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vegasdude 11-10-2002 09:54 AM

my rant on the adult numbers game
 
well im feeling sick...

nothin in the bio 2day - can't eat cuz of my swallowed throat (no dirty ideas now!)

and I was thinking...

as most webmasters im a statswhore who check stats both website and sponsor stats.

unique visitors, where the traffic is from... how many sales I will make if I double the traffic etc.

I can use an hour easily daily on that.

So I descieded to compare my gambling site with my adult sponsors.

and it amazes me. My gambling site still converts at 1-30 on banner clicks.

now I take a look at my adult banner stats today and 600 clicks to sponor and zero sales...

This just blows my mind cuz the gambling site I have promoted heavily since 1999 but no slowing downŽin sales...

Now the adultsite in question is fairly new and looks good.

Well im still to come to a conclusion cuz its bannerclicks - quality traffic then why the hell such a big difference on adult/gambling.

Done same comparison on several adultsponsors and the pattern is always the same.....

LUCL0NELY 11-10-2002 09:56 AM

they shave.

please give me a ref link to a gambling site. I want to promote them now.

vegasdude 11-10-2002 09:58 AM

cum on luc i hear the shave theory all the time - but I trust the sponsors i use. and most of the AP sites look really good.

learn the gambling biz first my friend and then maybe a few ref links:glugglug

Jizar II 11-10-2002 10:04 AM

here are the answers buddy :winkwink:

sex vs gambling

and

free sex vs free gambling

Btw, please turn on your phone :)

Mutt 11-10-2002 10:06 AM

why won't you post the gambling site you promote?
what's the big secret?


anybody who gambles online should be put in a fucking mental hospital.

most adult sites don't even promote casinos anymore because the experience has always been so bad.

Are there good casino sponsors now? i have a sports site that will be up soon, well when the Indian i hired gets finished programming it, i'd love for their to be a good casion/sportsbook sponsor.

vegasdude 11-10-2002 10:11 AM

okay my own ebook sells 1-30 from banners.

www.roulettebucks.com

I have a casino sponsor www.lasseters.com.au/

today I have had 274 clicks and 27 signups....

its a big difference from my 0-600 today on the adultsponsor :(

sexyclicks 11-10-2002 10:15 AM

my opinion: women make a big difference
A woman will take out the CC in 2sec if she finds something that looks interesting.
Also gambling converts much better. Someone that clicks on the link saying "casino" most of the time is looking for a casino to play and not to jurk off and go. There is no such thing as free gambling(that's an oxymoron) - either you play or you don't, no other option there.
That's why you see in some PPC search engines bids up to 30$ for casinos and 30c for sex

Mutt 11-10-2002 10:16 AM

cool. thanks for posting.

ok you have had a bunch of signups at the casino. what is the payout? is it a flat rate per signup or is it a commission calculated on the net profit the casino makes on the surfer who signed up from your link?

it's an AU casino? i didnt even know they were legal in Australia.
I would have thought ScottPB and Dean from SexHit would be all over an opportunity in online gambling.

vegasdude 11-10-2002 10:18 AM

hey sexyclicks hit me up on icq one of these days....

Mutt,

I always go for commission!! Its and australian goverment regulated casino but its offlimits for australians to play in it I think... ohh and they do biz in american dollars :glugglug

Naughty 11-10-2002 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizar II
www.googlefight.com
Hey, that site is pretty helpfull!!
Thanks for the link, never heard of it before, it is awesome.

Mutt 11-10-2002 10:35 AM

yup it says it's licensed by the Aussie government.

what is the average commission you've been getting from a signup? in US dollars.

sexyclicks 11-10-2002 10:44 AM

It is much harder to get traffic to a gambling site (sorry no tgp here...). Also expensive if you need to buy some.
On the other hand you don't need to update, no huge hosting bills, no cheaters giving pswds to your members area and stealing your content etc. so you can focus 100% on promoting.

I've been doing porn and gambling for almost 3 years now. I love both industries. There are bad people everywhere and for sure you will need to be carefull. Find a solid casino sponsor and build some traffic. Trust me all you need is 3-4 good players that will spend 10K each, every week in your casino. Then you can do more and more stuff.

sexyclicks 11-10-2002 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vegasdude
hey sexyclicks hit me up on icq one of these days....
I will...np - maybe tomorrow from the office where I have access to more gambling stuff

I always wanted to ask you if your Roulette strategy works...I mean I don't want my players to win!!! I have many many portals and for sure I can promote your program in the new ones I'm making these days

Mutt 11-10-2002 10:49 AM

but the question is are you guys getting checks regularly from these casinos?

you said you have signups who go on to spend 10,000 at the casino. How much of that goes to you? Let's say the lady signs up and she gambles 10,000 bucks, loses half of it. The commission is 40% of 5,000 net profit to the casion. That's 2 grand. Are you getting those kind of checks?

vegasdude 11-10-2002 10:52 AM

hey sexyclicks my ebook is for the average gambler.. I talk about strategies and show them some... my strategy is most for offline play... but I wanted to talk to you for some time about doing some "testing"

hit me up tomorrow and you can read it yourself :glugglug

Email: [email protected]
ICQ : 128575758

Vegas

vegasdude 11-10-2002 10:54 AM

Mutt lassester pays:thumbsup

and yes a few good players WILL give you checks like that!

sexyclicks 11-10-2002 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
but the question is are you guys getting checks regularly from these casinos?

you said you have signups who go on to spend 10,000 at the casino. How much of that goes to you? Let's say the lady signs up and she gambles 10,000 bucks, loses half of it. The commission is 40% of 5,000 net profit to the casion. That's 2 grand. Are you getting those kind of checks?

Yes you will get these checks. I said before: there are bad companies in every industry. Carefully select your sponsors and you will get paid on time-every time. Exactly like porn

Naughty 11-10-2002 11:08 AM

Vegas, say I wanna start a new site about online gambling, could I resell your eBook to start of the gambling site?

I'm going to promote some gambling sites I signed up with last year, but as most of my traffic comes from sites where people are looking for 'free' things, I doubt I will find $2k players there. The basic rule is you must have at least some traffic of people interested in gambling or other things that COST money. Not free stuff.

vegasdude 11-10-2002 11:22 AM

naughty hit me up tomorrow when im at the office (like all day long)

time to eat here!


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