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Fletch XXX · 11-08-2002, 12:19 AM

Is the Hun infringing Yellow Pages?

http://www.nameprotect.com/cgi-bin/F...s=yellow+pages

Chris R · 11-08-2002, 04:44 AM

I've gotten a few letters Pollet & Co. I assume that is who yours was from too.

Here is a decision where wipo took back domains named "ceasarspalace", but left "teaserspalace" intact.

http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/deci...2002-0066.html

Personally though - I think you would lose, but I can't point to a single decision that would lead me to believe that. I think Mark makes some good points.

I have read a bunch of these cases and due to the niche and market invloved - you might have problems, but then again - you aren't using the whole trademark.

I don't know, but I really doubt they will sue you for it. Their law firm is sending out hundreds of these letters. I know several people that have gotten them.

They can't go around suing everyone - and my guess is they have bigger fish to fry.

They can (apparently) file a UDRP complaint against multiple people at one time. They very well may do this - as it would only cost them $1500 to go after hundreds of people.

However, you can't lose money in UDRP arbitration - only the domain.

My .02

HQ · 11-08-2002, 08:33 AM

They have a lot of domains to go after then:

http://www.domainsurfer.com/ssearch.cgi?dom=gonewild

m0rph3us · 11-08-2002, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Is the Hun infringing Yellow Pages?

http://www.nameprotect.com/cgi-bin/F...s=yellow+pages

only if someone registered the trademark in regards with 'adult'. Also it's not in his domain, it's only typed on his page.

Fletch XXX · 11-08-2002, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us

only if someone registered the trademark in regards with 'adult'. Also it's not in his domain, it's only typed on his page.

Agreed, but his trademark is for "The Huns Yellow Pages"

Did he not have the 'Yellow Pages' in his mind when he registered that name?

Clearly he did.

ColKurtz · 11-08-2002, 12:22 PM

"only if someone registered the trademark in regards with 'adult'. Also it's not in his domain, it's only typed on his page."

Well thats how girls gone wild went after me. I had a search engine page which had a phrase something like "watch hot girls gone wild with nice asses". Something like that, where the term girls gone wild was just connecting some keywords. I wasnt trying to target that term.

But they sent a c&d. Ass fuckers.

WhoreHEY · 11-08-2002, 12:46 PM

Needless to say we had a domain with girls gone wild in it and we got a cease and decist as well. It sucks because we got great SE rankings for the site but not under those keywords!!

TheFLY · 11-08-2002, 12:58 PM

Maybe transfer them to some friend in some far off land where they can't do shit... :p

Or make up a fake account in like China -- then when the lawyers contact your "new" owner, just reply to them w/ all kinds of freaky ASCII characters hehe...

Gator · 11-08-2002, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
There was another big scene a few years back with a lot of webmasters being threatened by the scammy guy who had usurped sex.com from Gary for several years until Gary won it back in court. This guy after thieving Sex.com through fraud, then went about threatening the webmasters that had the word sex in their domains. So if you had a domain like HotSex.com, this guy wanted you to turn it over to him saying you were infringing on his thieved Sex.com. Man were there some webmaster board battle posts back then. It was a total trip to watch.

Luckily Gary won his domain back and a nice size judgment against that guy that was doing that to all the webmasters.

Last I heard he still hasn't gotten his money because that fucker who stole his name is hiding out in Mexico.

pornJester · 11-08-2002, 05:32 PM

GIRLS GONE WILD
IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: prerecorded videotapes featuring adult entertainment. FIRST USE: 19981201. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19990101

Ok, so the 'Goods & Services' section of the GGW trademark filing states the above. If I am not promoting videotapes, then am i in violation of their trademark?

Also this was not an attempt to cybersquat them. I never had any intentions of trying to sell these domains to girlsgonewild, rather the intention was to be a play off a portion of a catchy phrase. If every time someone tried to parody something it turned into a lawsuit this would be a pretty shitty country to live in.

If the term 'gone wild' used in conjunction with drunk chicks getting naked in public is now owned by some corporation then i'm going to trademark the words 'fuck off' in conjunction with displaying my middle finger.

UncleJimmy · 11-08-2002, 10:35 PM

Sell them to some russians and or ukranian's for a few bucks, then tell the lawyers to GFY, & try to seek restitution from them

BWAAAAHAHAHAAHA

UncleJimmy · 11-08-2002, 10:37 PM

yeh pornjester, I agree with you in concept but I'm not a lawyer

it seems as if '....gone wild' is a bit of a stretch on their part

sounds like some bored greedy lawyers is all...

if you're making money off those bad boys then call one up and get their jist on it....if it's worth it

if not, sell them to the ruskies ;)

UnseenWorld · 11-08-2002, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
Those sites look like you are trying to cash in on the Girls Go Wild brand name to me. That's illegal. I'd back down.

Not very original, either. Kind of like setting up a Boff Bus site. Trying to pick up the scraps under someone else's table.

UnseenWorld · 11-08-2002, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Is the Hun infringing Yellow Pages?

http://www.nameprotect.com/cgi-bin/F...s=yellow+pages

I'm not a trademark attorney, but I know that some companies lose their trademarks as the use of the terminology gets overused, which is why companies defend their trademark properties.

SpaceAce · 11-08-2002, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

He said he was surprised it was available, why again?

So what? You would be surprised if "cash.com" or "television.com" was available. Just because you're surprised no one beat you to it doesn't mean someone else has a better claim than you do.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 11-08-2002, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Burtman
This guy hasn't lost his case yet and he's battling a heartless multinational corporation.
nissan.com

Quite the story, he used to have a link up on his site about Nissan's lawyers strong arming him. His last name is Nissan and he registered the domain when they were still Dauston.

Burtman

I've been following that case for a couple of years now. He has like 500 pages of comments from people supporting him and one or two morons saying "Nissan is a bigger company, they deserve the name."

SpaceAce

Ian · 11-10-2002, 09:46 PM

Dear Pornjester:

This business was pioneered by people who were much smarter and more ruthless than these latecomers.

Talk about being a day late and a dollar short, these guys are years late and very short.

The new Visa regs are here because of the internet "pioneers" and these "gone with the wind" guys are about to reap what others have sown.

Pity these people grovelling over four word domains and laugh at them at the same time. :-)

Ian

PS: Hi Mark :-)

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pornJester Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 6,138	GIRLS GONE WILD IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: prerecorded videotapes featuring adult entertainment. FIRST USE: 19981201. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19990101 Ok, so the 'Goods & Services' section of the GGW trademark filing states the above. If I am not promoting videotapes, then am i in violation of their trademark? Also this was not an attempt to cybersquat them. I never had any intentions of trying to sell these domains to girlsgonewild, rather the intention was to be a play off a portion of a catchy phrase. If every time someone tried to parody something it turned into a lawsuit this would be a pretty shitty country to live in. If the term 'gone wild' used in conjunction with drunk chicks getting naked in public is now owned by some corporation then i'm going to trademark the words 'fuck off' in conjunction with displaying my middle finger. __________________ FreshBucks \| Webmaster Vault \| GayAW Trusted Names in Adult. ICQ 9157.3698 Last edited by pornJester; 11-08-2002 at 05:33 PM..

11-08-2002, 10:35 PM	#61
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11-08-2002, 10:37 PM	#62
UncleJimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ariZONA Posts: 855	yeh pornjester, I agree with you in concept but I'm not a lawyer it seems as if '....gone wild' is a bit of a stretch on their part sounds like some bored greedy lawyers is all... if you're making money off those bad boys then call one up and get their jist on it....if it's worth it if not, sell them to the ruskies ;) __________________ <a href="http://www.redpartners.com/?r=100278"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="http://britney-spears.blewme.com/wm.gif" width="120" height="60" border="0"></font></a><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Promote the web's hottest adult personals website, <a href="http://www.redpartners.com/?r=100278" target="_blank">Red Personals</a>.</font>

11-08-2002, 04:44 AM	#52
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	I've gotten a few letters Pollet & Co. I assume that is who yours was from too. Here is a decision where wipo took back domains named "ceasarspalace", but left "teaserspalace" intact. http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/deci...2002-0066.html Personally though - I think you would lose, but I can't point to a single decision that would lead me to believe that. I think Mark makes some good points. I have read a bunch of these cases and due to the niche and market invloved - you might have problems, but then again - you aren't using the whole trademark. I don't know, but I really doubt they will sue you for it. Their law firm is sending out hundreds of these letters. I know several people that have gotten them. They can't go around suing everyone - and my guess is they have bigger fish to fry. They can (apparently) file a UDRP complaint against multiple people at one time. They very well may do this - as it would only cost them $1500 to go after hundreds of people. However, you can't lose money in UDRP arbitration - only the domain. My .02

11-08-2002, 08:33 AM	#53
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	They have a lot of domains to go after then: http://www.domainsurfer.com/ssearch.cgi?dom=gonewild

11-08-2002, 12:22 PM	#56
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	"only if someone registered the trademark in regards with 'adult'. Also it's not in his domain, it's only typed on his page." Well thats how girls gone wild went after me. I had a search engine page which had a phrase something like "watch hot girls gone wild with nice asses". Something like that, where the term girls gone wild was just connecting some keywords. I wasnt trying to target that term. But they sent a c&d. Ass fuckers.

11-08-2002, 12:58 PM	#58
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Maybe transfer them to some friend in some far off land where they can't do shit... :p Or make up a fake account in like China -- then when the lawyers contact your "new" owner, just reply to them w/ all kinds of freaky ASCII characters hehe...

11-10-2002, 09:46 PM	#67
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Dear Pornjester: This business was pioneered by people who were much smarter and more ruthless than these latecomers. Talk about being a day late and a dollar short, these guys are years late and very short. The new Visa regs are here because of the internet "pioneers" and these "gone with the wind" guys are about to reap what others have sown. Pity these people grovelling over four word domains and laugh at them at the same time. :-) Ian PS: Hi Mark :-)