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Old 11-04-2008, 06:46 PM   #1
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Pre calling of states results is BULLSHIT!!!

Rep or Dem ... if I'm standing in line somewhere or driving to vote and it appears my vote is useless why vote? Who knows how this affects turnout ia a close race.


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Old 11-04-2008, 06:47 PM   #2
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i agree they should call it on the 5th
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:49 PM   #3
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i agree they should call it on the 5th
And residents of smaller western states must feel useless sometimes.


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Old 11-04-2008, 06:50 PM   #4
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Maybe not the 5th, but calling states that have 1% of the vote counted is absolutely bullshit. Like I said in another thread today, the media controls the elections. This just further proves my point. Just like in '00...just like in '04...

I think that at the absolute LEAST they should have to wait until 75% of precincts are reported before they call a state. Also, there should be media blackouts in states that the polls are still open in.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:53 PM   #5
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The "Liberal" Americans as the Repubs so call Democrats with a slur are hard to get up out of a chair and go vote. Liberal America sleeps most the time which is why the RIightest/Conservative agenda has flourished for so long. Fact is Liberals didnt give a shit enough to vote or care...

Well...
Liberal America has awaken to actually get up and vote this time around. The Conservatives kicked up a hornet's nest...
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:55 PM   #6
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The "Liberal" Americans as the Repubs so call Democrats with a slur are hard to get up out of a chair and go vote. Liberal America sleeps most the time which is why the RIightest/Conservative agenda has flourished for so long. Fact is Liberals didnt give a shit enough to vote or care...

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Liberal America has awaken to actually get up and vote this time around. The Conservatives kicked up a hornet's nest...
Thanks for changing the subject


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Old 11-04-2008, 06:58 PM   #7
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Nah man.. Just pointing out why so many important voters fail to go and vote.

During this election I learned something interesting.


See the Republicans and Conservatives really are a small portion of America, they know that being vocal is important and they know going out to vote is important. Liberal's on the other hand are very difficult to get up and motivated. Liberals are folks that go with what ever comes along and the fact is, its easy to dismiss over 3/4's of America's voting potential on the simple basis that the majority of Americans never go and vote.

Only because they do not care enough to vote, or believe thier vote do not count. That demographic of none voting Americans are Liberals or Democrats which is a HUGE potential of votes that remain silent over 90% of the time when it comes to voting or participating in the political process.

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Old 11-04-2008, 07:02 PM   #8
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Its the Silent Majority that have allowed America to fall into the shit it has.

Lets just hope the next Presidency with Obama can correct the land we call America and put our country on the right track for its people and the world once again as a great nation. America has lost so much respect internationaly speaking one might wonder if America will have be what it was before Bush.
The Bush years will be regarded as the darkest times in American history ever...

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Old 11-04-2008, 07:05 PM   #9
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Alien, I know. What pisses me off is how the media is making voters in many states know or feel their votes are useless. EVERY American should vote. EVERY American should feel they participate and matter when voting.

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Old 11-04-2008, 07:07 PM   #10
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Alien, I know. What pisses me off is how the media is making voters in many states know or feel their votes are useless. EVERY American should vote. EVERY American should feel they participate and matter when voting.

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You do realize they don't call any state until the polls are closed in that state...don't you?
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:10 PM   #11
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You do realize they don't call any state until the polls are closed in that state...don't you?
Yes. If I lived in a western state why make the effort if someone has already been declared the winner. Declared the winner when less than 50% of votes are in?
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your votes don't count anyway, learn politics

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Alien, I know. What pisses me off is how the media is making voters in many states know or feel their votes are useless. EVERY American should vote. EVERY American should feel they participate and matter when voting.

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Old 11-04-2008, 07:11 PM   #14
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your votes don't count anyway, learn polictics
And then there's that too
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:14 PM   #15
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You do realize they don't call any state until the polls are closed in that state...don't you?
Yes, but you can't give a state to someone when you only have 1 percent of the precincts reporting in. That is just plain stupid because it will probably change. Several states they are claiming for Obama have no precincts reporting in yet.
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:16 PM   #16
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Alien, I know. What pisses me off is how the media is making voters in many states know or feel their votes are useless. EVERY American should vote. EVERY American should feel they participate and matter when voting.

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Popular vote counts for shit. It IS the electoral vote that wins the race. If you believe the sleepers are all the sudden awakened by the retoric, you have missed the big picture. We are in for one fucked rollercoaster that will go down the hill, and everyone will screeeeeeeem going thru the tunnel.
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:13 PM   #17
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Alien, I know. What pisses me off is how the media is making voters in many states know or feel their votes are useless. EVERY American should vote. EVERY American should feel they participate and matter when voting.

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I posted earlier on here and just got done writing a big article on this for my blog.

You think your vote counts if you are going against the color of your state?

Fact:
"While many people may believe they are voting for their presidential candidate, they are in actuality casting their vote for that candidate?s electors"

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Unless you live in a swing state or are in line with the color of your state, your vote does not count, it does not go to washington, it does not go to your candidate, it does not pass go and collect $200. It simply goes up in smoke.
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Old 11-04-2008, 08:30 PM   #18
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I know. They say... 1% is in we predict ________

How the fuck do they know who is gonna win if only 1% or 3% are in?
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source? which state has 1% of the votes counted with winner already declared?
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actually, nm, saw it myself, Mcain has more votes at the moment, and yet Obama is declared a winner? wtf?

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actually, nm, saw it myself, Mcain has more votes at the moment, and yet Obama is declared a winner? wtf?

They explained on CNN it's not just based on the actual votes but also on the exit polling and the potential error swing in them. Most of the states that were called in cases like that were supposedly once where the exit polling showed a fairly huge gap between them.

It's still bullshit but they aren't doing it just on 1% of the votes, but on the exit polling and "other information received" as they stated on CNN.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:29 PM   #22
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actually they dont call a state till the polls close

and its never over till cali gets called.
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i been tellin yall for months this one would be a landslide and it was 300+ EVs for Obama
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