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tony286 · 10-22-2008, 10:16 PM

The difference under Obama would be $257.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23780.html

ThunderBalls · 10-22-2008, 10:18 PM

Barefootsies · 10-22-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

for the people making 250k who are worrying about being taxed to death

That is EVERYONE on GFY

L-Pink · 10-22-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

The difference under Obama would be $257.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23780.html

So his big plan is to charge those making over 250,000 an additional $257. ???

How the fuck does that help anything?

Just Alex · 10-22-2008, 10:21 PM

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Im saving this one. OMFG.

woj · 10-23-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

So his big plan is to charge those making over 250,000 an additional $257. ???

How the fuck does that help anything?

charge those that make LESS than 250k extra $257, those that make OVER 250k will get fucked hard, will probably pay 1000s more than they do now...

Brujah · 10-23-2008, 01:24 AM

Do you have any idea what I could do with $257 per year?

After Shock Media · 10-23-2008, 01:29 AM

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Holy crap, they should of used that economic stimulus check to buy a spell checker or even a dictionary. They went so maverick that real words do not even apply to them anymore.

mynameisjim · 10-23-2008, 01:35 AM

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At least they've been paying attention to the buzz words.

GatorB · 10-23-2008, 01:43 AM

MCCain is so full of shit 9it's not even funny.

A) first of all he's running for President not King or Congress. The President doesn't enact tax laws CONGRESS does. If McCain wants to keep the Bush tax cut for the upper bracket he has to ask CONGRESS ot do it. Do you HONESTLY think a democratically controlled Congress will do that? Do you HONESTLY think a democratically controlled Congress will do ANYHTHING McCain wants without severe compromising on his part?

B) He talks about government giveaways and handouts and socialism. Didn't he vote FOR the bailout? yes. Isn't he proposing a $5000 tax CREDIT for his health care plan? YES. for those that don't know a CREDIT is not a DEDUCTION. A deduction you are just reducing your own taxes. A credit means the GOVERNMENT is giving you a check for $5000. Now where is this CREDIT money going to come from? Well he's going to TAX the HIGHEST income earners health insurance. So in other words he taking money form the wealthiest Americans and is going to REDISTRIBUTE it to everyone else. And this is different from Obama how?

He says Obama's health care plan is bad. Considering it's the SAME health plan McCain gladly accepts as being a member of the government and I find that laughable. If it's so bad why doesn't McCain get his own plan? It's not like he can't afford a private plan. his wife is worth over $100 million.

Also he says the government should stay out of healthcare. Last time I checked the money that you get from his health tax credit is coming form the GOVERNMENT. I about 100% positive the check will say "United States of America" on it somewhere. Is he seriously trying to tell us that he plans on giving everyone a $500 check and he's doesn't have any plan to make sure that check gets spent on health insurance instead of a HDTV or a vacation? If not then his "health" care plan is not only stupid, but won't solve the health care problem at all. If he does have some sort of accounting for the money then that IS in fact getting the government involved.

GatorB · 10-23-2008, 01:45 AM

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Unfortunately these are the type of people that gave us 8 years of Bush. I'm not exactly sure if I was McCain I would want this to be an example fo the type of supporter I want to have on my side.

seeandsee · 10-23-2008, 02:17 AM

Obama Wins!

MovieMaster · 10-23-2008, 02:18 AM

Matt 26z · 10-23-2008, 02:20 AM

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There is no arguing with these types either. Anything you try to explain to them about Obama is false and he is a liar.

What I also find is that the Republican target voting base doesn't even understand how the US government works. That's why Palin can get away with spewing this crap...

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Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, ?What does the Vice President do??

PALIN: That?s something that Piper would ask me! ? [T]hey?re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/palin-vp-senate/
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DWB · 10-23-2008, 03:08 AM

Here is the thing. They are all blowing smoke up your ass.

There is nothing either of them can do to fix shit or generate enough money to do anything. It's all a pipe dream and false promises to get them elected.

No need to worry.

Besides, if you are smart you do not pay much in taxes anyway. Let the poor uneducated people pay all the taxes.

WinstonTriplexcash · 10-23-2008, 03:27 AM

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Sending this out to everyone i know

dav3 · 10-23-2008, 04:17 AM

wow, that picture is worth 1,000 misspelled words

adonthenet · 10-23-2008, 04:56 AM

Obama will win it in the end. you will see....

pigman · 10-23-2008, 05:03 AM

I hope Obama increase taxes, for most people.
Your government need to stop making a deficit.

BlackCrayon · 10-23-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

charge those that make LESS than 250k extra $257, those that make OVER 250k will get fucked hard, will probably pay 1000s more than they do now...

Heres the breakdown as far as I understand it...

Obama wants to increase taxes by 3% for those making a profit of over 250,000... remember I said profit. So if someone is making 300,000 profit... 50,000 of that will be taxed at the higher level resulting in having to pay about $1500 more than they are now for that same amount. People who are making over 700,000 profit have a higher bracket and so on.

xmas13 · 10-23-2008, 07:50 AM

Are you a former Jehovah's Witness?

xmas13 · 10-23-2008, 07:52 AM

StuartD · 10-23-2008, 07:56 AM

The problem is that there's a bad word for a government that supports it's people "socialest" (according to that pic).

There is no bad word for a government that borrows money until it's the poorest rich country on the planet and then creates money out of thin air that the tax payers have to pay back.

Create a governmental political word for that type of government and suddenly there'll be a new bad guy in town.

IllTestYourGirls · 10-23-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

The problem is that there's a bad word for a government that supports it's people "socialest" (according to that pic).

There is no bad word for a government that borrows money until it's the poorest rich country on the planet and then creates money out of thin air that the tax payers have to pay back.

Create a governmental political word for that type of government and suddenly there'll be a new bad guy in town.

Yup its sad. Obama supporters dont even realize that he will continue to do this. We can not tax our way out of this problem. Obama will have to cut spending or print money.

digi · 10-23-2008, 08:04 AM

fuck government, that shit is broken either way

money is the only politics in this world

DaddyHalbucks · 10-23-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

The difference under Obama would be $257.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23780.html

If you believe that, I have some bankrupt federal entitlement programs I'd like to sell you.

cherrylula · 10-23-2008, 09:50 AM

They talk about how broke this country is yet they keep giving tax refund "stimulus" checks out.

How the hell is this country in an economic crisis if they keep sending families checks for a few hundred bucks each???

LIES LIES LIES

Stephen · 10-23-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

The difference under Obama would be $257.

Seriously, do you really believe that?

DAMNMAN · 10-23-2008, 10:13 AM

I'll gladly pay the extra money $257 etc...... not to have McCain/Palin in the whitehouse. Do you think the adult Industry is going to be immune from a witch hunt from this religious slag???????

Tom_PM · 10-23-2008, 10:15 AM

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If it had said "howz bout you" I might have just shit myself right here and now.

tony286 · 10-23-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Seriously, do you really believe that?

did you click and actually read or are you more comfortable following right wing pundits? Also dont you know your industries history? Why do you think Larry Flynt is a democrat because he loves paying taxes?

germ · 10-23-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

If you believe that, I have some bankrupt federal entitlement programs I'd like to sell you.

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Seriously, do you really believe that?

He posted a link to back his claims up.

You guys are comfortable rebutting that by just saying "Nope..youre wrong and Im right"?

Your debating skills are seriously lacking.

xmas13 · 10-23-2008, 11:06 AM

Partisan politics.

par·ti·san 1 (pärt-zn)
n.
1. A fervent, sometimes militant supporter or proponent of a party, cause, faction, person, or idea.
2. A member of an organized body of fighters who attack or harass an enemy, especially within occupied territory; a guerrilla.

tony286 · 10-23-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

Partisan politics.

par·ti·san 1 (pärt-zn)
n.
1. A fervent, sometimes militant supporter or proponent of a party, cause, faction, person, or idea.
2. A member of an organized body of fighters who attack or harass an enemy, especially within occupied territory; a guerrilla.

its not partisan the link i posted
The Tax Policy Blog is the official weblog of the Tax Foundation, a non-partisan, non-profit research organization that has monitored tax policy at the federal, state and local levels since 1937.

AtlantisCash · 10-23-2008, 11:17 AM

Americans!, Be smarter, didn't You get tired how republicans fucked your economy during the 8 years and How United States lost it's Prestige during 8 years, because of Their fucking politics?

vote for economy this time and all times.

Ok i agree since Your presidents are mostly dumbfuck puppets, Nothing will change in fact, but at least Your Strategy makers may re Regulate their plans within looking Your views...

RobertD · 10-23-2008, 11:26 AM

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Obama will not enslave you.

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Stephen · 10-23-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by germ

He posted a link to back his claims up.

No, he posted a link to other people's claims...

Look, if Obama wants to write me an affidavit saying that the extent of the increase in my tax obligations will be limited to an additional $257 a year, then I'll write him a check for $1,028 to cover his 4 years of idiocy and cast a vote for him.

But frankly, THAT has as much a chance of happening as does a "only $257/yr increase"

StuartD · 10-23-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

No, he posted a link to other people's claims...

Look, if Obama wants to write me an affidavit saying that the extent of the increase in my tax obligations will be limited to an additional $257 a year, then I'll write him a check for $1,028 to cover his 4 years of idiocy and cast a vote for him.

But frankly, THAT has as much a chance of happening as does a "only $257/yr increase"

And what has McCain personally hand written and delivered to you to persuade you to vote for him?

tony286 · 10-23-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

No, he posted a link to other people's claims...

Look, if Obama wants to write me an affidavit saying that the extent of the increase in my tax obligations will be limited to an additional $257 a year, then I'll write him a check for $1,028 to cover his 4 years of idiocy and cast a vote for him.

But frankly, THAT has as much a chance of happening as does a "only $257/yr increase"

other peoples claims thats too funny.
The Tax Policy Blog is the official weblog of the Tax Foundation, a non-partisan, non-profit research organization that has monitored tax policy at the federal, state and local levels since 1937.

Stephen · 10-23-2008, 01:17 PM

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other peoples claims thats too funny.
The Tax Policy Blog is the official weblog of the Tax Foundation, a non-partisan, non-profit research organization that has monitored tax policy at the federal, state and local levels since 1937.

From the bottom of their homepage (where the figures you quoted are from):

"Disclaimer: All views expressed on the Tax Foundation?s Tax Policy Blog are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Tax Foundation, its Board of Directors, or its financial contributors. The Tax Foundation makes no representation concerning the views expressed, and does not guarantee the source, originality, accuracy, completeness or reliability of any statement, information, data, finding, interpretation, advice, opinion, or view presented."

So, you can take those numbers as seriously as any posted on any public forum...

Stephen · 10-23-2008, 01:25 PM

Also, I don't know if you noticed a little further past the claimed $257 increase:

"Under McCain, Joe the Plumber would pay $56,731 in 2011. Under Obama, Joe the Plumber would pay $58,371 in 2011. That means his tax liability would be about $1,640 lower under McCain compared to Obama in 2011."

czarina · 10-23-2008, 01:26 PM

I make under 200K a year, and it will take me a good while to get to 250K, so I'm not worried.
In any case, paying a few extra bucks is worth not having that pr*ck of McCain in office.

Stephen · 10-23-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

I make under 200K a year, and it will take me a good while to get to 250K, so I'm not worried.

But you should be worried as it will take you even longer under Obama to reach a decent income

tony286 · 10-23-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

From the bottom of their homepage (where the figures you quoted are from):

"Disclaimer: All views expressed on the Tax Foundation?s Tax Policy Blog are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the views of the Tax Foundation, its Board of Directors, or its financial contributors. The Tax Foundation makes no representation concerning the views expressed, and does not guarantee the source, originality, accuracy, completeness or reliability of any statement, information, data, finding, interpretation, advice, opinion, or view presented."

So, you can take those numbers as seriously as any posted on any public forum...

Well actually the two guys who wrote that are on staff at the tax foundation and lets look at them

Gerald Prante

Senior Economist
Gerald Prante is a senior economist at the Tax Foundation and a Ph.D. student (ABD) in economics at George Mason University. While at the Tax Foundation, Gerald has done work on issues at both the federal and local levels with a special emphasis in data analysis, including microsimulation models and local geographic data. On issues, he specializes in the federal income tax at the federal level and property taxes at the state/local level. His work has been featured in the New York Times, Atlantic Monthly, the Economist, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, USA Today, and the New York Post, among others. He has appeared on C-SPAN's Washington Journal program, as well as CNBC and numerous radio programs. Gerald holds a bachelor?s degree in economics and political science, and a master?s degree in economics from Southern Illinois University Edwardsville. Gerald has also taught economics at Southwestern Illinois College and East Central College. While at the Tax Foundation, he is pursuing a doctorate in economics at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, specializing in the fields of public finance and industrial organization. He is currently working on his dissertation.

Mark Robyn

Analyst/Programmer
Mark Robyn is an analyst at the Tax Foundation. He conducts research in support of Tax Foundation economists working on a variety of federal, state, and local tax policy issues. His research has focused on various subjects such as the alternative minimum tax, the earned income credit, and the child credit. Mark has also aided in the development of the Tax Foundation's federal income tax computer simulation. Mark holds a B.S. in applied mathematics from Geneva College.

If not them how about the washington post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060900950.html

tony286 · 10-23-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

But you should be worried as it will take you even longer under Obama to reach a decent income

How is that ? Under Bush wages have dropped and employment has dropped and that was even before the blow up of the economy.

GatorB · 10-23-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Also, I don't know if you noticed a little further past the claimed $257 increase:

"Under McCain, Joe the Plumber would pay $56,731 in 2011. Under Obama, Joe the Plumber would pay $58,371 in 2011. That means his tax liability would be about $1,640 lower under McCain compared to Obama in 2011."

Um if you can afford $56,731 yo can afford $58,371.

Let put it another way. If his tax was $100 under McCain it would then "supposedly" increase to $102.89 under Obama. WOW $3. Big whoop. Of course this doesn't take into account that McCain would tax Joe's health insurance premiums.

GatorB · 10-23-2008, 01:45 PM

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So? I like how supporters of the super rich act as if INCOME taxes are the ONLY taxes paid by people. Fact is a person making $1 mil a year pays only 2.07% of his income in FICA taxes while the guy making minimum wage pays 7.65%

pocketkangaroo · 10-23-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

So? I like how supporters of the super rich act as if INCOME taxes are the ONLY taxes paid by people. Fact is a person making $1 mil a year pays only 2.07% of his income in FICA taxes while the guy making minimum wage pays 7.65%

It's actually a bigger gap because the rate is technically 15%. So the guy making minimum wage is paying 15% up front.

tiger · 10-23-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Also, I don't know if you noticed a little further past the claimed $257 increase:

"Under McCain, Joe the Plumber would pay $56,731 in 2011. Under Obama, Joe the Plumber would pay $58,371 in 2011. That means his tax liability would be about $1,640 lower under McCain compared to Obama in 2011."

How is he going to pay 50k in takes when the guy only makes 40k.

uno · 10-23-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Do you have any idea what I could do with $257 per year?

renew about 30 domains for the year?

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GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	MCCain is so full of shit 9it's not even funny. A) first of all he's running for President not King or Congress. The President doesn't enact tax laws CONGRESS does. If McCain wants to keep the Bush tax cut for the upper bracket he has to ask CONGRESS ot do it. Do you HONESTLY think a democratically controlled Congress will do that? Do you HONESTLY think a democratically controlled Congress will do ANYHTHING McCain wants without severe compromising on his part? B) He talks about government giveaways and handouts and socialism. Didn't he vote FOR the bailout? yes. Isn't he proposing a $5000 tax CREDIT for his health care plan? YES. for those that don't know a CREDIT is not a DEDUCTION. A deduction you are just reducing your own taxes. A credit means the GOVERNMENT is giving you a check for $5000. Now where is this CREDIT money going to come from? Well he's going to TAX the HIGHEST income earners health insurance. So in other words he taking money form the wealthiest Americans and is going to REDISTRIBUTE it to everyone else. And this is different from Obama how? He says Obama's health care plan is bad. Considering it's the SAME health plan McCain gladly accepts as being a member of the government and I find that laughable. If it's so bad why doesn't McCain get his own plan? It's not like he can't afford a private plan. his wife is worth over $100 million. Also he says the government should stay out of healthcare. Last time I checked the money that you get from his health tax credit is coming form the GOVERNMENT. I about 100% positive the check will say "United States of America" on it somewhere. Is he seriously trying to tell us that he plans on giving everyone a $500 check and he's doesn't have any plan to make sure that check gets spent on health insurance instead of a HDTV or a vacation? If not then his "health" care plan is not only stupid, but won't solve the health care problem at all. If he does have some sort of accounting for the money then that IS in fact getting the government involved.

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