pleasing me. We tend to run our whole life trying to avoid all that hurts or displeases us, noticing the objects, people, or situations that we think will give us pain or pleasure, avoiding one and pursuing the other. Without exception, we all do this. We remain separate from our life, looking at it, analyzing it, judging it, seeking to answer the questions, 'What am I going to get out of it? Is it going to give me pleasure or comfort or should I run away from it?" We do this from morning until night.

Underneath our nice, friendly facades there is great unease. If I were to scratch below the surface of anyone I would find fear, pain, and anxiety running amok. We all have ways to cover them up. We overeat, over-drink, overwork; we watch too much television. We are always doing something to cover up our basic existential anxiety. Some people live that way until the day they die.

As the years go by, it gets worse and worse. What might not look so bad when you are twenty-five looks awful by the time you are fifty. We all know people who might as well be dead; they have so contracted into their limited viewpoints that it is as painful for those around them as it is for themselves. The flexibility and joy and flow of life are gone.

All your life you have been going forward after something, pursuing some goal.

We all know the picture of the important executive working until ten o'clock at night, answering the phone, grabbing a sandwich on the run. His poor body is being short changed. He thinks his frantic efforts are essential for "the good life"; he fails to see that desire is running his life. We are controlled by our desires, and have only a dim awareness of the basic truth of our existence.

Caught up in desires: to be important, to possess this or that, to be rich, famous. But we begin to suspect that our life is not working quite the way the TV commercials say it will. TV suggests that if you have the newest hair spray and makeup and garage door opener, your life is going to be great. Right?

The selfish greed which runs your life will not work.

Pornkings · 11-12-2002, 04:18 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

i want to travel the entire world. then drive across north america in my convertible. go back to school to do a masters (this has already been planned). after that, it will be about managing investments (a full time job) and either going into a Phd, or starting another business, but without the the same profit focus that i currently have.

So I take it you don't want to buy Pornkings anymore?

quiet · 11-12-2002, 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
The selfish greed which runs your life will not work.

amen

quiet · 11-12-2002, 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

So I take it you don't want to buy Pornkings anymore?

lol

quiet · 11-12-2002, 04:22 AM

this has got to be my best chance at a dvd player to date.

Brujah · 11-12-2002, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
am i crazy to give up a business that makes me millions every year? maybe

Yes you're crazy. Just let it keep running, hire someone else to do it for a salary and then turn it loose while it keeps rolling in.

Pornkings · 11-12-2002, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

lol

come on i want to drive across america in Trans -am with the big bird on the hood and the tee tops off. and i want to grow a mulet

I would be the kewlest at all the trailer parks across america

AWW - Kevin · 11-12-2002, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
so how much is enough? how much (do you think) is enough to retire on?

yes, i'm kind of drunk

if you're looking for a number.... we (wife and I) want
to stop when we have $20 to $30Mil. (cash/net assets)

Brujah · 11-12-2002, 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by AWW - Kevin
if you're looking for a number.... we (wife and I) want
to stop when we have $20 to $30Mil. (cash/net assets)

Thats when I stopped too.

Brown Bear · 11-12-2002, 04:29 AM

Jesus provides all the wealth I need.

Joe Sixpack · 11-12-2002, 04:31 AM

My goal in life is to live... and to travel.

There's been enough death in my life for me to realize that life is not about "things" but experiences and trying to be content with who I am as a person.

I go to shopping centres when I have to but there's not much there aside from the odd bit of computer gear, music, books and movies that I want. My real love is travel. But its more than a love, it's a passion. I hate hotels because you never meet people and big hotels tend to be the same all over the world. I like backpacking and staying in youth hostels. I travel on my own because I like to meet people from all over the world and travel with them and talk and drink and smoke hash. I love learning about other cultures and being exposed to their art, history and architecture. I find every time I go overseas I find that human beings have more things in common than we have things that divide us.

And travelling like this (in most places in the world) only costs me about US$500 a week.

I leave on my next trip on November 25 for seven weeks and I can't fucking wait. I fly into Amsterdam where I will chill out for a few days before heading by train into Eastern Europe through Germany. I'll be back in Amsterdam for New Years Eve before flying out to New York and then Las Vegas before returning home to Australia on January 16. One way, circumnavigating the globe.

So, aside from owing my own house, which I already do, if I could have a guaranteed US$1000 a week that would be enough income for me. I'd never stop travelling.

Greek Island Of Santorini, October 1998. Eleven people, six nationalities. (I'm back row second from the left)

Amputate Your Head · 11-12-2002, 04:32 AM

seriously quiet... best advice I could give ya, (because you know me.... I'm not gonna spew out some random number here), if you have kids or plan on having kids, you may want to keep it running for them to take over... could be a nice thing for them.

Or, if you have or plan on having kids, and don't want them involved in this biz, or don't have any and don't plan on having any and don't care about the biz one way or the other.... then just bail out man..... take off and go do something you want to do.

It doesn't need to be the ulcer causing, hair falling out event that most make it out to be.... hell, I've done it before with less than fifty bucks to my name.... I hardly think you're going to go hungry any time soon.

why all this worry?

quiet · 11-12-2002, 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
seriously quiet... best advice I could give ya, (because you know me.... I'm not gonna spew out some random number here), if you have kids or plan on having kids, you may want to keep it running for them to take over... could be a nice thing for them.

Or, if you have or plan on having kids, and don't want them involved in this biz, or don't have any and don't plan on having any and don't care about the biz one way or the other.... then just bail out man..... take off and go do something you want to do.

It doesn't need to be the ulcer causing, hair falling out event that most make it out to be.... hell, I've done it before with less than fifty bucks to my name.... I hardly think you're going to go hungry any time soon.

why all this worry?

no kids. who knows what the future may hold - i think i'd like to have some one day. first i need a new girlfriend lol.

i'm not worried, it was a thread i started on gfy - just like a hundred others. i might have an ucler - but that would be due to 16 hours/day, 7 days/week, 365/year, 7 years straight. i know it's not healthy for me. but i will be done within the next year. i thought it was a topic worth discussing.

i am a fucking robot

Brujah · 11-12-2002, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
My goal in life is to live... and to travel.

There's been enough death in my life for me to realize that life is not about "things" but experiences and trying to be content with who I am as a person.

I go to shopping centres when I have to but there's not much there aside from the odd bit of computer gear, music, books and movies that I want. My real love is travel. But its more than a love, it's a passion. I hate hotels because you never meet people and big hotels tend to be the same all over the world. I like backpacking and staying in youth hostels. I travel on my own because I like to meet people from all over the world and travel with them and talk and drink and smoke hash. I love learning about other cultures and being exposed to their art, history and architecture. I find every time I go overseas I find that human beings have more things in common than we have things that divide us.

And travelling like this (in most places in the world) only costs me about US$500 a week.

I leave on my next trip on November 25 for seven weeks and I can't fucking wait. I fly into Amsterdam where I will chill out for a few days before heading by train into Eastern Europe through Germany. I'll be back in Amsterdam for New Years Eve before flying out to New York and then Las Vegas before returning home to Australia on January 16. One way, circumnavigating the globe.

So, aside from owing my own house, which I already do, if I could have a guaranteed US$1000 a week that would be enough income for me. I'd never stop travelling.

A - FUCKING - MEN !!!

Brujah · 11-12-2002, 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
To some degree we all find life difficult, perplexing, and oppressive. Even when it goes well, as it may for a time, we worry that it probably won't last.

Nobody believes his or her life is perfect. >We are caught in the contradiction of finding life a rather perplexing puzzle which causes us alot of misery, and at the same time being dimly aware of the boundless, limitless nature of life. So we begin looking for an answer to the puzzle.

There are many people in the world who feel that if only they had a bigger car, a nicer house, better vacations, a more understanding boss, or a more interesting partner, then their life would work. We all go through that one. But if you reach one of them, then you need another new little cookie.... a new 'if only'. "If only I had just this one last thing, then my life would be perfect!"

Our whole life consists of this little subject looking outside itself for an object. But if you take something that is limited, like body and mind, and look for something outside it, that something becomes an object and must be limited too. So you have something limited looking for something limited and you just end up with more of the same folly that has made you miserable.

We have all spent many years building up a conditioned view of life. There is "me" and there is this "thing" out there that is either hurting me or pleasing me. We tend to run our whole life trying to avoid all that hurts or displeases us, noticing the objects, people, or situations that we think will give us pain or pleasure, avoiding one and pursuing the other. Without exception, we all do this. We remain separate from our life, looking at it, analyzing it, judging it, seeking to answer the questions, 'What am I going to get out of it? Is it going to give me pleasure or comfort or should I run away from it?" We do this from morning until night.

Underneath our nice, friendly facades there is great unease. If I were to scratch below the surface of anyone I would find fear, pain, and anxiety running amok. We all have ways to cover them up. We overeat, over-drink, overwork; we watch too much television. We are always doing something to cover up our basic existential anxiety. Some people live that way until the day they die.

As the years go by, it gets worse and worse. What might not look so bad when you are twenty-five looks awful by the time you are fifty. We all know people who might as well be dead; they have so contracted into their limited viewpoints that it is as painful for those around them as it is for themselves. The flexibility and joy and flow of life are gone.

All your life you have been going forward after something, pursuing some goal.

We all know the picture of the important executive working until ten o'clock at night, answering the phone, grabbing a sandwich on the run. His poor body is being short changed. He thinks his frantic efforts are essential for "the good life"; he fails to see that desire is running his life. We are controlled by our desires, and have only a dim awareness of the basic truth of our existence.

Caught up in desires: to be important, to possess this or that, to be rich, famous. But we begin to suspect that our life is not working quite the way the TV commercials say it will. TV suggests that if you have the newest hair spray and makeup and garage door opener, your life is going to be great. Right?

The selfish greed which runs your life will not work.

This was pretty long, I saved it for last. I wanted to read it all, because it started out well.. and then it ended even better.

Reminds me of the wisdom of the great prophet Tyler Durden.

Amputate Your Head · 11-12-2002, 04:49 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
i'm not worried, it was a thread i started on gfy - just like a hundred others. i might have an ucler - but that would be due to 16 hours/day, 7 days/week, 365/year, 7 years straight. i know it's not healthy for me. but i will be done within the next year. i thought it was a topic worth discussing.

ahhh.... okay.... just seems to be alot of talk of this subject lately... seems like people are stressing way too much over making the equivalent of the King of Saudi Arabia in order to find some peace in their lives.... lol....

so, I'll answer your question then.....

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
how much (do you think) is enough to retire on?

tough to put a figure next to that since everyone has a different idea of what they need to live on and how much they wanna spend on frivolous junk and toys.... also, are you supporting only yourself, or are there other people that will depend on this money?

then I guess it would depend on how old you are, because that's gonna affect how many 'retirement' years you can sort of count on, when balanced with the duration of your life expectancy. Are you retiring at 25 and gonna live to be 87? Or are you retiring at 50 and only going to live another 6 months?

Makes a big difference in how much cash you're gonna need.

so.... actually..... I really can't answer this question.... sorry.... I tried.

quiet · 11-12-2002, 04:57 AM

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ahhh.... okay.... just seems to be alot of talk of this subject lately

agreed. that's why i named the topic 'so much talk about money tonight'

i wasn't looking for a general answer. specific opinions are interesting though :)

Brujah · 11-12-2002, 05:02 AM

The only financial manager you'll ever need...

quiet · 11-12-2002, 05:03 AM

btw, did you use that lawyer group i mentioned to you a while back? they are kind of Canada-centric, so i wasn't sure if they'd be useful.

quiet · 11-12-2002, 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
[B]The only financial manager you'll ever need...

tyler durden rules

Amputate Your Head · 11-12-2002, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
btw, did you use that lawyer group i mentioned to you a while back? they are kind of Canada-centric, so i wasn't sure if they'd be useful.

nah..... partly cuz I've been busy with this house searching quest I'm on, and partly cuz I think I'm gonna need someone saavy with Hawai'i legalese...

frankfortuna · 11-12-2002, 05:06 AM

Interestingly, your last few posts all reflect #5000.

Brujah · 11-12-2002, 05:08 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
tyler durden rules

If memory doesn't fail, didn't AMP look sort of like Tyler ? My memory fails me often though.

Quote:

quiet
29 now, retired by Visa

Registered:
Sep 2001
Location: beyond good and evil
Posts: 5000

Btw, CONGRATS on # 5,000

AWW - Kevin · 11-12-2002, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i wasn't looking for a general answer. specific opinions are interesting though

whatever number you come up with??double it? because
when you get married and divorce you?ll be left with half !

Unfortunately something to think about these days

Joe Sixpack · 11-12-2002, 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by AWW - Kevin

whatever number you come up with??double it? because
when you get married and divorce you?ll be left with half !

Unfortunately something to think about these days

Then you'd have to be a moron to get married, wouldn't you?

Rocky · 11-12-2002, 08:05 AM

Money Can't Buy It

Money can't buy it...baby
Sex can't buy it...baby
Drugs can't buy it...baby
You can't buy it...baby

I believe that love alone might do these things for you
I believe in love alone yea yea
Take the power to set you free
Kick down the door and throw away the key
Give up your needs...
Your poisoned seeds
Find yourself elected to a different kind of creed

I believe that love alone might do these things for you
I believe that love alone might do these things for you
I believe in the power of creation
I believe in the good vibration
I believe in love alone yea yea

Won't somebody tell me what we're coming to
It might take forever till we watch those dreams come true
All the money in the world won't buy you peace of mind
You can have it all but you still won't be satisfied

Money can't buy it...baby
Sex can't buy it...baby
Drugs can't buy it...baby
You can't buy it...baby

Now...
Hear this
Pay attention to me
'Cause I'm a rich white girl and it's plain to see
I got every kind of thing that the money can buy
Let me tell you all about it
Let me amplify
I got DIAMONDS
You heard about those
I got so many that I can't close my safe at night in the dark
Lying awake in a sick dream

I believe that love alone might do these things for you
I believe that love alone might do these things for you
I believe in the power of creation
I believe in the good vibration
I believe in love alone yea yea

Nysus · 11-12-2002, 08:11 AM

All you need to survive is a million. Once I reach my first million, then the rest will be easy to get.

Cheers,
Matt

slapass · 11-12-2002, 08:33 AM

I ran into something similar a few years ago. I had made a fairly large amount of $$ (for me) and was looking for something more. My solution was to make a list of 10 things I wanted to do and then just kept doing them. 5 were pretty much filler and may never get done and I did 4 of them. Time for a new list after reading this thread.

My point is you can reorder your priorites without doing the whole retirement thing. Then when you get bored as hell you still have something to work on.

Suppa · 11-12-2002, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

I guess it depends on your goal.

I do many other things then adult to make money but its not the money that drives me.
I set new goals all the time to keep me going from day to day.

personally My new goal is to have to kids a boy and a girl.
have one in the oven and I find out if its a boy or girl this week.

well...honestly...
i dunno about you but; i am young i don't think a couple of extra benjamins will bother me.

Ramster · 11-12-2002, 10:02 AM

To retire? I'd say 2 million would do it. Earning 5%, maybe 10% living off of that and slowly drawing from the principle over time.

TeraBabes · 11-12-2002, 10:23 AM

Interesting thread.

quiet - I noticed you never answered your own question.

For me, if I had to pick an exact $ amount... $10 million. Yes, I could probably retire and be happy with half of that, and yes, I'm sure I could spend double that too. But I think that's the amount that answers the question for me.

dapproid · 11-12-2002, 11:23 AM

Save $1 000 000 on the bank and live on the revenue

dapproid · 11-12-2002, 11:24 AM

Ooops, I meant $10 000 000

SleazyDream · 11-12-2002, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
so how much is enough? how much (do you think) is enough to retire on?

it's NEVER enough...............

Fletch XXX · 11-12-2002, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
the more u make the more U want to make...

amen brother.

I am nowhere close to what some of you guys are doing, but my numbers do increase, with every update I get a little closer.

Pushing. pushing.pushing.

FlyingIguana · 11-12-2002, 03:49 PM

come to think of it, i'm not sure if 5 or 6 billion would be enough. i could burn the cash pretty quick heh

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Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	seriously quiet... best advice I could give ya, (because you know me.... I'm not gonna spew out some random number here), if you have kids or plan on having kids, you may want to keep it running for them to take over... could be a nice thing for them. Or, if you have or plan on having kids, and don't want them involved in this biz, or don't have any and don't plan on having any and don't care about the biz one way or the other.... then just bail out man..... take off and go do something you want to do. It doesn't need to be the ulcer causing, hair falling out event that most make it out to be.... hell, I've done it before with less than fifty bucks to my name.... I hardly think you're going to go hungry any time soon. why all this worry? __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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Joe Sixpack So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,793	My goal in life is to live... and to travel. There's been enough death in my life for me to realize that life is not about "things" but experiences and trying to be content with who I am as a person. I go to shopping centres when I have to but there's not much there aside from the odd bit of computer gear, music, books and movies that I want. My real love is travel. But its more than a love, it's a passion. I hate hotels because you never meet people and big hotels tend to be the same all over the world. I like backpacking and staying in youth hostels. I travel on my own because I like to meet people from all over the world and travel with them and talk and drink and smoke hash. I love learning about other cultures and being exposed to their art, history and architecture. I find every time I go overseas I find that human beings have more things in common than we have things that divide us. And travelling like this (in most places in the world) only costs me about US$500 a week. I leave on my next trip on November 25 for seven weeks and I can't fucking wait. I fly into Amsterdam where I will chill out for a few days before heading by train into Eastern Europe through Germany. I'll be back in Amsterdam for New Years Eve before flying out to New York and then Las Vegas before returning home to Australia on January 16. One way, circumnavigating the globe. So, aside from owing my own house, which I already do, if I could have a guaranteed US$1000 a week that would be enough income for me. I'd never stop travelling. Greek Island Of Santorini, October 1998. Eleven people, six nationalities. (I'm back row second from the left)

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11-12-2002, 05:03 AM	#74
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	btw, did you use that lawyer group i mentioned to you a while back? they are kind of Canada-centric, so i wasn't sure if they'd be useful. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

11-12-2002, 05:06 AM	#77
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	Interestingly, your last few posts all reflect #5000.

11-12-2002, 08:05 AM	#81
Rocky Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Living Off The Grid Posts: 3,022	Money Can't Buy It Money can't buy it...baby Sex can't buy it...baby Drugs can't buy it...baby You can't buy it...baby I believe that love alone might do these things for you I believe in love alone yea yea Take the power to set you free Kick down the door and throw away the key Give up your needs... Your poisoned seeds Find yourself elected to a different kind of creed I believe that love alone might do these things for you I believe that love alone might do these things for you I believe in the power of creation I believe in the good vibration I believe in love alone yea yea Won't somebody tell me what we're coming to It might take forever till we watch those dreams come true All the money in the world won't buy you peace of mind You can have it all but you still won't be satisfied Money can't buy it...baby Sex can't buy it...baby Drugs can't buy it...baby You can't buy it...baby Now... Hear this Pay attention to me 'Cause I'm a rich white girl and it's plain to see I got every kind of thing that the money can buy Let me tell you all about it Let me amplify I got DIAMONDS You heard about those I got so many that I can't close my safe at night in the dark Lying awake in a sick dream I believe that love alone might do these things for you I believe that love alone might do these things for you I believe in the power of creation I believe in the good vibration I believe in love alone yea yea __________________ Are you down with Sin?

11-12-2002, 08:11 AM	#82
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	All you need to survive is a million. Once I reach my first million, then the rest will be easy to get. Cheers, Matt

11-12-2002, 08:33 AM	#83
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	I ran into something similar a few years ago. I had made a fairly large amount of $$ (for me) and was looking for something more. My solution was to make a list of 10 things I wanted to do and then just kept doing them. 5 were pretty much filler and may never get done and I did 4 of them. Time for a new list after reading this thread. My point is you can reorder your priorites without doing the whole retirement thing. Then when you get bored as hell you still have something to work on.

11-12-2002, 10:02 AM	#85
Ramster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,447	To retire? I'd say 2 million would do it. Earning 5%, maybe 10% living off of that and slowly drawing from the principle over time. __________________ Fcuk Cash - Backroom Casting Couch, ExCoGi, BlackAmbush DarkReach Cash - Top Pornstars & Sites Skype: robmurray999 Email: rob-at-paysitemanagers.com

11-12-2002, 10:23 AM	#86
TeraBabes Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Under Water Posts: 2,067	Interesting thread. quiet - I noticed you never answered your own question. For me, if I had to pick an exact $ amount... $10 million. Yes, I could probably retire and be happy with half of that, and yes, I'm sure I could spend double that too. But I think that's the amount that answers the question for me. __________________ This place is too big.

11-12-2002, 11:23 AM	#87
dapproid Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 469	Save $1 000 000 on the bank and live on the revenue __________________ Data Entry - $680 \| Graphic Artist- $880 \| Developer - $980 \| System Administrator - $980 [email protected]

11-12-2002, 11:24 AM	#88
dapproid Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 469	Ooops, I meant $10 000 000 __________________ Data Entry - $680 \| Graphic Artist- $880 \| Developer - $980 \| System Administrator - $980 [email protected]

11-12-2002, 03:49 PM	#91
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	come to think of it, i'm not sure if 5 or 6 billion would be enough. i could burn the cash pretty quick heh