Where does this law come from? - GoFuckYourself.com

DragonAss · 11-11-2002, 09:25 AM

I know, I know... I'm on legal kick lately.

I'd imagine this law's been around for a little while but I searched congress to find out when/how this went into effect... to no avail. Does anyone know how to cross reference the US Code at Cornell Law with the Thomas Library of Congress other than searching for keywords? The whole "obscene" set of laws is pretty fucked up... but, despite its arguable relativity to physical goods only, this one carries the gist of them all:

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Sec. 1462. - Importation or transportation of obscene matters

Whoever brings into the United States, or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, or knowingly uses any express company or other common carrier or interactive computer service (as defined in section 230(e)(2) [1] of the Communications Act of 1934), for carriage in interstate or foreign commerce -

(a)

any obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy book, pamphlet, picture, motion-picture film, paper, letter, writing, print, or other matter of indecent character; or

(b)

any obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy phonograph recording, electrical transcription, or other article or thing capable of producing sound; or

(c)

any drug, medicine, article, or thing designed, adapted, or intended for producing abortion, or for any indecent or immoral use; or any written or printed card, letter, circular, book, pamphlet, advertisement, or notice of any kind giving information, directly or indirectly, where, how, or of whom, or by what means any of such mentioned articles, matters, or things may be obtained or made; or

Whoever knowingly takes or receives, from such express company or other common carrier or interactive computer service (as defined in section 230(e)(2) [1] of the Communications Act of 1934) any matter or thing the carriage or importation of which is herein made unlawful -

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both, for the first such offense and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, for each such offense thereafter

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/pIch71.html (§1462)
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I mean come on. Outlaw anything made "for any indecent or immoral use" ... "or other matter of indecent character"?! Yeah, now there's a congressional team of experts who worked this obscenty thing down to a legal science. Fucking retards.

Couldn't, nay, shouldn't most of this garbage be struck down as unconstitutional? I thought Flynt went through much of this type of crap and emerged victorious? What'd I miss?

If anyone can learn me gooder with a url (articles, case law, databases, etc), it'd be appreciated.

DragonAss · 11-11-2002, 09:31 AM

PS - I know the law comes from congress (for any wise-asses ready to answer that

). I'm looking for the bill itself.... you know, something like "S.146 Homland Security: Bankers Know Your Customers' Hygene Act" ... with a dash of hidden "Fuck Pornography" on page 237.

corvo · 11-11-2002, 04:29 PM

don't you love it when they use general emotive terms to set legal boundries

KRL · 11-11-2002, 04:59 PM

Dude, there are still laws on the books in some states banning oral sex between couples in the USA. Its hard to keep up with them all. Just don't go over the edge and use the sites that have law firms to judge what the edge is and you'll be fine.

redmf · 11-11-2002, 07:06 PM

If I get a some sloppy lovin will I go to jail?

spends alotta time in dark places

Webby · 11-11-2002, 09:19 PM

Love that clearly defined legal terminology - "filthy book" - who the fuck writes that shit, some amateurs? *g*

11-11-2002, 09:25 AM	#1
DragonAss Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Philly, PA USA Posts: 206	Where does this law come from? I know, I know... I'm on legal kick lately. I'd imagine this law's been around for a little while but I searched congress to find out when/how this went into effect... to no avail. Does anyone know how to cross reference the US Code at Cornell Law with the Thomas Library of Congress other than searching for keywords? The whole "obscene" set of laws is pretty fucked up... but, despite its arguable relativity to physical goods only, this one carries the gist of them all: --------------------------------------- Sec. 1462. - Importation or transportation of obscene matters Whoever brings into the United States, or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, or knowingly uses any express company or other common carrier or interactive computer service (as defined in section 230(e)(2) [1] of the Communications Act of 1934), for carriage in interstate or foreign commerce - (a) any obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy book, pamphlet, picture, motion-picture film, paper, letter, writing, print, or other matter of indecent character; or (b) any obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy phonograph recording, electrical transcription, or other article or thing capable of producing sound; or (c) any drug, medicine, article, or thing designed, adapted, or intended for producing abortion, or for any indecent or immoral use; or any written or printed card, letter, circular, book, pamphlet, advertisement, or notice of any kind giving information, directly or indirectly, where, how, or of whom, or by what means any of such mentioned articles, matters, or things may be obtained or made; or Whoever knowingly takes or receives, from such express company or other common carrier or interactive computer service (as defined in section 230(e)(2) [1] of the Communications Act of 1934) any matter or thing the carriage or importation of which is herein made unlawful - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both, for the first such offense and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, for each such offense thereafter http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/pIch71.html (§1462) ---------------------------------- I mean come on. Outlaw anything made "for any indecent or immoral use" ... "or other matter of indecent character"?! Yeah, now there's a congressional team of experts who worked this obscenty thing down to a legal science. Fucking retards. Couldn't, nay, shouldn't most of this garbage be struck down as unconstitutional? I thought Flynt went through much of this type of crap and emerged victorious? What'd I miss? If anyone can learn me gooder with a url (articles, case law, databases, etc), it'd be appreciated.

11-11-2002, 04:29 PM	#3
corvo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 253	don't you love it when they use general emotive terms to set legal boundries __________________ <a href="http://www.liondollars.com/"></a><br> Corvo.....

11-11-2002, 07:06 PM	#5
redmf Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: all over the U.S. Posts: 77	If I get a some sloppy lovin will I go to jail? spends alotta time in dark places __________________ http://www.rachelseroticdiary.com

11-11-2002, 09:31 AM	#2
DragonAss Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Philly, PA USA Posts: 206	PS - I know the law comes from congress (for any wise-asses ready to answer that ). I'm looking for the bill itself.... you know, something like "S.146 Homland Security: Bankers Know Your Customers' Hygene Act" ... with a dash of hidden "Fuck Pornography" on page 237.

11-11-2002, 04:59 PM	#4
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Dude, there are still laws on the books in some states banning oral sex between couples in the USA. Its hard to keep up with them all. Just don't go over the edge and use the sites that have law firms to judge what the edge is and you'll be fine.

11-11-2002, 09:19 PM	#6
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Love that clearly defined legal terminology - "filthy book" - who the fuck writes that shit, some amateurs? g