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AmeliaG 12-04-2008 07:50 PM

Pennywize, Phantom Frog, Strongbox, ProxyPass -- Which pass protector do you prefer?
 
Pennywize, Phantom Frog, Strongbox, ProxyPass -- Which pass protector do you prefer? I've used Pennywize and ProxyPass.

I've used ProxyPass and Pennywize and some custom stuff, but none of the others. I want to replace my Pennywize installs right now. I tried ProxyPass and Pennywize together for a while, but ProxyPass seemed to be looking at really different usage from Pennywize and that concerned me and then ProxyPass got kinda squirrely on what the price was and I hate when anyone tries to change a deal after they have made it, so I stopped using ProxyPass, although I may still have an unused install of it on my servers. Pennywize is giving me an error where it keeps blocking my IP. I FTP in and remove it from the blocked list, of course, but one page reload is all it takes to get my IP re-blocked. I'm concerned that, if I can't make a login from my own computer work, are my members getting this kind of frustration with Pennywize?

So I want to try something else. Recommendations?

TMM_John 12-04-2008 07:51 PM

Strongbox for sure.

After Shock Media 12-04-2008 08:41 PM

The only one you listed that doesnt start with the letter P

stevo 12-04-2008 08:45 PM

Completely satisfied with StrongBox...

spunky99 12-04-2008 08:48 PM

proxypass most definately

April777 12-04-2008 08:55 PM

I like proxypass and strongbox

icymelon 12-04-2008 09:10 PM

I have heard only good things about strong box for years I plan on giving it a try when I get my paysite online

BlueDude 12-04-2008 09:36 PM

Strongbox.

Oliver Klozov 12-04-2008 10:24 PM

StrongBox fo sho!!!

Easy to use, priced right and very good considerate tech support.

TisMe 12-04-2008 10:38 PM

StrongBox plus ThrottleBox rules!

Unbeatable support too.

MicDoohan 12-04-2008 10:39 PM

Strongbox is the one to use.

NaughtyRob 12-04-2008 10:54 PM

Proxypass kicks serious ass, better than strong box in that you get protection on the whole server not just one site at a time.

raymor 12-05-2008 09:43 AM

Thanks for all of the compliments. Now if we can just get Strongbox 4.0 done we'll
really DESERVE your praise! ;)

CIVMatt 12-05-2008 09:45 AM

eta raymor?

MaDalton 12-05-2008 09:49 AM

we use phantom frog and it works excellent

pennywize cost me $2500 in bandwidth charges

Easton 12-05-2008 09:53 AM

i've been running strongbox on every one of my sites since 2004 - love it

SkeetSkeet 12-05-2008 10:04 AM

strongbox hands down!

SordidMedia 12-05-2008 10:09 AM

Another vote here for Strongbox...a truly first class product.

Robbie 12-05-2008 10:24 AM

Phantom Frog user here. Absolutely ZERO problems with password sharing and/or Brute Force attacks. :)

F-U-Jimmy 12-05-2008 10:33 AM

http://botbuster.com/php/features.php

Daddy Big Nuts 12-05-2008 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 15145826)
Strongbox for sure.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Kudles 12-05-2008 11:22 AM

I like strongbox

raymor 12-05-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 15149124)
eta raymor?

It's hard to say for sure as we have to adjust our priorities
to match webmasters' needs. Due to the Alphared thing we
had to put a rush on Clonebox, as people were needing it
right away. Right now I'm thinking a couple more months until
the full public release.

One large network of sites is running a pre-production version right
now which includes some of the features such the basic biometrics
which identify the actual human being rather than the IP or computer.
However, other features like improved geo-tracking have only been
tested separately and still need to be integrated and there is a bit of
work left to do to organize the huge amount of information we track so
that it's easy for webmasters to understand. What all of that means is
that for webmasters who really need it, a version is available now,
and the rest largely depends on how much of the UI work can be
done by someone we're looking to hire and how much feedback we
get from webmasters - sometimes you guys give us an idea which
would have taken us many hours to figure out on our own.

georgiaasphalt 12-05-2008 01:10 PM

Phantom Frog user. No issues and love the automated support.

tranza 12-05-2008 01:41 PM

I thought you're talking about pennywise band, hehehehe.

aico 12-05-2008 01:45 PM

Strongbox, but have only used it and Pennywize, so can't really compare it to the other two.

gmr324 12-07-2008 09:07 PM

Hi Amelia,

I represent Phantom Frog and sent you an
ICQ and email.

Our Hi-Resolution Geo-IP Tracking offers the most
accurate password abuse detection available anywhere.
It tracks all visits to the members area of a site
down to the city level. Furthermore, it takes
latitudal and longitudal data into consideration.
Therefore, Frog detects the fact that the same
password was used in L.A. and NYC. We pinpoint the
abuse instantly, allowing for the possibility of
legitimate travel. That level of resolution is
unique to Phantom Frog.

Our system is based upon the premise of providing
24/7 uninterrupted access to the legitimate members
while blocking out the leechers. This is accomplished
automatically through our Automated Member Support
(AMS) feature. When password abuse is detected, the
password is changed. The next time the valid member
tries to login, Frog uses their email address to
validate their identity and issues them a new password
directly via email. This strategy breaks the cycle of
password abuse and frees up the webmasters to do more
important work.

Phantom Frog is the only system to offer a FREE Trial Version
which installs by adding one html tag or we can handle the
installation completely for you for. In fact, we recommend
that you leave ProxyPass or Pennywize activated during
our Trial to witness first-hand all the abuse being missed by
them!

So, whether you are using Strongbox, ProxyPass, Pennywize
or any other system, our Free Trial enables you to run a
parallel test of the two systems comparing their abuse
detection capabilities directly. As evidenced by the webmaster testimonials listed on our site, this is how our clients discovered how much abuse was "flying under the radar" of their current system and were motivated to use Frog.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or feedback.

Click Here To Learn More About Phantom Frog

Visit this link to try our no-obligation FREE Trial

Major (Tom) 12-07-2008 10:04 PM

strongbox

Duke

NETbilling 12-09-2008 02:38 PM

Hi Amelia,

We have many NETbilling merchants using Phantom Frog and while I do not know the technical differences, I have heard noting but great things.

Thanks, Mitch

Kudles 12-13-2008 03:49 PM

Strongbox for sure

FelixFlow 12-15-2008 06:22 PM

PhantomFrog kicks ass and saves you time replying to customer service emails (most all of them)...gotta factor in your time (and how much it saves) into any equation :)

perfectodollars-gabrio 12-16-2008 02:01 AM

we have right now strongbox and are happy with it, plus they have a big range of products in their "-box" family that you could also like.

DamianJ 12-16-2008 06:42 AM

Only used the Frog, but more than happy with it.

JimmiDean 12-16-2008 06:53 AM

Phantom Frog great program and Bill is first class.


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