Pennywize, Phantom Frog, Strongbox, ProxyPass -- Which pass protector do you prefer? - GoFuckYourself.com

AmeliaG · 12-04-2008, 07:50 PM

Pennywize, Phantom Frog, Strongbox, ProxyPass -- Which pass protector do you prefer? I've used Pennywize and ProxyPass.

I've used ProxyPass and Pennywize and some custom stuff, but none of the others. I want to replace my Pennywize installs right now. I tried ProxyPass and Pennywize together for a while, but ProxyPass seemed to be looking at really different usage from Pennywize and that concerned me and then ProxyPass got kinda squirrely on what the price was and I hate when anyone tries to change a deal after they have made it, so I stopped using ProxyPass, although I may still have an unused install of it on my servers. Pennywize is giving me an error where it keeps blocking my IP. I FTP in and remove it from the blocked list, of course, but one page reload is all it takes to get my IP re-blocked. I'm concerned that, if I can't make a login from my own computer work, are my members getting this kind of frustration with Pennywize?

So I want to try something else. Recommendations?

TMM_John · 12-04-2008, 07:51 PM

Strongbox for sure.

After Shock Media · 12-04-2008, 08:41 PM

The only one you listed that doesnt start with the letter P

stevo · 12-04-2008, 08:45 PM

Completely satisfied with StrongBox...

spunky99 · 12-04-2008, 08:48 PM

proxypass most definately

April777 · 12-04-2008, 08:55 PM

I like proxypass and strongbox

icymelon · 12-04-2008, 09:10 PM

I have heard only good things about strong box for years I plan on giving it a try when I get my paysite online

BlueDude · 12-04-2008, 09:36 PM

Strongbox.

Oliver Klozov · 12-04-2008, 10:24 PM

StrongBox fo sho!!!

Easy to use, priced right and very good considerate tech support.

TisMe · 12-04-2008, 10:38 PM

StrongBox plus ThrottleBox rules!

Unbeatable support too.

MicDoohan · 12-04-2008, 10:39 PM

Strongbox is the one to use.

NaughtyRob · 12-04-2008, 10:54 PM

Proxypass kicks serious ass, better than strong box in that you get protection on the whole server not just one site at a time.

raymor · 12-05-2008, 09:43 AM

Thanks for all of the compliments. Now if we can just get Strongbox 4.0 done we'll
really DESERVE your praise! ;)

CIVMatt · 12-05-2008, 09:45 AM

eta raymor?

MaDalton · 12-05-2008, 09:49 AM

we use phantom frog and it works excellent

pennywize cost me $2500 in bandwidth charges

Easton · 12-05-2008, 09:53 AM

i've been running strongbox on every one of my sites since 2004 - love it

SkeetSkeet · 12-05-2008, 10:04 AM

strongbox hands down!

SordidMedia · 12-05-2008, 10:09 AM

Another vote here for Strongbox...a truly first class product.

Robbie · 12-05-2008, 10:24 AM

Phantom Frog user here. Absolutely ZERO problems with password sharing and/or Brute Force attacks.

F-U-Jimmy · 12-05-2008, 10:33 AM

http://botbuster.com/php/features.php

Daddy Big Nuts · 12-05-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Strongbox for sure.

Kudles · 12-05-2008, 11:22 AM

I like strongbox

raymor · 12-05-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

eta raymor?

It's hard to say for sure as we have to adjust our priorities
to match webmasters' needs. Due to the Alphared thing we
had to put a rush on Clonebox, as people were needing it
right away. Right now I'm thinking a couple more months until
the full public release.

One large network of sites is running a pre-production version right
now which includes some of the features such the basic biometrics
which identify the actual human being rather than the IP or computer.
However, other features like improved geo-tracking have only been
tested separately and still need to be integrated and there is a bit of
work left to do to organize the huge amount of information we track so
that it's easy for webmasters to understand. What all of that means is
that for webmasters who really need it, a version is available now,
and the rest largely depends on how much of the UI work can be
done by someone we're looking to hire and how much feedback we
get from webmasters - sometimes you guys give us an idea which
would have taken us many hours to figure out on our own.

georgiaasphalt · 12-05-2008, 01:10 PM

Phantom Frog user. No issues and love the automated support.

tranza · 12-05-2008, 01:41 PM

I thought you're talking about pennywise band, hehehehe.

aico · 12-05-2008, 01:45 PM

Strongbox, but have only used it and Pennywize, so can't really compare it to the other two.

gmr324 · 12-07-2008, 09:07 PM

Hi Amelia,

I represent Phantom Frog and sent you an
ICQ and email.

Our Hi-Resolution Geo-IP Tracking offers the most
accurate password abuse detection available anywhere.
It tracks all visits to the members area of a site
down to the city level. Furthermore, it takes
latitudal and longitudal data into consideration.
Therefore, Frog detects the fact that the same
password was used in L.A. and NYC. We pinpoint the
abuse instantly, allowing for the possibility of
legitimate travel. That level of resolution is
unique to Phantom Frog.

Our system is based upon the premise of providing
24/7 uninterrupted access to the legitimate members
while blocking out the leechers. This is accomplished
automatically through our Automated Member Support
(AMS) feature. When password abuse is detected, the
password is changed. The next time the valid member
tries to login, Frog uses their email address to
validate their identity and issues them a new password
directly via email. This strategy breaks the cycle of
password abuse and frees up the webmasters to do more
important work.

Phantom Frog is the only system to offer a FREE Trial Version
which installs by adding one html tag or we can handle the
installation completely for you for. In fact, we recommend
that you leave ProxyPass or Pennywize activated during
our Trial to witness first-hand all the abuse being missed by
them!

So, whether you are using Strongbox, ProxyPass, Pennywize
or any other system, our Free Trial enables you to run a
parallel test of the two systems comparing their abuse
detection capabilities directly. As evidenced by the webmaster testimonials listed on our site, this is how our clients discovered how much abuse was "flying under the radar" of their current system and were motivated to use Frog.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or feedback.

Click Here To Learn More About Phantom Frog

Visit this link to try our no-obligation FREE Trial

Major (Tom) · 12-07-2008, 10:04 PM

strongbox

Duke

NETbilling · 12-09-2008, 02:38 PM

Hi Amelia,

We have many NETbilling merchants using Phantom Frog and while I do not know the technical differences, I have heard noting but great things.

Thanks, Mitch

Kudles · 12-13-2008, 03:49 PM

Strongbox for sure

FelixFlow · 12-15-2008, 06:22 PM

PhantomFrog kicks ass and saves you time replying to customer service emails (most all of them)...gotta factor in your time (and how much it saves) into any equation

perfectodollars-gabrio · 12-16-2008, 02:01 AM

we have right now strongbox and are happy with it, plus they have a big range of products in their "-box" family that you could also like.

DamianJ · 12-16-2008, 06:42 AM

Only used the Frog, but more than happy with it.

JimmiDean · 12-16-2008, 06:53 AM

Phantom Frog great program and Bill is first class.

12-04-2008, 07:50 PM	#1
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,606	Pennywize, Phantom Frog, Strongbox, ProxyPass -- Which pass protector do you prefer? Pennywize, Phantom Frog, Strongbox, ProxyPass -- Which pass protector do you prefer? I've used Pennywize and ProxyPass. I've used ProxyPass and Pennywize and some custom stuff, but none of the others. I want to replace my Pennywize installs right now. I tried ProxyPass and Pennywize together for a while, but ProxyPass seemed to be looking at really different usage from Pennywize and that concerned me and then ProxyPass got kinda squirrely on what the price was and I hate when anyone tries to change a deal after they have made it, so I stopped using ProxyPass, although I may still have an unused install of it on my servers. Pennywize is giving me an error where it keeps blocking my IP. I FTP in and remove it from the blocked list, of course, but one page reload is all it takes to get my IP re-blocked. I'm concerned that, if I can't make a login from my own computer work, are my members getting this kind of frustration with Pennywize? So I want to try something else. Recommendations? __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

12-04-2008, 07:51 PM	#2
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12-04-2008, 08:41 PM	#3
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12-04-2008, 08:48 PM	#5
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12-04-2008, 09:10 PM	#7
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12-04-2008, 08:45 PM	#4
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	Completely satisfied with StrongBox...

12-04-2008, 08:55 PM	#6
April777 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 76	I like proxypass and strongbox

12-04-2008, 09:36 PM	#8
BlueDude Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 271	Strongbox.

12-04-2008, 10:24 PM	#9
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12-04-2008, 10:38 PM	#10
TisMe Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,719	StrongBox plus ThrottleBox rules! Unbeatable support too.

12-04-2008, 10:39 PM	#11
MicDoohan Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 791	Strongbox is the one to use.

12-04-2008, 10:54 PM	#12
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12-05-2008, 09:43 AM	#13
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Thanks for all of the compliments. Now if we can just get Strongbox 4.0 done we'll really DESERVE your praise! ;) __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

12-05-2008, 09:45 AM	#14
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12-05-2008, 09:49 AM	#15
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12-05-2008, 09:53 AM	#16
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12-05-2008, 10:04 AM	#17
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12-05-2008, 10:09 AM	#18
SordidMedia So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: U.K Posts: 283	Another vote here for Strongbox...a truly first class product.

12-05-2008, 10:24 AM	#19
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,960	Phantom Frog user here. Absolutely ZERO problems with password sharing and/or Brute Force attacks. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

12-05-2008, 10:33 AM	#20
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12-05-2008, 11:22 AM	#22
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12-05-2008, 01:10 PM	#24
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12-05-2008, 01:41 PM	#25
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I thought you're talking about pennywise band, hehehehe. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

12-05-2008, 01:45 PM	#26
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Strongbox, but have only used it and Pennywize, so can't really compare it to the other two.

12-07-2008, 09:07 PM	#27
gmr324 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,199	Hi Amelia, I represent Phantom Frog and sent you an ICQ and email. Our Hi-Resolution Geo-IP Tracking offers the most accurate password abuse detection available anywhere. It tracks all visits to the members area of a site down to the city level. Furthermore, it takes latitudal and longitudal data into consideration. Therefore, Frog detects the fact that the same password was used in L.A. and NYC. We pinpoint the abuse instantly, allowing for the possibility of legitimate travel. That level of resolution is unique to Phantom Frog. Our system is based upon the premise of providing 24/7 uninterrupted access to the legitimate members while blocking out the leechers. This is accomplished automatically through our Automated Member Support (AMS) feature. When password abuse is detected, the password is changed. The next time the valid member tries to login, Frog uses their email address to validate their identity and issues them a new password directly via email. This strategy breaks the cycle of password abuse and frees up the webmasters to do more important work. Phantom Frog is the only system to offer a FREE Trial Version which installs by adding one html tag or we can handle the installation completely for you for. In fact, we recommend that you leave ProxyPass or Pennywize activated during our Trial to witness first-hand all the abuse being missed by them! So, whether you are using Strongbox, ProxyPass, Pennywize or any other system, our Free Trial enables you to run a parallel test of the two systems comparing their abuse detection capabilities directly. As evidenced by the webmaster testimonials listed on our site, this is how our clients discovered how much abuse was "flying under the radar" of their current system and were motivated to use Frog. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or feedback. Click Here To Learn More About Phantom Frog Visit this link to try our no-obligation FREE Trial

12-07-2008, 10:04 PM	#28
Major (Tom) White Pride Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 32,119	strongbox Duke __________________ WHITE LIVES MATTER

12-09-2008, 02:38 PM	#29
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,591	Hi Amelia, We have many NETbilling merchants using Phantom Frog and while I do not know the technical differences, I have heard noting but great things. Thanks, Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

12-13-2008, 03:49 PM	#30
Kudles Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Here There and Everywhere Posts: 5,477	Strongbox for sure __________________ Free to Play MMOs and MMORPGs

12-15-2008, 06:22 PM	#31
FelixFlow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,779	PhantomFrog kicks ass and saves you time replying to customer service emails (most all of them)...gotta factor in your time (and how much it saves) into any equation __________________ ICQ: 643 339 687

12-16-2008, 02:01 AM	#32
perfectodollars-gabrio Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www.perfectodollars.com Posts: 3,811	we have right now strongbox and are happy with it, plus they have a big range of products in their "-box" family that you could also like.

12-16-2008, 06:42 AM	#33
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Only used the Frog, but more than happy with it.

12-16-2008, 06:53 AM	#34
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