Good luck man...Please hit me up. I would like to speak to you privitly
via skype or ICQ

I want to be fast with you as well. :)


Should might have tried to find out some other shooters contact first, and then after talking with them gone to the board.

shit gets done quicker here and provides entertainment value while I eat my chinese food

good luck to all involved in settling this

another anon poster causing shit by being a total fucking idiot

Calling him annon is stupid because he obviously isn't, as noone denied the fact he's owed the money yet.

The situation is surprising since ATK always was very clean. It'll be interesting to see does anyone else pop in since he says he knows other people owed aswell.

They do, it seems that you're just part of the "few" cool kids. :winkwink:

Because some photographers shoot for several clients and they let the shoots build up before sending them in. When I am shooting a lot for ATK, I do this as well. Other times I ship single orders when I know I won't be shooting more in the next few weeks.

ATK owes me $5,100.00 for a package they received this morning....And there is no doubt in my mind that I will get every cent in the very near future.

i think cash is tight for everyone these days, but i am not worried about getting paid by ATK..

I can verify everything Aaron posted. I've been shooting for ATK for over eight years, and Kim, ATK's owner, is definitely a class act.

grrr i knew this thread would blow up. ATK pays all of its photographers :thumbsup

Yeah, me too! I can ... oh, who am I kiddin.. I have become a sig/postcount whore.... Shoot me!

well may other small guys afraid to stand up becuase HE WAS good in paying and they hope still to kepp Him as a customer. so many would not say anything.

thatd surprise me

I will ICQ the other shooters who are telling me they have not been paid. I know of three so far. Peace was not one of them.

Gunner we have always dealt with Kim when we shot custom for ATK. I don't know who you are. We have not shot for ATK for years. And yes we were paid.

I am sure this has been brought to Kim's attention many times and this is a last resort to try and get the money owed. You should be explaining why he needs to bring it here.

I have heard from 2 shooters who both said the same. ATK is not paying them and they will pay soon. The third was from another sponsor who has custom shooters and one of them is moaning about not being paid. Good to see others are being paid though.

To the rest. Let's assume this was an affiliate owed money for no reason, would everyone be so fast to flame the person who is not being paid?

Paul I understand what you are saying but you also have to weigh Kim and ATK's reputation. There are few adult companies out there that have the same reputation ATK has. Kim N. is a total straight shooter and has always chosen to sacrifice short term profitability to get long term stability. His ethics in this business are also very well known, whereas people here do not know the original poster from some Joe on the street.

ATK is not running away from a 14k bill, you can bet the house on that.

How lame of you!

not directed at ATK personally, but i wouldn't bet my house on ANYONE in this business. I could tell you stories about well known, top notch, stand up, honest people in this business who didn't care about words and promises they gave. who bargain about $50 shooting fee and then the next day send you pics of their new car that cost $100K

money in the account is all that counts in this biz, especially for us shooters when we have to pay the models and all other expenses upfront from our pockets. you know perfectly well that those 14K are not just profit but at least 50% have been expenses that were paid already by the shooter. :2 cents:

This man speaks the truth :thumbsup

Oh dude beware!!!.... if you dont post 200 times a day here you are a fucking nobody.
Sux ass to think that some retards on this board always bring up the post count when someone complains about getting ripped off.
2 pages and still this dude didnt get paid, so your a fucking criminal!

That is the best quote on this thread, pay the dude and stfu asswhipes!

It shouldn't matter if you don't know me from Joe on the street. It is a matter of principle. But just to let you know, I am Russ T. and I've been a shooter for more than five years - for ATK and have also shot for nubiles, teendreams, twistys, karups, etc.

However, as a courtesy to Kim (as we are currently in discussions) I will not post anything further until the situation is resolved - or not. I just wanted to tell you who I am seeing as you all seem to think I'm some wacko who has just come on to the boards to poke a stick into a hornets' nest.

btw - just for the records - there are also great clients that pay faster than lightning and are a HUGE pleasure to work with. and if they buy a new car i am more than happy that they are doing well. because we also profit from their wellbeing. :)

yer killin me with that one :1orglaugh

ATK runs a solid business.

More effort towards communication and less whining is what will solve this.

Gunner is offering to help, it would be wise to talk with him.

Maybe you missed the part where he says he couldn't get his phone calls answered and couldn't get issues resolved via email either. What other types of communication would you suggest?

maybe the lesson learned here for everyone is have an operations contract that states payment due 30 days after invoice in submitted or there is a late fee.

pretty crazy thread

Yeah all these people are attacking the poor guy and he said this was his last resort he tried writing and calling. Now they are talking so it seems the magic of gfy works again.

just pay the guy sheesh.

No fucking doubt, the bro club at work right there. :disgust

Btw I know Russ (Lens Looker). He's a good guy.
I also know Kim he's a great guy.

Hopefully this gets resolved and everyone walks away happy ;)

If anyone thinks it will help the situation I volunteer to beat StuartD up. Just let me know.

Sorry Stuart - I lol'd

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is the biggest bro fucking reply in a long time.

What do you suggest he does? He tried the owner number of ways and got shafted around 14k is a lot of money to most people.

What else was he to do fly a banner on an airplane above his house?

And he's not anon, I'm sure as shit he'd say his name and info if someone promised him his 14k.

GoD you are an IDIOT... Take the time to read all the Posts DIPSHIT :2 cents:

I have bought a ton of content from Russ and have never had any issues or drama. He is one of the few I don't have to hunt down missing ids, releases, color correct his work. When it comes its professional and its done right. I wish I could say the same for other producers, in fact Russ's work is displayed as an example on my shooting specifications.

I hope this gets resolved, ATK has a very good reputation and I am sure they will work it out with Russ.

Problem solved? Or not yet?

Hint to shooters. Bill every month, do not let a tab run so high while assuming you are working with "Great" guys with supurb reputation. Money talks, bullshit walks.
You can't pay bills with bullshit.

It's not hard to do work the books to get paid monthly. Besides your business will run smoother if you run everything correctly monthly, and obviously you may not take such a loss on running tabs that are not paid by clients.

IMHO this situation should have been resolved within the first 10 minutes of exhistance. SO the fact here is now starting to show some shit play to light.

Back to the top.

Thread closed based on thread starters post here. Russ if you want this thread reopened please let me know.

Also thread closed to protect AlienQ from himself! :1orglaugh