Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106459)

Yes, it does seem that history does have a way of repeating itself, and even the ones in power that are attempting to prevent a depression fully admit that they do not know if what they are doing will prevent a depression. We are far from being in a depression (25 % unemployment compared to 7% or less at this point) but who knows, it is certainly possible that another depression may occur before all is said and done. We recovered from the previous depression and I suspect we will again, if one occurs.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106438)

ooops .. I see you said " all elected " now ..

but still, my point is valid.

Clinton gets his dick sucked and it was ALL OVER media , day in and day out.

Bush pretty much drives the country into the ground and the only ones saying anything are the "nutcases" like me..

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106491)

"Bush pretty much drives the country into the ground and the only ones saying anything are the "nutcases" like me."

I think the entire nation is saying something and has been saying something for quite a long time, as President Bush (if I am not mistaken) has the lowest percentage of approval that any President has ever had since they have been taking polls. In addition the Republican Party just had a pretty devastating defeat in the Executive as well as the Congressional branches of government. His administrations populartity, as well as congress has been in the news daily for the past few years and if anything is in the news even more so now, so I don't think you "nutcases" are they only ones saying anthing.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106474)

People had actual assets back then man,
There were no credit cards, there weren't 2nd and third mortgages.
People didn't LIVE off their credit.
The dollar was actually worth something in gold.

This will be x2 easy.

Sure we recovered from the first, but how many millions died.. just so washington could sort out the money ..

I'm saying it's "around the corner"... it's not the great depression today.
but it's sure starting to look like the beginnings of one, no?

as for the feds fixing it .. You don't fix a bubble by printing more cash and inflating it more, You deflate the cash, increase interest rates and spend conservatively.

They are printing more money they don't have, inflating the dollar more, and spending more than ever.. please tell me how that fixes it.

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106507)

So maybe what is being done will not fix it. Economists debate this daily. I did not major in economics when I attended college so I do not have any expertise at all to offer about the economy, so I will let the economists and the pwoers that be debate it. What I do know is in my lifetime the economy has been in flux, sometimes it is better than at other times. I am not a happy camper because, currently I have lost more than 50% of my investments, but I also have been buying stock in which I have had the greatest losses because I think the economy will recover over a period of time and the market will go up to a point exceeding where it was, which was around 14,000.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106495)

Okay, You're right ..
We've said a few things .. bitched about him.

He Lied about WMD to go to war, which is still going on.
Clinton lied about a BJ that lasted 5 minutes maybe..

You tell me which got more media coverage and caused more drama?

And don't say, well clinton was under oath.
As far as I'm concerned .. if you're standing in front of the people that elected you, during a national address.. to lie then is just the same.

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106527)

"As far as you are concerned" does not equal a violation of Criminal Law, and perjury does.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106533)

Well hey, if you think it's all good to address the nation with lies, it goes to show why the country is fucked.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 15106539)

Actually he did hold his hand on the bible and swear "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States." The breaking of such an oath is considered an act of treason or high crime.

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 15105836)

Mr. McVeigh, your bomb is ready.
http://www2.indystar.com/library/fac...ng/murrah2.jpg

Fear + Paranoia + Misinformation + Kooks Like This = Dangerous situation

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106572)

Could it be that niether of the powers think they have enough evidence with which they could prosecute an Impeachment or a Criminal case?

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106597)

could it be because they have seen many presidents and single one of them have lied about one thing or another including egaging our military, and since they suspected that every President since and including George Washinton has lied to the nation about one thing or another they kind of used to it. It seems to be a part of our system of governance :winkwink:

If ya get a blowjob tho.. watch out!

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106414)

The members of the Supreme Court decide what is constitutional and what is not constitutional when they are petioned to do so. In the case of the Patriot Act, just as many other laws, when petitioned to do so they have knoced down different parts of the Patriot Act. We have a system with built in checks and balances and eventually will knock down what is determined to be unconstitutional.

The Federal Reserve will become unconstitutional when the Supreme Court rules that it is and not when some unauthorized entity says it is. The same applies to the others named.

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106616)

It was not a blowjob that was the problem, it was violating Criminal Law by perjuring himself in a Court of law, the Paula Jones civil law suit against President Clinton. The Republican controlled House had a clear cut case against him, provided free and clear by President Clinton, so they impeached him. The Senate did not convict him, but he was convicted in Court, had to pay a heavy fine and lost his license to practice law.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106631)

I'm sorry .. if he lied about something IN RELATION TO THE FUCKING COUNTRY I'd care..
he got his dick sucked.

He lied about it, just like 90% of us would if our wife was in the room!

This can not be compared to bush no matter how many times you say purgery.

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106414)

The members of the Supreme Court decide what is constitutional and what is not constitutional when they are petioned to do so.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106676)

To be clear, I don't think Clinton should've lied .. or was in the "right" to lie..

but I can't believe we moved to impeach a president over that, Compared to the things Bush's administration has done.

it just goes to show how stupid we all are.. We'll pay attention if the story includes a cock, otherwise, who gives a shit.

They are both crooked, and lots of dirty shit went on under Clintons admin aswell..

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 15105724)

The Militias in the US are having record counts of people wanting to join. Also gun sales are at a all time high too. I'm starting to think that something is in the pipe line.

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 15106693)

*cough*

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ? That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106709)

I suppose you have a point to make, but I am not sure what it is

Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 15106730)

https://youtube.com/v/3TW_WGANgA4&hl=en&fs=1

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106735)

dude, we get that you don't care..
Why not stick your videos in another thread?

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 15106722)

Revolution is NEVER a constitutional debate. Go up 1 dir level.

If you still don't understand, its not my job to pry your head out of your ass.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106741)

k thanks :)

fuck.. it's sad that you people don't give a shit.

Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites (Post 15106747)

There is not a need for revoulution as we had a revolution and estabished our independence, a constitution, three braches of government with built in checks and balances, and we still have the same independence, constitution, and three branches of government with built in checks and balances that we have always had. The very same system of governance we have always had.

If you have a thought about how we can replace our system of governance with a better system of governance then you of course are entitled to have that thought.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15106741)

k thanks :)

fuck.. it's sad that you people don't give a shit.

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 15106766)

People must focus on in their daily lives.

They do not have time to sit around wondering about the government. It is sad, but it is not that they don't give a shit.

There is no "YOU PEOPLE". There is only us.

Originally Posted by iMind (Post 15105762)

Which could lead to a revolt, no?

I thought there was a right to bare arms to protect the people from a tyranous goverment?

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15106998)

The right to bare arms was established so that the average citizen would be armed to help beat back the British invaders. That was the one and only reason it was put into the constitution. Without it we would still be subjects of the crown.

You can see what it has done to our society in modern times.

Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15106115)

All this talk that has been occupying the board lately about the economic crisis, nafta, or any other government conspiracy accomplishes nothing other than to occupy your time while things fall apart around you.

Now I am all for a good debate, but what is the point of debating and bickering and cringing behind your keyboards and waiting for the world to end?

If you see something wrong in the world around you, YOUR world, then I don't think sniveling on a board is going to change anything. It is almost as bad as ignoring the problems altogether. If you see something in the world around you and you don't lift a finger to actually try to change it, then what is the point of even complaining about it or worrying about it because as you point out, it is here and it is happening.

And I know some will say, but I AM doing something, I am spreading the word... Well, you're not. All you are doing is trying to get more people to see things the way you do, but fail to give them the tools required to do anything with that info other than to do what you just did. Paint more scary pictures to try and scare the shit out of people.

Fear mongering comes in many forms, but the dibilitating effects always amount to the same. And that is inaction or outright disbelief.

Everyone already knows the world is a scary place and if it is as bad as you think it is, and you only offer prognostic fear instead of real solutions for change you are simply rushing the process of decay.

The worst of these offenders is the "Conspiracy Theorist" who heaps up large doses of fear with no real solutions. In a thesis, I proposed that their efforts might actually be self defeating. Here is an excerpt:

"What if conspiracy theories are actually planted information, using the theorist as a tool for dissemination and disaccreditation? The conspiracy, while inherently true, is presented in such a manner as to allow the average citizen to dismiss it out of hand by the absurdity of its nature and the people who claim it to be true.

Most conspiracy theorists have only the short sighted focus of the problem at hand, or the end result of the conspiracy. Just as a doctor merely treats the symptom rather than the cause, a conspiracy theorist only draws a conclusion, never a solution...."

If you don't like the picture before you, don't bitch about, simply change it. :2 cents: