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CyberHustler 11-13-2008 04:50 PM

Pay up... It's part of the game.

HorseShit 11-13-2008 05:37 PM

so what are we up to in this thread? seems like over 70K$ is owed

Quagmire 11-13-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15050586)
so what are we up to in this thread? seems like over 70K$ is owed

Man.. I hope you pay an accountant to handle your finances...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2008 06:16 PM

Still no response on the matter cept Gunner thus far?

Holy crap...

Bye ATK.
I hate when companies go out like this. I thought 14K was a piss in the bucket to ATK. Guess not.

My prediction is like this...
Gunner loses his job in a week or two ( Of course amicable no drama and low profile resignation wishing well to everyone ) then a couple months down the road ATK closes shop with webmasters freaking out and furious about not recieving money or late payments that never come...

ladida 11-13-2008 06:33 PM

Lol, you're going a bit too far there Alien. Anything can happen, but ATK shutting down. There's so much content in there to fuel 10 other sites :)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 15050862)
Lol, you're going a bit too far there Alien. Anything can happen, but ATK shutting down. There's so much content in there to fuel 10 other sites :)

Yer right... He will skate for a while but once content producers black list em its over about 6-10 months later for new content.

Then another year just running with what he got and a number years after that possibly on rebills.

Either way ATK will be fine for a while but certainly not an emerging star anylonger.

HorseShit 11-13-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 15050679)
Man.. I hope you pay an accountant to handle your finances...

it was an estimation, not too far off :1orglaugh

BVF 11-13-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 15050120)
blacky, i don't shoot content.. neither do you for that matter so why are you up in arms about another shooter? you take Polaroids of 2$ crackwhores so ugly that you're embarrassed to have your face associated with it.. lol did you know KFC has delivery out here? you'd shit yourself!

I only care about someone not getting paid......And no...I'm not like you where I can show my face with a ladyboy's cock about to be shoved into my mouth and fondling a little asian boy's balls that have been shrunk from the hormones.

Paul Markham 11-14-2008 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 15050737)
Still no response on the matter cept Gunner thus far?

Holy crap...

Bye ATK.
I hate when companies go out like this. I thought 14K was a piss in the bucket to ATK. Guess not.

My prediction is like this...
Gunner loses his job in a week or two ( Of course amicable no drama and low profile resignation wishing well to everyone ) then a couple months down the road ATK closes shop with webmasters freaking out and furious about not recieving money or late payments that never come...

Sadly I think you're right.

This business is built a lot on confidence. Webmasters confident that the work they put in today will be paid for 3 or more months down the line. We have not heard from ATK that they have paid these photographers, we have not heard from the photographers they have been paid and this thread is going on and on.

What does that tell people?

Paul Markham 11-14-2008 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 15050862)
Lol, you're going a bit too far there Alien. Anything can happen, but ATK shutting down. There's so much content in there to fuel 10 other sites :)

So content is King. LOL

bloggingseo 11-14-2008 12:56 AM

A well known company like this not paying ? Wow...not cool at all. Maybe it's a temp problem and gets resolved fast.

lens looker 11-14-2008 03:11 AM

Resolution has tentatively been reached.

I've been speaking with Kim and we have agreed on a payment plan - based on his word, which I'm sure he will keep after having dealt with this public posting, board situation.

I will not get into the details of the agreement as it is a private matter between the two of us. However, I sincerely hope that something can be worked out with all other photographers who have yet to be paid.

As I said to Kim, as well as to some others along the way, this was not a personal attack on him as an individual, by me, but simply a matter of BUSINESS.

I appreciate all the suport I received from GFY members throughout this thread and truly hope that the original posting helps to resolve the situation with the others affected, now that it has been brought to light.

All the best,
Russ T.

Jens Van Assterdam 11-14-2008 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15051409)
I only care about someone not getting paid......And no...I'm not like you where I can show my face with a ladyboy's cock about to be shoved into my mouth and fondling a little asian boy's balls that have been shrunk from the hormones.

The good old days :1orglaugh

Peace 11-14-2008 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lens looker (Post 15052282)
Resolution has tentatively been reached.

I've been speaking with Kim and we have agreed on a payment plan - based on his word, which I'm sure he will keep after having dealt with this public posting, board situation.

I will not get into the details of the agreement as it is a private matter between the two of us. However, I sincerely hope that something can be worked out with all other photographers who have yet to be paid.

As I said to Kim, as well as to some others along the way, this was not a personal attack on him as an individual, by me, but simply a matter of BUSINESS.

I appreciate all the suport I received from GFY members throughout this thread and truly hope that the original posting helps to resolve the situation with the others affected, now that it has been brought to light.

All the best,
Russ T.

Great I am happy for you. I also spoke to GUNNER and GUNNER offers me to return my content. this content was shot to ATK specs so it will be hard to sell to other companies. They had 10 days after reception to check it and return but not 5 months to check content and then return to me. I have paid models, my staff of photographer, location fees, etc.

I said WELL as a GOOD WILL i will accept content you want to return for EXCHANGE not against the credit. So finally we decided to that i will speak to Kim directly and i am going to call him today and see how it goes. I hope we will settle everything as well.

I still like Kim and respect him and believe that it is misscomunication problem not act of cheating or scam. But i will know reality after speaking to KIM tonight.

Thanks everyone for support...

Nikki_Licks 11-14-2008 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lens looker (Post 15052282)
Resolution has tentatively been reached.

tentatively is the key word in this resolution, so nothing has really been solved. I wish you luck :thumbsup

Nikki_Licks 11-14-2008 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15052306)
Great I am happy for you. I also spoke to GUNNER and GUNNER offers me to return my content. this content was shot to ATK specs so it will be hard to sell to other companies. They had 10 days after reception to check it and return but not 5 months to check content and then return to me. I have paid models, my staff of photographer, location fees, etc.

I said WELL as a GOOD WILL i will accept content you want to return for EXCHANGE not against the credit. So finally we decided to that i will speak to Kim directly and i am going to call him today and see how it goes. I hope we will settle everything as well.

I still like Kim and respect him and believe that it is misscomunication problem not act of cheating or scam. But i will know reality after speaking to KIM tonight.

Thanks everyone for support...

This is really sad :disgust
Return the content that was shot to their specifications..... Exclusively....Total BS! They ordered the content, you produced it, and they should pay, no excuses!

Well, I hope you work it out, good luck :thumbsup

Paul Markham 11-14-2008 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 15052499)
This is really sad :disgust
Return the content that was shot to their specifications..... Exclusively....Total BS! They ordered the content, you produced it, and they should pay, no excuses!

Well, I hope you work it out, good luck :thumbsup

Anyone else getting the impression they can't afford to pay?

$14,000 is coming in a payment plan and Peace is getting his sent back. :upsidedow

Nikki_Licks 11-14-2008 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15052506)
Anyone else getting the impression they can't afford to pay?

$14,000 is coming in a payment plan and Peace is getting it sent back. :upsidedow

Those were my thoughts. Payment plan does not pay this mans bills nor does it put food on his table.

rowan 11-14-2008 06:12 AM

I hope part of this payment plan includes payment on time NO EXCEPTIONS for any future work you choose to do for the company... if you choose to work for them again...

HorseShit 11-14-2008 06:36 AM

even ballers lose money

BVF 11-14-2008 06:43 AM

14k is a lot to spend on content....especially on just one shooter....Plus they gotta pay folks like Gunner and StuartD...And all of this comes out of member subscriptions...

Their overhead has gotta be insane and the profit margins over at ATK must be razor thin....I've been doing what I do since 2000 and I might be up to that much on content and that includes paying them PLUS food, alcohol, weed, burnt fuel, etc....

Back when I lived in and was shooting girls from the neighborhood, If I tallied up my TOTAL overhead costs, then it would probably be very high....However, I chalked it up as fun and not as an expense.

AaronM came in here and said that he delivered a $5,100 package to them...What in the FUCK could possibly cost $5,100?....Seriously....They payin too much for shit over there....

HorseShit 11-14-2008 07:59 AM

wtf, i just went to atkingdom.com you pretty much have to sign your life away to get into their site

DAMNMAN 11-14-2008 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15052506)
Anyone else getting the impression they can't afford to pay?

$14,000 is coming in a payment plan and Peace is getting his sent back. :upsidedow

This is exactly what I was thinking, $14,000.00 on an installment plan are you shitting me?
Damn I just put up a shitload of ATK Hairy sponsor links across 20 or 30 sites, too.

Peace 11-14-2008 08:34 AM

Guys! I just spoke with Kim and he was very helpful. We just solved the issue by paying half and will pay the balance soon. So all good. The problems was part of my delivery where content was misplaced becuase i labled tapes in only numbers without model names . But now all have been found approved and meter solved. we both realized our errors in communication and will improve our customer service to our customers Kim and ATK his way me and ClassyContent our way. Thanks everyone for the support and help. Attention were needed to the meter and that board helped FOR REAL. So happy end. Hur ra!! Learning each ones lessons and life goes on. GUNNER was good and professional and cool. We spent on ICQ like 2 hours.. Was fun. Back to business. Peace to all GFY and FGY menagment for great FORUM...

DAMNMAN 11-14-2008 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15052638)
14k is a lot to spend on content....especially on just one shooter....Plus they gotta pay folks like Gunner and StuartD...And all of this comes out of member subscriptions...

Their overhead has gotta be insane and the profit margins over at ATK must be razor thin....I've been doing what I do since 2000 and I might be up to that much on content and that includes paying them PLUS food, alcohol, weed, burnt fuel, etc....

Back when I lived in and was shooting girls from the neighborhood, If I tallied up my TOTAL overhead costs, then it would probably be very high....However, I chalked it up as fun and not as an expense.

AaronM came in here and said that he delivered a $5,100 package to them...What in the FUCK could possibly cost $5,100?....Seriously....They payin too much for shit over there....

$14,000.00 is not that great of a number for a top sponsor's content needs, I've run tabs (that were paid thankfully) way higher than this. It's most likely a lot of work put in by this shooter and he needs his cash ASAP I'm sure.

SoloGirlsContent 11-14-2008 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15052622)
even ballers lose money

TRUTH
everyone think these BIG BOY companies just have all this cash flowing out of their asses.. let me remind everyone and make it simple..THESE ARE BALLERS
AIG, GM, FORD,LEHMAN BROTHERS,CITIBANK, WACHOVIA...blah blah

These are BIG boys..they are BROKE..yes it can happen in PORN..wake the fuck up and let the the "bait and Switch ' begin..

here's another head's up.. DIVERSIFY ASAP
have money coming from as many different places ASAP

Porn boys have a habit of BAD cash flow and if they've been doing business the same way for the past 5-8 years and paying the same prices..they are dead and just don't know it.

Grapesoda 11-14-2008 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15053007)
Guys! I just spoke with Kim and he was very helpful. We just solved the issue by paying half and will pay the balance soon. So all good. The problems was part of my delivery where content was misplaced becuase i labled tapes in only numbers without model names . But now all have been found approved and meter solved. we both realized our errors in communication and will improve our customer service to our customers Kim and ATK his way me and ClassyContent our way. Thanks everyone for the support and help. Attention were needed to the meter and that board helped FOR REAL. So happy end. Hur ra!! Learning each ones lessons and life goes on. GUNNER was good and professional and cool. We spent on ICQ like 2 hours.. Was fun. Back to business. Peace to all GFY and FGY menagment for great FORUM...

what's the photo credit at atk for your stuff?

Quagmire 11-14-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15053007)
Guys! I just spoke with Kim and he was very helpful. We just solved the issue by paying half and will pay the balance soon. So all good. The problems was part of my delivery where content was misplaced becuase i labled tapes in only numbers without model names . But now all have been found approved and meter solved. we both realized our errors in communication and will improve our customer service to our customers Kim and ATK his way me and ClassyContent our way. Thanks everyone for the support and help. Attention were needed to the meter and that board helped FOR REAL. So happy end. Hur ra!! Learning each ones lessons and life goes on. GUNNER was good and professional and cool. We spent on ICQ like 2 hours.. Was fun. Back to business. Peace to all GFY and FGY menagment for great FORUM...

Quoting this just in case the usual trolls missed it. :thumbsup

HorseShit 11-14-2008 09:37 AM

"paying half now, the rest later" greattttt

Nikki_Licks 11-14-2008 10:05 AM

Well, at least it was dealt with, everyone has come to an agreement so this is a good thing. Some money now and some later is better than none at all........

JFK 11-14-2008 10:29 AM

1 Fitty Solutions ?

CyberHustler 11-14-2008 12:23 PM

ATK got served yo!

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/i...__ygsbor_l.jpg

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-14-2008 12:48 PM

Wow an eye openner for alot of folks I am sure.

Peace 11-14-2008 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15053167)
what's the photo credit at atk for your stuff?

Roman K it is

MoreMagic 11-14-2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 15053007)
We just solved the issue by paying half and will pay the balance soon.

Someone agreeing that this is a very bad sign?

moeloubani 11-14-2008 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 15054513)
Someone agreeing that this is a very bad sign?

cash flow problems happen to everyone, a good business is able to work around it and sometimes that means delaying a few payments so that they can make it out of the rough times

it even happened on entourage where that dude came and asked ari to borrow $500k, and after lloyd looked it up he saw that it was indeed just a cash flow problem - happens to everyone! like someone else said, even the biggest of the big run into problems

JP-pornshooter 11-14-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 15052499)
This is really sad :disgust
Return the content that was shot to their specifications..... Exclusively....Total BS! They ordered the content, you produced it, and they should pay, no excuses!

Well, I hope you work it out, good luck :thumbsup

I know they have meantime worked it out, but I still want to comment what you say.
The fact is that content shooters are not all good at managing their business and often spend more money than they earn. In order to make more money, they sometimes shoot additional content with the thought that they are shooting exclusive/pre-approved for xyz program.
So the content is not "ordered" nor pre-approved by the site owner.
I am not saying it is the situation in this case, but it certainly could be.
If that is the case I doubt ATK will take any future shoots from these guys after having been forced to take content they never really ordered... :2 cents:

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-14-2008 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 15054597)
I know they have meantime worked it out, but I still want to comment what you say.
The fact is that content shooters are not all good at managing their business and often spend more money than they earn. In order to make more money, they sometimes shoot additional content with the thought that they are shooting exclusive/pre-approved for xyz program.
So the content is not "ordered" nor pre-approved by the site owner.
I am not saying it is the situation in this case, but it certainly could be.
If that is the case I doubt ATK will take any future shoots from these guys after having been forced to take content they never really ordered... :2 cents:

SO now you are trying to inject the suggestion that these content shooters did not deliver content or shot content anyways for ATK and expect to get paid for stuff ATK did not order?

I hardly think that is the case but I do not know the facts exactly.
But I seriously doubt that is what happened here with the thread starters issue.

THe other guys making claims to money owed I have no idea.

Snake Doctor 11-14-2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15052638)
AaronM came in here and said that he delivered a $5,100 package to them...What in the FUCK could possibly cost $5,100?....Seriously....They payin too much for shit over there....

They have to pay their models with money, not crack. :2 cents:

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-14-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 15054597)
I know they have meantime worked it out, but I still want to comment what you say.
The fact is that content shooters are not all good at managing their business and often spend more money than they earn. In order to make more money, they sometimes shoot additional content with the thought that they are shooting exclusive/pre-approved for xyz program.
So the content is not "ordered" nor pre-approved by the site owner.
I am not saying it is the situation in this case, but it certainly could be.
If that is the case I doubt ATK will take any future shoots from these guys after having been forced to take content they never really ordered... :2 cents:

Are you serious?...


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