If you only use one sponsor get another job.... - GoFuckYourself.com

Krome · 10-27-2002, 02:40 PM

Some people wonder why they can not live off of the adult industry...I have been doing this shit for years and my golden rule...although I think this works in any industry is to utilise more than one source of revenue...you cant be there each month waiting for one check to come through...you need multiple....Personally I reckon everyone should promote 20 plus sponsors....

There are loads of webmaster resource areas that list all the sponsors and tell you if they have free content etc...

Check out
www.ynotmasters.com
www.pornresource.com

There are loads.....go through them all and find shit that you like...I am useless at promoting Fetish and Gay because I am not into that stuff....

Remember the golden saying "Dont keep all your eggs in one basket..."

These words of crap wisdom were brought to you by Mr. "I Live on Welfare" Krome.....

Fletch XXX · 10-27-2002, 02:42 PM

I agree.

I learned my lesson last year with ClickCash.

I was counting on more than 3k that didnt come and it fudged me up a bit, now I know better.

Good advice, really.

;)

Rictor · 10-27-2002, 02:42 PM

I thought the real path to riches was to start your OWN webmaster program...come on...everybody's doing it.

Sly_RJ · 10-27-2002, 02:48 PM

I send the same amount of traffic to about 8 sponsors. Nice start, need to take it up a notch. Good suggestion Krome.

Morgan · 10-27-2002, 02:48 PM

WHat?? LOL

SleazyDream · 10-27-2002, 02:49 PM

i only use one sponser......................

sweetcuties · 10-27-2002, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
I thought the real path to riches was to start your OWN webmaster program...come on...everybody's doing it.

Machete_ · 10-27-2002, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
I thought the real path to riches was to start your OWN webmaster program...come on...everybody's doing it.

That was what I've been thinking the last 2 weeks .. In 2-4 weeks I can tell you if it works...

But thanks for the tips Krome

Krome · 10-27-2002, 03:06 PM

Ok golden rule number 2...when starting your own program use exclusive content or kiss your rebills goodbye...

Machete_ · 10-27-2002, 03:10 PM

++++ writing it all down ++++

...and rule nr. 3 is ?

Theo · 10-27-2002, 03:16 PM

never start a sponsor program if you don't have a unique concept to provide to the webmasters UNLESS you have your own traffic to keep the sponsor up till you find webmasters able to send signups.

90% of the paysites with affiliate program barely receive signups.

Plat · 10-27-2002, 03:16 PM

Dont put all your traffic into one sponsor, thats a no no unless of course its your own paysite or whatever.

And ya fletch clickcash taught me that lesson as well o_0

Krome · 10-27-2002, 03:33 PM

Rule number 3 and this is the most important going if you are going to start your own paysite.....MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LAWYER WHO WOULD SELL HIS OWN MOTHER....All your contracts between you and the models must be 100% legal...

This is a good place to start for some types of contract
http://www.writing-world.com/links/business.html

...Never just get these and re-write them your name....Do get them, do re-write them but then have YOUR (As in go out and get a solicitor and have him associated with your company) solicitor to check through it for you...Also have a decent witness...not your pissed mate who turned up to watch the shoot as the strip club was shut in the day time...

Machete_ · 10-27-2002, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome

This is a good place to start for some types of contract
http://www.writing-world.com/links/business.html

Great site :D .. dident know that kind existed... Actually had my company's legal advisor go through all my stuff in regards to copyright and "prove-of-ovnership"

Machete_ · 10-27-2002, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
never start a sponsor program if you don't have a unique concept to provide to the webmasters UNLESS you have your own traffic to keep the sponsor up till you find webmasters able to send signups.

90% of the paysites with affiliate program barely receive signups.

It is really unique .. and Im so zyked about it.. just wont tell any about it yet.. wanna be the first

Krome · 10-27-2002, 03:59 PM

Rule Number 4 - If running a partner program do not use consoles.....You need to make sure your affiliates are makig $$$$$ with you not you making 100% from your affiliates traffic....

Check my tours www.ukpornochicks.com www.xxxmichellethorne.com www.xxxvida.com www.ukvideobabes.com they all have zero consoles and hence my affiliates get paid....

You can use consoles if your affiliates get credited with them, but toher wise leave them the fuck off...Do not bite the hand that feeds you...

fear · 10-27-2002, 04:08 PM

damn... how many rules are there?

Krome · 10-27-2002, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fear
damn... how many rules are there?

To be quite honest i am making it up as I go along...however this is all vital young Jedi.....We dont want you going over to the dark side and running beast site now do we?

Rictor · 10-27-2002, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
Rule Number 4 - If running a partner program do not use consoles.....You need to make sure your affiliates are makig $$$$$ with you not you making 100% from your affiliates traffic....

Check my tours www.ukpornochicks.com www.xxxmichellethorne.com www.xxxvida.com www.ukvideobabes.com they all have zero consoles and hence my affiliates get paid....

You can use consoles if your affiliates get credited with them, but toher wise leave them the fuck off...Do not bite the hand that feeds you...

Too bad the big sponsors don't follow that rule.

Machete_ · 10-27-2002, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fear
damn... how many rules are there?

think he is like Moses -- he is giving us the 10 commandments - or what you call it in english

I voted "krome for pope" just so you know

Brown Bear · 10-27-2002, 04:31 PM

Hey Krome, there is this British chick that Blacks on Blondes has in their videos, have you seen her? Do you know who she is? What her name is?

Brown Bear · 10-27-2002, 04:32 PM

Here is the girl I'm talking about:

http://www.savagesonblondes.com/sexy...ritz42xxx.html

Who is she?

heymatty · 10-27-2002, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Rule Number 4 - If running a partner program do not use consoles.....You need to make sure your affiliates are makig $$$$$ with you not you making 100% from your affiliates traffic....

Check my tours www.ukpornochicks.com www.xxxmichellethorne.com www.xxxvida.com www.ukvideobabes.com they all have zero consoles and hence my affiliates get paid....

You can use consoles if your affiliates get credited with them, but toher wise leave them the fuck off...Do not bite the hand that feeds you...

Way too simplistic.

0 consoles = less money. Less money for the program owner = less money for affiliates.

Most consoles affiliates get paid on anyways, on most programs.

quiet · 10-27-2002, 04:41 PM

1st rule. don't talk about the rules.

Krome · 10-27-2002, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear
Here is the girl I'm talking about:

http://www.savagesonblondes.com/sexy...ritz42xxx.html

Who is she?

I know her name...It is one of two girls that I always get muddled up...GIve me thirty minutes and I will be back with her name...

Brown Bear · 10-27-2002, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome

I know her name...It is one of two girls that I always get muddled up...GIve me thirty minutes and I will be back with her name...

I think her name is something like Rachel Long....or something like that...I'm not sure.

C'mon, you're a British porn expert....you gotta know.

Tipsy · 10-27-2002, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor

Too bad the big sponsors don't follow that rule.

Many now do. Signups from exits are quite a nice little bonus each period now they do credit for them.

Krome · 10-27-2002, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by heymatty

Way too simplistic.

0 consoles = less money. Less money for the program owner = less money for affiliates.

Most consoles affiliates get paid on anyways, on most programs.

Do you actually reckon in your heart of hearts that they will pay you fairly? get real...ok look at it this way...If you were in an area where you did not feel safe would you pull out your wallet?

Consoles put the surfer at unease...he can not control the situation with all the pop up shit....Therefore he feels unsafe...People like to be in control...Make the surfer feels as though they are in charge and bang they buy....

Krome · 10-27-2002, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown Bear

I think her name is something like Rachel Long....or something like that...I'm not sure.

C'mon, you're a British porn expert....you gotta know.

I always get Angel Long and Amy Ball muddled up:

http://bgafd.co.uk/girls/a/a0109.shtml

http://bgafd.co.uk/girls/a/a0107.shtml

Dopy · 10-27-2002, 04:57 PM

Rule 5 never say never

Brown Bear · 10-27-2002, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome

I always get Angel Long and Amy Ball muddled up:

http://bgafd.co.uk/girls/a/a0109.shtml

http://bgafd.co.uk/girls/a/a0107.shtml

Yeah, I think she goes by the name Ashley Long in most of her appearances.

421Fill · 10-27-2002, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
1st rule. don't talk about the rules.

hehehe. fight club was such a cool movie.

jimmyf · 10-27-2002, 05:22 PM

I'm all screwed up, I can't remember the rules I made...

richard · 10-27-2002, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
1st rule. don't talk about the rules.

Rule #2, first learn rule #1.

Karate for defense only.

Yeaursh!

Krome · 10-27-2002, 05:47 PM

Rule number 5 - Fuck the TGP game. Search engines make you more money and have more traffic. You get 40k or more through a Hun listing that lasts a day. You can get 40k per day from search engines that last a life time. Better convertion ratios, more targtetted traffic if you know what you are doing.

mongoose403 · 10-27-2002, 05:53 PM

quote:
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Rule Number 4 - If running a partner program do not use consoles.....You need to make sure your affiliates are makig $$$$$ with you not you making 100% from your affiliates traffic....

Check my tours www.ukpornochicks.com www.xxxmichellethorne.com www.xxxvida.com www.ukvideobabes.com they all have zero consoles and hence my affiliates get paid....

You can use consoles if your affiliates get credited with them, but toher wise leave them the fuck off...Do not bite the hand that feeds you...
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Way too simplistic.

0 consoles = less money. Less money for the program owner = less money for affiliates.

Most consoles affiliates get paid on anyways, on most programs.

---------

rule #7

dont send spam to your affiliate webmasters......

Niki · 10-27-2002, 05:57 PM

rule #6 ... fuck all rules ;))))

Krome · 10-27-2002, 06:02 PM

Quote:

rule #7

dont send spam to your affiliate webmasters......

It is quite funny that you say that I got accused of spamming due to me sending out a mail to all people that had submitted to one to one of my link lists...The only way they could have got multiple emails is if they had spammed me by double submitting....Funny how spammers cry when they believe it has happened to them....

Honeyslut · 10-27-2002, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
Rule Number 4 - If running a partner program do not use consoles.....You need to make sure your affiliates are makig $$$$$ with you not you making 100% from your affiliates traffic....

Check my tours www.ukpornochicks.com www.xxxmichellethorne.com www.xxxvida.com www.ukvideobabes.com they all have zero consoles and hence my affiliates get paid....

You can use consoles if your affiliates get credited with them, but toher wise leave them the fuck off...Do not bite the hand that feeds you...

Or make a separate tour for the affiliate's with NO traffic leaks or consoles .

I have consoles on my site but NONE on the urls that the affiliates use.

mongoose403 · 10-27-2002, 06:21 PM

actually I am talking about wootwootcash

Krome · 10-27-2002, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mongoose403
actually I am talking about wootwootcash

I knew youwerent talk about me because I am lovely!!

mongoose403 · 10-27-2002, 06:35 PM

do you shoot your own content?

Student · 10-27-2002, 06:43 PM

I'm feeling really stupid,
I need to get some paper and write this down

So is there 7 or 8 rules, and can someone recap them for me!!

Thanks

Krome · 10-27-2002, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mongoose403
do you shoot your own content?

It is all done for me...I have contracts with some of the biggest UK photographers John Mason and many more...They do the hard work I just run the web based side.

Krome · 10-27-2002, 06:57 PM

Actually when choosing a sponsor always test your links...if consoles fly up all over the place without your code on them and it becomes a wanker to get through the tour then fuck them....they have no interest in converting the traffic within themselves and would prefer to send the traffic to someone else and make cash....

mongoose403 · 10-27-2002, 07:00 PM

quote:
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It is all done for me...I have contracts with some of the biggest UK photographers John Mason and many more...They do the hard work I just run the web based side.

but you're missing out on the funnest part!

mongoose403 · 10-27-2002, 07:04 PM

getting back to your original post, dont you think having 15+ sponsors
might be spreading yourself too thin?

Krome · 10-27-2002, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mongoose403
quote:

but you're missing out on the funnest part!

I suppose.....but you need quality so fucking the models all day during the shoot is not good...fuck him after....allowing she has not just done bukake....

Krome · 10-27-2002, 07:14 PM

Rule Number 6

Beta test your sites to fuck....This is a link to a leading UK base porn forum. I gave 15 forum regulars a user name and pass and had them post their reviews of the site on the forum.

It increased publice awareness of the sites and also gave me tons of feedback before going live. It also enabled us to find any fuck ups that we had made in the sites and enabled us to iron out the bugs..

http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=1&i=57467&t=57467

I am posting under the name of Bob Spunkhouse....I had hyped the sites up on there for a week before giving the pass. This also enabled me to build up pre-launch publicity and the fact that virtually every UK pervert reads this board got the sites credibility with regard to the claims made on the tours.

Basically we killed lots of birds with one pebble....

mongoose403 · 10-27-2002, 07:54 PM

getting back to your original post, dont you think having 15+ sponsors
might be spreading yourself too thin?

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10-27-2002, 03:16 PM	#12
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10-27-2002, 03:33 PM	#13
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Rule number 3 and this is the most important going if you are going to start your own paysite.....MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LAWYER WHO WOULD SELL HIS OWN MOTHER....All your contracts between you and the models must be 100% legal... This is a good place to start for some types of contract http://www.writing-world.com/links/business.html ...Never just get these and re-write them your name....Do get them, do re-write them but then have YOUR (As in go out and get a solicitor and have him associated with your company) solicitor to check through it for you...Also have a decent witness...not your pissed mate who turned up to watch the shoot as the strip club was shut in the day time... Last edited by Krome; 10-27-2002 at 03:43 PM..

10-27-2002, 04:31 PM	#21
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10-27-2002, 02:40 PM	#1
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	If you only use one sponsor get another job.... Some people wonder why they can not live off of the adult industry...I have been doing this shit for years and my golden rule...although I think this works in any industry is to utilise more than one source of revenue...you cant be there each month waiting for one check to come through...you need multiple....Personally I reckon everyone should promote 20 plus sponsors.... There are loads of webmaster resource areas that list all the sponsors and tell you if they have free content etc... Check out www.ynotmasters.com www.pornresource.com There are loads.....go through them all and find shit that you like...I am useless at promoting Fetish and Gay because I am not into that stuff.... Remember the golden saying "Dont keep all your eggs in one basket..." These words of crap wisdom were brought to you by Mr. "I Live on Welfare" Krome.....

10-27-2002, 02:42 PM	#2
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I agree. I learned my lesson last year with ClickCash. I was counting on more than 3k that didnt come and it fudged me up a bit, now I know better. Good advice, really. ;) __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

10-27-2002, 02:42 PM	#3
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	I thought the real path to riches was to start your OWN webmaster program...come on...everybody's doing it.

10-27-2002, 02:49 PM	#6
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i only use one sponser...................... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

10-27-2002, 03:06 PM	#9
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Ok golden rule number 2...when starting your own program use exclusive content or kiss your rebills goodbye...

10-27-2002, 03:10 PM	#10
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	++++ writing it all down ++++ ...and rule nr. 3 is ?

10-27-2002, 03:16 PM	#11
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	never start a sponsor program if you don't have a unique concept to provide to the webmasters UNLESS you have your own traffic to keep the sponsor up till you find webmasters able to send signups. 90% of the paysites with affiliate program barely receive signups.

10-27-2002, 03:59 PM	#16
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Rule Number 4 - If running a partner program do not use consoles.....You need to make sure your affiliates are makig $$$$$ with you not you making 100% from your affiliates traffic.... Check my tours www.ukpornochicks.com www.xxxmichellethorne.com www.xxxvida.com www.ukvideobabes.com they all have zero consoles and hence my affiliates get paid.... You can use consoles if your affiliates get credited with them, but toher wise leave them the fuck off...Do not bite the hand that feeds you...

10-27-2002, 04:08 PM	#17
fear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Scandinavia Posts: 379	damn... how many rules are there?

10-27-2002, 04:32 PM	#22
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10-27-2002, 04:41 PM	#24
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	1st rule. don't talk about the rules. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-27-2002, 04:57 PM	#30
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10-27-2002, 05:22 PM	#33
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10-27-2002, 05:47 PM	#35
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Rule number 5 - Fuck the TGP game. Search engines make you more money and have more traffic. You get 40k or more through a Hun listing that lasts a day. You can get 40k per day from search engines that last a life time. Better convertion ratios, more targtetted traffic if you know what you are doing.

10-27-2002, 05:53 PM	#36
mongoose403 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: wild ho country Posts: 143	quote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rule Number 4 - If running a partner program do not use consoles.....You need to make sure your affiliates are makig $$$$$ with you not you making 100% from your affiliates traffic.... Check my tours www.ukpornochicks.com www.xxxmichellethorne.com www.xxxvida.com www.ukvideobabes.com they all have zero consoles and hence my affiliates get paid.... You can use consoles if your affiliates get credited with them, but toher wise leave them the fuck off...Do not bite the hand that feeds you... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Way too simplistic. 0 consoles = less money. Less money for the program owner = less money for affiliates. Most consoles affiliates get paid on anyways, on most programs. --------- rule #7 dont send spam to your affiliate webmasters......

10-27-2002, 05:57 PM	#37
Niki Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,476	rule #6 ... fuck all rules ;)))) __________________ Ivo

10-27-2002, 06:21 PM	#40
mongoose403 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: wild ho country Posts: 143	actually I am talking about wootwootcash

10-27-2002, 06:35 PM	#42
mongoose403 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: wild ho country Posts: 143	do you shoot your own content?

10-27-2002, 06:43 PM	#43
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10-27-2002, 06:57 PM	#45
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Actually when choosing a sponsor always test your links...if consoles fly up all over the place without your code on them and it becomes a wanker to get through the tour then fuck them....they have no interest in converting the traffic within themselves and would prefer to send the traffic to someone else and make cash....

10-27-2002, 07:00 PM	#46
mongoose403 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: wild ho country Posts: 143	quote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It is all done for me...I have contracts with some of the biggest UK photographers John Mason and many more...They do the hard work I just run the web based side. but you're missing out on the funnest part!

10-27-2002, 07:04 PM	#47
mongoose403 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: wild ho country Posts: 143	getting back to your original post, dont you think having 15+ sponsors might be spreading yourself too thin?

10-27-2002, 07:14 PM	#49
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Rule Number 6 Beta test your sites to fuck....This is a link to a leading UK base porn forum. I gave 15 forum regulars a user name and pass and had them post their reviews of the site on the forum. It increased publice awareness of the sites and also gave me tons of feedback before going live. It also enabled us to find any fuck ups that we had made in the sites and enabled us to iron out the bugs.. http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=1&i=57467&t=57467 I am posting under the name of Bob Spunkhouse....I had hyped the sites up on there for a week before giving the pass. This also enabled me to build up pre-launch publicity and the fact that virtually every UK pervert reads this board got the sites credibility with regard to the claims made on the tours. Basically we killed lots of birds with one pebble....

10-27-2002, 07:54 PM	#50
mongoose403 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: wild ho country Posts: 143	getting back to your original post, dont you think having 15+ sponsors might be spreading yourself too thin?