Ammo for Us When People Bitch About Porn!?

[davecummings]

I emailed this to Ron Jeremy in case it might be ammunition he can use in the college debates he often does against those who think porn is baaaaaad:

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NEWS 01/29/2009

By Mark Kernes


Ohio Study: More Internet Porn Equals Less Rape
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Scientific evidence remains powerful, if inconclusive
By Mark Kernes


AKRON, Oh. - Columnist Bob Dyer of the Akron Beacon Journal noticed something interesting about sex crimes among juveniles in his county: They're at their lowest rate since Summit County began keeping records of such things back in '89.

This being Ohio, however, "Officials are baffled as to why," Dyer reported.

Dyer also was interested, and began researching the subject - which led him to, among other sources, the Akron Family Institute, where a pair of psychologists opined that since rape is usually not so much about sex as it is about "control and power," the decrease has to do with women being more able to protect themselves, or perhaps the cops have been charging juveniles with lesser offenses so they don't wind up in the sex offender database for the rest of their lives.


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Dyer didn't buy it - nor did he buy the idea that stricter laws have led to the decrease, nor the idea that more sex crimes are going unreported.

What he was willing to buy was the idea that since sexual material is much more available on the Web than it was in '89, and since computer access by juveniles has been steadily increasing over the past 20 years, the kids are getting off on watching porn on their computers so they don't have to get off by assaulting their friends or strangers.

"My gut says that, although easy porn might not be the total explanation, it's a big part of it," Dyer wrote.

It's not as if Dyer doesn't have a fair amount of scientific evidence to back him up. As AVN noted one year ago in our article titled Northwestern Univ. Law Professor: Porn Decreases Rape , Prof. Anthony D'Amato examined the U.S. Department of Justice's statistics for rape and attempted rape from 1980 to 2004, and noticed an 85% decrease - and also noticed, from data compiled by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, that the four states with the most per-capita Internet access - Alaska, Colorado, New Jersey, and Washington - had a 27% decrease in rape over that period, while the four states with the least per-capita Internet access - Arkansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, and West Virginia - saw a 53% increase.

Of course, as the scientific maxim goes, correlation is not causation - but Dyer also looked at a paper authored by Todd D. Kendall, an Assistant Professor at the Clemson University Department of Economics, in Sept., 2006, who concluded that, "The results above suggest that potential rapists perceive pornography as a substitute for rape . With the mass market introduction of the world wide web in the late-1990's, both pecuniary and non-pecuniary prices for pornography fell. The associated decline in rape illustrated in the analysis here is consistent with a theory, such as that in Posner (1994), in which pornography is a complement for masturbation or consensual sex, which are themselves substitutes for rape, making pornography a net substitute for rape."

Kendall warned that due to "limitations of the data," any policy decisions based on his data should be taken with care, but stated, "Nevertheless, the results suggest that, in contrast to previous theories to the contrary, liberalization of pornography access may lead to declines in sexual victimization of women."

And now, thanks to Dyer, even folks in anti-porn strongholds like Cincinnati may get an inkling that the hysterical screeds from Citizens for Community Values may not be the last word as to the social effects of sexually explicit material.



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Dave

[jmcb420]

We're doing a good job.


Now if we could only get people to stop breeding.


BTW, I met Ron once in Youngstown, ohio. Super nice guy.

[Compdoctor]

Nice idea's, wonder if it will hold water. Remember the minds you are feeding this smart stuff too.

[JD]

doesn't matter if it was proven that more porn meant free money for everyone. MOST people (publicly) think porn is evil/dirty/a sin/etc and want it banished. But now their own private collection of S&M pissing videos :/

Porn will forever be a "dirty" industry at least in the US

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

We're doing a good job.


Now if we could only get people to stop breeding.


BTW, I met Ron once in Youngstown, ohio. Super nice guy.

You from Youngstown? I grew up about 15 minutes away from there.

[davecummings]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

We're doing a good job.


Now if we could only get people to stop breeding.


BTW, I met Ron once in Youngstown, ohio. Super nice guy.

Ron is indeed a nice guy; but, my biggest nightmare is to be in back of the line for the Sunday Brunch at the LaCosta Country Club and see him at the head of the line (possibly for his 3d trip, or more, through it?)!!!!

:-)

[Michaelious]

Interesting article

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You from Youngstown? I grew up about 15 minutes away from there.

I live about 5 minutes from Youngstown.

Where abouts was it that you lived?

World feels a little smaller now.

[baddog]

For some reason I flashed back to my youth and heard my father say, "you can prove anything with statistics . . . either way."

[hypedough]

Originally Posted by baddog

For some reason I flashed back to my youth and heard my father say, "you can prove anything with statistics . . . either way."

Very true dude.

[tony286]

dave read this book its a eye opener
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/12/07/184442.php

[Robbie]

In my opinion if everyone had an orgasm everyday there would definitely be a lot less violence and anger in this world. Frustrated people do crazy shit. And it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have 'em smoke a joint while they got off. Then everybody would be double mellow.

Look at the muslims in the mideast. They are so uptight and pissed off...maybe if they could see their women naked and hot and fuck 'em every day they would chill out a bit.

[davecummings]

Originally Posted by tony404

dave read this book its a eye opener
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/12/07/184442.php

Thanks,Tony404.

Marty Klein is one very sharp guy --he is among those who lobby the California Legislature with the Free Speech Coalition each Spring. He has credability, is respected, and is well known. His free monthly emailed newsletters rock!

[psili]

Originally Posted by op article

"Nevertheless, the results suggest that, in contrast to previous theories to the contrary, liberalization of pornography access may lead to declines in sexual victimization of women."

Kudos to the women in porn.
Thumbs up.

[DVTimes]

it still will not change the minds of those who hate porn.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Look at the muslims in the mideast. They are so uptight and pissed off...maybe if they could see their women naked and hot and fuck 'em every day they would chill out a bit.

I agree, I'd be one frustrated individual if my girl walked around looking like this all day.

[NaughtyRob]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I grew up about 15 minutes away from there.

Me too.

Good stuff Dave, interesting article.

[davecummings]

Originally Posted by allanuk

it still will not change the minds of those who hate porn.

Many of the folks who are against porn have impressed me as hypocrites who say one thing (as loud and vile as possible) against us, but sometimes are the same ones who fantasize and masturbate (or worse, are priests who target kids, or politicians who profess holiness after getting caught in airport bathroom stalls, or in Escort patronage), but after cumming go out and deal with it by trying "harder" to behave, until the next time they seek out a sexual fantasy and/or climax whereupon they repeat their hypocritical cycle all over again.

I've also noticed that many of the females are overweight loudmouths who certainly lack sexiness to get into xxx magazines or on sites ---I sense they have self-esteem problems, possibly more so than they actually have objective problems with porn. And, many of the guys couldn't score no matter how much money they spent trying--I wonder if the male hypocrites suffer from small penis disappointment:-)!

End of rant!

[EthnicLover]

Thanks for the info. Every little bit helps.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by davecummings

Many of the folks who are against porn have impressed me as hypocrites who say one thing (as loud and vile as possible) against us, but sometimes are the same ones who fantasize and masturbate (or worse, are priests who target kids, or politicians who profess holiness after getting caught in airport bathroom stalls, or in Escort patronage), but after cumming go out and deal with it by trying "harder" to behave, until the next time they seek out a sexual fantasy and/or climax whereupon they repeat their hypocritical cycle all over again.

I've also noticed that many of the females are overweight loudmouths who certainly lack sexiness to get into xxx magazines or on sites ---I sense they have self-esteem problems, possibly more so than they actually have objective problems with porn. And, many of the guys couldn't score no matter how much money they spent trying--I wonder if the male hypocrites suffer from small penis disappointment:-)!

End of rant!

the over weight thing is a stereo type and makes us no better than what they say about us. go look up donna rice hughes she is against us all big time and very hot.