: boyalley

So people know some have been paid and he is responding to support tickets. Awaiting my payment tomorrow. I don't want to get involved in the whole personality, past with re: to him, etc. But thought I'd let you know.

Karma is a vicious circle. Remember Edgeprod's lies, cheating, fake patents and harassing others?

Great news, thanks for the update. I hate to see people get screwed out of money. :2 cents:

Payment options:
1. bank wire
2. check
3. Gold Dubloons
4. Pieces of Eight

Nice guys finish last. He wrote you the bad check and ripped you off. Anything that the district attorney does that causes hardship on his kids, will be because of his actions. You think Chio would give a shit about your kids if the situation was reversed?

You think he gives a shit about anyone at all? Fuck that guy.

In related news:
Somali Pirates who hijacked a Ukrainian ship loaded with weapons have received a ransom and have left the vessel.

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Chio isn't the reason my reputation got smashed on GFY, though. I did that to myself by my actions and the people I chose to trust and include in my ventures.

But you're right ... the statute of limitations is surely up, but it would have been a good thing to pursue at the time.

Every time I get into my Viper, I think of Chio's tan Ford Expedition. I have a picture of it (well, I have a picture of the front of his house, and the car is there, too), and it cracks me up every time. Success is the best revenge, really.

Cheers and for what it's worth sorry to read about what happened to you. You've taken it pretty well considering the amount lol. :Oh crap

What can I possibly do about it? People with no money are effectively judgment-proof ... and it was a couple of years ago, so ...

I hope you get your money tomorrow, but as a guy who heard the "I'll pay you tomorrow" song and dance for a LONG time with this guy ... I worry. :( If it's a small amount, it might happen, but I wouldn't expect any "big" payments.

Its probable.

5 mins ago you were defending him and now he's a scammer
tell me who your friends are and ill tell you who you are....

I haven't seen him defending Chio. I saw him tell us what he knew, but I don't think he'd ever be supporting Chio.

The guy didn't pay him and HUNG him out to dry during all the ABP drama.

I spoke to him and he explained things, but I'm not sure why he hasn't posted here.

Uh ... Yeah? Why wouldn't I?

You keep bringing up that $14k check. Sounds like you really miss that money.

Funny, because I remember chatting with you on ICQ and you were bragging how you had been making $40k/month with your uber SEO free site building script.

Guess it was same bullshit as the autoblogger and the other hyped up stuff from Chio and Co.

:1orglaugh sorry I was drunk and fucking around.

Luckily he paid me yesterday, everything he owed me. Only a few hundred bucks, but I'm happy that I'm out now.

Shit I have like 33 14k nsf checks laying here. I don't care cause Im such a bawler. 14k is what I spend on toilet paper a week yo!

I don't care if you are a billionaire you don't let 14k go and not give it a second thought. Thats half of the average workers salary. Same old DJ. lmao

He keeps bringing it up, how he wasted a year of his life yada, yada.

If you make $40k/month and get scammed for 14k you just write it off, chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on - not cry on internet boards how unfair life is.

I have to agree with you

my only comment on the abp thing was i bought it thinking it updated blogger as it was adveritised as such,.. however after purchasing found out, it in fact no longer supported blogger

i thought that kind of sucked but wrote it off as lack of my own self and finding out if it worked as sold, and not asking beforeheand, however, it was advertised as working with blogger... so I don't blame myself.

I was supposed to continue development of ABP. I did a couple of fixes on it but it sorta all fell through after a while.

he said he was owed $100k for that whole year, not $14k

not sure how someone can work for 1 year for free and end up being owed $100k, but this thread is about Chio afterall, not edgeprod

Glad to hear :)

you should really see a doctor.

There is no fucking way they sold enough copies of APB to warrant a $100k coding payment.

I'd like to take a day and write an ABP clone and make $100k off it :D

Lucky you. He still owes me several hundred dollars and will not respond to emails, ICQ's etc. You know, if he would have answered and said "Listen, this is what happened, I am totally broke, I can't pay you for a year I would have considered him a stand up guy.

Real men face situations that are uncomfortable and take responsibility, and find solutions. Scammers, babies and jerks hide. Karma is a bitch

$14k was the NSF check he wrote me -- a fraction of what he owed. I might have explained that better if I'd thought you were unbanned and would show up. Sorry.

He kept saying what he's apparently been saying to people now: "I'll pay soon," "the check is in the mail," etc, etc. He justified not paying the other guy because after MONTHS of not being paid, the other guy stopped coding, and Chio was like "Oh, he forfeits everything now" .. so I didn't want that to happen to me. Life lesson. But thanks for pointing out what you pointed out ... I didn't think his reading comprehension could be so low, but then I remembered the source, right?


You're kidding yourself if you don't think that thing sold a lot of copies. I remember one month alone over $20,000. Think about it: that's only 67 copies to get to $20,000 ... I think it sold 30+ the first day it was announced ... a LOT of people here have it ... and GFY isn't the only place it was sold. I know a bunch of people here who had tons of affiliate sales for it, too (some of them even got paid). It's a LOT of money .. and he kept it all, didn't support anyone, and now it isn't updated.

I'm happy people like Brujah (although I have him on ignore, I assume he's still around) scammed him by getting refunds then keeping in on their server long afterwards ... karma at its finest.

You may have your issues with brujah but he's one of the best guys I know in this entire industry.

I don't personally have any issues with Brujah. He didn't scam me, since I didn't get paid anyway. He used to come into threads talking random shit about me, but I put him on ignore long ago. The only reason I mentioned him was I couldn't think of the names of the other people who asked for refunds or did charge-backs then left the software running on their servers.

I wish Brujah the best, and if he wanted to bury whatever hatchet he has with me, he should feel free to contact me via ICQ and I'd be happy to see if there's something we can do together.

Thanks for your thoughts, Uno .. you know I've always respected you and your opinions. :)

Before getting involved in anyway with edgeprod (or anyone else really), be sure you ask around and look up his past scams first.

Anyone looking for a coder, I've heard great things about k0nr4d and he's always been a pleasure to talk to.

:) Thanks

chio is a good guy

you gfyers crack me up. i have seen this time after time. how can people be so gullible. and it's doesn't matter what someone did, there's always someone who says 'he's a good guy'

he scammed for me 300g's
oh i know he did, but he's a good guy

he's a good guy

he's a good guy

he has great taste in hats

I enjoy hats as well, although I can't say I have great taste.

Yet, I hear you taste great.

So, anyone gonna spill the beans on his "personal problems"?

Just got this in my inbox from [email protected]:

RE: Problems regarding payments

As you may or may not know there have been some issues with our ACH payment system. Our ACH Merchant Gateway has now just announced that they will no longer be able to process any ACH transactions (Credit, Debit, or Merchant Settlements). You can follow this link (https://gateway.allianceach.com/update.pdf) for the letter I received from them today.

The problem with them started in January but there was hope that it would be fixed. Unfortunately it appears it will not happen.

What this means for you. If you are not using our ACH system you are not affected by this and you can disregard this message. If you are using our ACH system you will need to select another payout method on your acct. Wire is the obvious solution, but if you prefer we can offer payouts via Paypal as well until a new ACH solution is found.

I regret the problems this may have caused for you and thank you for your patience in this matter.

Thank you
James

Anyway this is not new stuff.. I remember a guy in this forum like 1 year ago, saying that Chio was a scammer and that people should take care about moving to his billing system.. Guess what! That guy got banned for not having proof, lol!!!! Just do a search.

Now after 1 year of not listening, you guys see what happened. You even banned the messenger.

You asked to swallow ...

I hope not. It's no one's business what the problems were, in my opinion. We don't even know if the payment issues were caused by any problems he may or may not be having. If those personal problems (if they exist) affected the business such that payments weren't made, then that's a valid issue .. but I don't think it's anyone's business what they actually WERE.

Chio is the only person that should be posting that kind of thing, and only if he chooses to do so. Some of us can guess at what they are, from knowing him, and it's a situation that even someone of your moral fiber would probably feel bad about prying into.

I personally don't think he "owes" any explanation to anyone besides VC webmasters, and only to the extent that he didn't pay what was owed on time, not the "personal" reason why.

I think I've said enough about this.


Ouch, that's harsh. For those too lazy or incompetent (or both, like me) to search .. got a link?

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