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  • davecummings
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    • Oct 2003
    • 2922

    #1

    Ammo for Us When People Bitch About Porn!?

    I emailed this to Ron Jeremy in case it might be ammunition he can use in the college debates he often does against those who think porn is baaaaaad:

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    AVN Online Home : Articles : Ohio Study: More Internet Porn Equals Less Rape
    NEWS 01/29/2009

    By Mark Kernes


    Ohio Study: More Internet Porn Equals Less Rape
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    Scientific evidence remains powerful, if inconclusive
    By Mark Kernes


    AKRON, Oh. - Columnist Bob Dyer of the Akron Beacon Journal noticed something interesting about sex crimes among juveniles in his county: They're at their lowest rate since Summit County began keeping records of such things back in '89.

    This being Ohio, however, "Officials are baffled as to why," Dyer reported.

    Dyer also was interested, and began researching the subject - which led him to, among other sources, the Akron Family Institute, where a pair of psychologists opined that since rape is usually not so much about sex as it is about "control and power," the decrease has to do with women being more able to protect themselves, or perhaps the cops have been charging juveniles with lesser offenses so they don't wind up in the sex offender database for the rest of their lives.


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    Dyer didn't buy it - nor did he buy the idea that stricter laws have led to the decrease, nor the idea that more sex crimes are going unreported.

    What he was willing to buy was the idea that since sexual material is much more available on the Web than it was in '89, and since computer access by juveniles has been steadily increasing over the past 20 years, the kids are getting off on watching porn on their computers so they don't have to get off by assaulting their friends or strangers.

    "My gut says that, although easy porn might not be the total explanation, it's a big part of it," Dyer wrote.

    It's not as if Dyer doesn't have a fair amount of scientific evidence to back him up. As AVN noted one year ago in our article titled Northwestern Univ. Law Professor: Porn Decreases Rape , Prof. Anthony D'Amato examined the U.S. Department of Justice's statistics for rape and attempted rape from 1980 to 2004, and noticed an 85% decrease - and also noticed, from data compiled by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, that the four states with the most per-capita Internet access - Alaska, Colorado, New Jersey, and Washington - had a 27% decrease in rape over that period, while the four states with the least per-capita Internet access - Arkansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, and West Virginia - saw a 53% increase.

    Of course, as the scientific maxim goes, correlation is not causation - but Dyer also looked at a paper authored by Todd D. Kendall, an Assistant Professor at the Clemson University Department of Economics, in Sept., 2006, who concluded that, "The results above suggest that potential rapists perceive pornography as a substitute for rape . With the mass market introduction of the world wide web in the late-1990's, both pecuniary and non-pecuniary prices for pornography fell. The associated decline in rape illustrated in the analysis here is consistent with a theory, such as that in Posner (1994), in which pornography is a complement for masturbation or consensual sex, which are themselves substitutes for rape, making pornography a net substitute for rape."

    Kendall warned that due to "limitations of the data," any policy decisions based on his data should be taken with care, but stated, "Nevertheless, the results suggest that, in contrast to previous theories to the contrary, liberalization of pornography access may lead to declines in sexual victimization of women."

    And now, thanks to Dyer, even folks in anti-porn strongholds like Cincinnati may get an inkling that the hysterical screeds from Citizens for Community Values may not be the last word as to the social effects of sexually explicit material.



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  • jmcb420
    So Fucking Drunk
    • Oct 2006
    • 2155

    #2
    We're doing a good job.


    Now if we could only get people to stop breeding.


    BTW, I met Ron once in Youngstown, ohio. Super nice guy.
    Last edited by jmcb420; 01-30-2009, 08:51 PM.
    I'm funner than AIDS, and easier to explain to your parents.

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    • Compdoctor
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      • Aug 2001
      • 1937

      #3
      Nice idea's, wonder if it will hold water. Remember the minds you are feeding this smart stuff too.
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      • JD
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Sep 2003
        • 22651

        #4
        doesn't matter if it was proven that more porn meant free money for everyone. MOST people (publicly) think porn is evil/dirty/a sin/etc and want it banished. But now their own private collection of S&M pissing videos :/

        Porn will forever be a "dirty" industry at least in the US

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        • stickyfingerz
          Doin fine
          • Oct 2005
          • 24984

          #5
          Originally posted by jmcb420
          We're doing a good job.


          Now if we could only get people to stop breeding.


          BTW, I met Ron once in Youngstown, ohio. Super nice guy.
          You from Youngstown? I grew up about 15 minutes away from there.

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          • davecummings
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2003
            • 2922

            #6
            Originally posted by jmcb420
            We're doing a good job.


            Now if we could only get people to stop breeding.


            BTW, I met Ron once in Youngstown, ohio. Super nice guy.
            Ron is indeed a nice guy; but, my biggest nightmare is to be in back of the line for the Sunday Brunch at the LaCosta Country Club and see him at the head of the line (possibly for his 3d trip, or more, through it?)!!!!

            :-)
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            • Michaelious
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              • Jan 2004
              • 6720

              #7
              Interesting article

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              • jmcb420
                So Fucking Drunk
                • Oct 2006
                • 2155

                #8
                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                You from Youngstown? I grew up about 15 minutes away from there.
                I live about 5 minutes from Youngstown.

                Where abouts was it that you lived?

                World feels a little smaller now.
                Last edited by jmcb420; 01-31-2009, 02:27 PM.
                I'm funner than AIDS, and easier to explain to your parents.

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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #9
                  For some reason I flashed back to my youth and heard my father say, "you can prove anything with statistics . . . either way."

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                  • hypedough
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3743

                    #10
                    Originally posted by baddog
                    For some reason I flashed back to my youth and heard my father say, "you can prove anything with statistics . . . either way."
                    Very true dude.

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                    • tony299
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 57021

                      #11
                      dave read this book its a eye opener
                      http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/12/07/184442.php

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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960

                        #12
                        In my opinion if everyone had an orgasm everyday there would definitely be a lot less violence and anger in this world. Frustrated people do crazy shit. And it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have 'em smoke a joint while they got off. Then everybody would be double mellow.

                        Look at the muslims in the mideast. They are so uptight and pissed off...maybe if they could see their women naked and hot and fuck 'em every day they would chill out a bit.
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                        • davecummings
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2922

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tony404
                          dave read this book its a eye opener
                          http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/12/07/184442.php
                          Thanks,Tony404.

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                          • psili
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 5526

                            #14
                            Originally posted by op article
                            "Nevertheless, the results suggest that, in contrast to previous theories to the contrary, liberalization of pornography access may lead to declines in sexual victimization of women."
                            Kudos to the women in porn.
                            Thumbs up.
                            Your post count means nothing.

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                            • DVTimes
                              xxx
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 31658

                              #15
                              it still will not change the minds of those who hate porn.
                              XXX

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                              • jmcb420
                                So Fucking Drunk
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2155

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                Look at the muslims in the mideast. They are so uptight and pissed off...maybe if they could see their women naked and hot and fuck 'em every day they would chill out a bit.
                                I agree, I'd be one frustrated individual if my girl walked around looking like this all day.


                                I'm funner than AIDS, and easier to explain to your parents.

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                                • NaughtyRob
                                  Two fresh affiliate progs
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 29602

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                  I grew up about 15 minutes away from there.
                                  Me too.

                                  Good stuff Dave, interesting article.
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                                  • davecummings
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 2922

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by allanuk
                                    it still will not change the minds of those who hate porn.
                                    Many of the folks who are against porn have impressed me as hypocrites who say one thing (as loud and vile as possible) against us, but sometimes are the same ones who fantasize and masturbate (or worse, are priests who target kids, or politicians who profess holiness after getting caught in airport bathroom stalls, or in Escort patronage), but after cumming go out and deal with it by trying "harder" to behave, until the next time they seek out a sexual fantasy and/or climax whereupon they repeat their hypocritical cycle all over again.

                                    I've also noticed that many of the females are overweight loudmouths who certainly lack sexiness to get into xxx magazines or on sites ---I sense they have self-esteem problems, possibly more so than they actually have objective problems with porn. And, many of the guys couldn't score no matter how much money they spent trying--I wonder if the male hypocrites suffer from small penis disappointment:-)!

                                    End of rant!
                                    Dave Cummings
                                    www.davecummings.com
                                    www.davecummings.tv
                                    San Diego

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                                    • EthnicLover
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                                      • Feb 2007
                                      • 1584

                                      #19
                                      Thanks for the info. Every little bit helps.


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                                      • tony299
                                        lurker
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by davecummings
                                        Many of the folks who are against porn have impressed me as hypocrites who say one thing (as loud and vile as possible) against us, but sometimes are the same ones who fantasize and masturbate (or worse, are priests who target kids, or politicians who profess holiness after getting caught in airport bathroom stalls, or in Escort patronage), but after cumming go out and deal with it by trying "harder" to behave, until the next time they seek out a sexual fantasy and/or climax whereupon they repeat their hypocritical cycle all over again.

                                        I've also noticed that many of the females are overweight loudmouths who certainly lack sexiness to get into xxx magazines or on sites ---I sense they have self-esteem problems, possibly more so than they actually have objective problems with porn. And, many of the guys couldn't score no matter how much money they spent trying--I wonder if the male hypocrites suffer from small penis disappointment:-)!

                                        End of rant!
                                        the over weight thing is a stereo type and makes us no better than what they say about us. go look up donna rice hughes she is against us all big time and very hot.

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