my rant on the adult numbers game - GoFuckYourself.com

vegasdude · 11-10-2002, 09:54 AM

well im feeling sick...

nothin in the bio 2day - can't eat cuz of my swallowed throat (no dirty ideas now!)

and I was thinking...

as most webmasters im a statswhore who check stats both website and sponsor stats.

unique visitors, where the traffic is from... how many sales I will make if I double the traffic etc.

I can use an hour easily daily on that.

So I descieded to compare my gambling site with my adult sponsors.

and it amazes me. My gambling site still converts at 1-30 on banner clicks.

now I take a look at my adult banner stats today and 600 clicks to sponor and zero sales...

This just blows my mind cuz the gambling site I have promoted heavily since 1999 but no slowing down´in sales...

Now the adultsite in question is fairly new and looks good.

Well im still to come to a conclusion cuz its bannerclicks - quality traffic then why the hell such a big difference on adult/gambling.

Done same comparison on several adultsponsors and the pattern is always the same.....

LUCL0NELY · 11-10-2002, 09:56 AM

they shave.

please give me a ref link to a gambling site. I want to promote them now.

vegasdude · 11-10-2002, 09:58 AM

cum on luc i hear the shave theory all the time - but I trust the sponsors i use. and most of the AP sites look really good.

learn the gambling biz first my friend and then maybe a few ref links

Jizar II · 11-10-2002, 10:04 AM

here are the answers buddy

sex vs gambling

and

free sex vs free gambling

Btw, please turn on your phone

Mutt · 11-10-2002, 10:06 AM

why won't you post the gambling site you promote?
what's the big secret?

anybody who gambles online should be put in a fucking mental hospital.

most adult sites don't even promote casinos anymore because the experience has always been so bad.

Are there good casino sponsors now? i have a sports site that will be up soon, well when the Indian i hired gets finished programming it, i'd love for their to be a good casion/sportsbook sponsor.

vegasdude · 11-10-2002, 10:11 AM

okay my own ebook sells 1-30 from banners.

www.roulettebucks.com

I have a casino sponsor www.lasseters.com.au/

today I have had 274 clicks and 27 signups....

its a big difference from my 0-600 today on the adultsponsor

sexyclicks · 11-10-2002, 10:15 AM

my opinion: women make a big difference
A woman will take out the CC in 2sec if she finds something that looks interesting.
Also gambling converts much better. Someone that clicks on the link saying "casino" most of the time is looking for a casino to play and not to jurk off and go. There is no such thing as free gambling(that's an oxymoron) - either you play or you don't, no other option there.
That's why you see in some PPC search engines bids up to 30$ for casinos and 30c for sex

Mutt · 11-10-2002, 10:16 AM

cool. thanks for posting.

ok you have had a bunch of signups at the casino. what is the payout? is it a flat rate per signup or is it a commission calculated on the net profit the casino makes on the surfer who signed up from your link?

it's an AU casino? i didnt even know they were legal in Australia.
I would have thought ScottPB and Dean from SexHit would be all over an opportunity in online gambling.

vegasdude · 11-10-2002, 10:18 AM

hey sexyclicks hit me up on icq one of these days....

Mutt,

I always go for commission!! Its and australian goverment regulated casino but its offlimits for australians to play in it I think... ohh and they do biz in american dollars

Naughty · 11-10-2002, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizar II
www.googlefight.com

Hey, that site is pretty helpfull!!
Thanks for the link, never heard of it before, it is awesome.

Mutt · 11-10-2002, 10:35 AM

yup it says it's licensed by the Aussie government.

what is the average commission you've been getting from a signup? in US dollars.

sexyclicks · 11-10-2002, 10:44 AM

It is much harder to get traffic to a gambling site (sorry no tgp here...). Also expensive if you need to buy some.
On the other hand you don't need to update, no huge hosting bills, no cheaters giving pswds to your members area and stealing your content etc. so you can focus 100% on promoting.

I've been doing porn and gambling for almost 3 years now. I love both industries. There are bad people everywhere and for sure you will need to be carefull. Find a solid casino sponsor and build some traffic. Trust me all you need is 3-4 good players that will spend 10K each, every week in your casino. Then you can do more and more stuff.

sexyclicks · 11-10-2002, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by vegasdude
hey sexyclicks hit me up on icq one of these days....

I will...np - maybe tomorrow from the office where I have access to more gambling stuff

I always wanted to ask you if your Roulette strategy works...I mean I don't want my players to win!!! I have many many portals and for sure I can promote your program in the new ones I'm making these days

Mutt · 11-10-2002, 10:49 AM

but the question is are you guys getting checks regularly from these casinos?

you said you have signups who go on to spend 10,000 at the casino. How much of that goes to you? Let's say the lady signs up and she gambles 10,000 bucks, loses half of it. The commission is 40% of 5,000 net profit to the casion. That's 2 grand. Are you getting those kind of checks?

vegasdude · 11-10-2002, 10:52 AM

hey sexyclicks my ebook is for the average gambler.. I talk about strategies and show them some... my strategy is most for offline play... but I wanted to talk to you for some time about doing some "testing"

hit me up tomorrow and you can read it yourself

Email: [email protected]
ICQ : 128575758

Vegas

vegasdude · 11-10-2002, 10:54 AM

Mutt lassester pays

and yes a few good players WILL give you checks like that!

sexyclicks · 11-10-2002, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
but the question is are you guys getting checks regularly from these casinos?

you said you have signups who go on to spend 10,000 at the casino. How much of that goes to you? Let's say the lady signs up and she gambles 10,000 bucks, loses half of it. The commission is 40% of 5,000 net profit to the casion. That's 2 grand. Are you getting those kind of checks?

Yes you will get these checks. I said before: there are bad companies in every industry. Carefully select your sponsors and you will get paid on time-every time. Exactly like porn

Naughty · 11-10-2002, 11:08 AM

Vegas, say I wanna start a new site about online gambling, could I resell your eBook to start of the gambling site?

I'm going to promote some gambling sites I signed up with last year, but as most of my traffic comes from sites where people are looking for 'free' things, I doubt I will find $2k players there. The basic rule is you must have at least some traffic of people interested in gambling or other things that COST money. Not free stuff.

vegasdude · 11-10-2002, 11:22 AM

naughty hit me up tomorrow when im at the office (like all day long)

time to eat here!

11-10-2002, 09:54 AM	#1
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	my rant on the adult numbers game well im feeling sick... nothin in the bio 2day - can't eat cuz of my swallowed throat (no dirty ideas now!) and I was thinking... as most webmasters im a statswhore who check stats both website and sponsor stats. unique visitors, where the traffic is from... how many sales I will make if I double the traffic etc. I can use an hour easily daily on that. So I descieded to compare my gambling site with my adult sponsors. and it amazes me. My gambling site still converts at 1-30 on banner clicks. now I take a look at my adult banner stats today and 600 clicks to sponor and zero sales... This just blows my mind cuz the gambling site I have promoted heavily since 1999 but no slowing down´in sales... Now the adultsite in question is fairly new and looks good. Well im still to come to a conclusion cuz its bannerclicks - quality traffic then why the hell such a big difference on adult/gambling. Done same comparison on several adultsponsors and the pattern is always the same..... __________________ Did you fucking talk to me??! Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

11-10-2002, 10:06 AM	#5
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	why won't you post the gambling site you promote? what's the big secret? anybody who gambles online should be put in a fucking mental hospital. most adult sites don't even promote casinos anymore because the experience has always been so bad. Are there good casino sponsors now? i have a sports site that will be up soon, well when the Indian i hired gets finished programming it, i'd love for their to be a good casion/sportsbook sponsor. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-10-2002, 10:16 AM	#8
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	cool. thanks for posting. ok you have had a bunch of signups at the casino. what is the payout? is it a flat rate per signup or is it a commission calculated on the net profit the casino makes on the surfer who signed up from your link? it's an AU casino? i didnt even know they were legal in Australia. I would have thought ScottPB and Dean from SexHit would be all over an opportunity in online gambling. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-10-2002, 10:18 AM	#9
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	hey sexyclicks hit me up on icq one of these days.... Mutt, I always go for commission!! Its and australian goverment regulated casino but its offlimits for australians to play in it I think... ohh and they do biz in american dollars Last edited by vegasdude; 11-10-2002 at 10:19 AM..

11-10-2002, 10:35 AM	#11
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	yup it says it's licensed by the Aussie government. what is the average commission you've been getting from a signup? in US dollars. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-10-2002, 09:56 AM	#2
LUCL0NELY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: AZN KLAN'S MAIN LAND Posts: 1,527	they shave. please give me a ref link to a gambling site. I want to promote them now.

11-10-2002, 09:58 AM	#3
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	cum on luc i hear the shave theory all the time - but I trust the sponsors i use. and most of the AP sites look really good. learn the gambling biz first my friend and then maybe a few ref links

11-10-2002, 10:04 AM	#4
Jizar II Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: LLL© Posts: 1,425	here are the answers buddy sex vs gambling and free sex vs free gambling Btw, please turn on your phone

11-10-2002, 10:11 AM	#6
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	okay my own ebook sells 1-30 from banners. www.roulettebucks.com I have a casino sponsor www.lasseters.com.au/ today I have had 274 clicks and 27 signups.... its a big difference from my 0-600 today on the adultsponsor

11-10-2002, 10:15 AM	#7
sexyclicks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: c9media.com Posts: 3,240	my opinion: women make a big difference A woman will take out the CC in 2sec if she finds something that looks interesting. Also gambling converts much better. Someone that clicks on the link saying "casino" most of the time is looking for a casino to play and not to jurk off and go. There is no such thing as free gambling(that's an oxymoron) - either you play or you don't, no other option there. That's why you see in some PPC search engines bids up to 30$ for casinos and 30c for sex

11-10-2002, 10:44 AM	#12
sexyclicks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: c9media.com Posts: 3,240	It is much harder to get traffic to a gambling site (sorry no tgp here...). Also expensive if you need to buy some. On the other hand you don't need to update, no huge hosting bills, no cheaters giving pswds to your members area and stealing your content etc. so you can focus 100% on promoting. I've been doing porn and gambling for almost 3 years now. I love both industries. There are bad people everywhere and for sure you will need to be carefull. Find a solid casino sponsor and build some traffic. Trust me all you need is 3-4 good players that will spend 10K each, every week in your casino. Then you can do more and more stuff.

11-10-2002, 10:49 AM	#14
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	but the question is are you guys getting checks regularly from these casinos? you said you have signups who go on to spend 10,000 at the casino. How much of that goes to you? Let's say the lady signs up and she gambles 10,000 bucks, loses half of it. The commission is 40% of 5,000 net profit to the casion. That's 2 grand. Are you getting those kind of checks? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-10-2002, 10:52 AM	#15
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	hey sexyclicks my ebook is for the average gambler.. I talk about strategies and show them some... my strategy is most for offline play... but I wanted to talk to you for some time about doing some "testing" hit me up tomorrow and you can read it yourself Email: [email protected] ICQ : 128575758 Vegas

11-10-2002, 10:54 AM	#16
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	Mutt lassester pays and yes a few good players WILL give you checks like that!

11-10-2002, 11:08 AM	#18
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	Vegas, say I wanna start a new site about online gambling, could I resell your eBook to start of the gambling site? I'm going to promote some gambling sites I signed up with last year, but as most of my traffic comes from sites where people are looking for 'free' things, I doubt I will find $2k players there. The basic rule is you must have at least some traffic of people interested in gambling or other things that COST money. Not free stuff.

11-10-2002, 11:22 AM	#19
vegasdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Royal Family Crew Posts: 3,649	naughty hit me up tomorrow when im at the office (like all day long) time to eat here!