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Barefootsies · 10-10-2008, 01:46 PM

We are headed for some wicked hard times. Some of us are already feeling the sting. Some of you are just getting out of college with a monster load of debt and are going to have a hard time finding a job. Some of you are going to lose your jobs and be out of work for quite a bit of time. Some of you are about to hit rock bottom. Some of you have hit it years ago. Some of you wont hit rock bottom for years to come.

I hit rock bottom about 8 years ago. I was fired from my job and lived on credit cards for months while trying find another job. After several months of no luck and not being able to make credit card payments, the credit card companies started to close my accounts and send me to debt collectors. I soon was evicted from my apartment after missing payment(s).

So there I was.. 25 years old, about 50k in debt with a lot of it being super high interest credit card debt spread among about 5 different cards, no job, no place to live and if that wasn?t bad enough I was also super fat.

Rock bottom. I will tell you its the best thing that ever happen to me. Its when you hit rock bottom that you find yourself and it gives you an amazing education that is priceless. At the time it happens its very painful but if you can fight through it and do the hardwork that needs to be done the rewards will be that much sweeter on the other side.

A lot of people ask me why I do not have super flashy cars or fly first class? or whatever super luxurious thing other cool people are doing? the answer is pretty simple. I have a hard time wasting money. I remember how much it sucked when I hit rock bottom and I never want to feel like that again. Some people might hear that then look at my h2 and think that is flashy?. guess what? Its a lease and it was practically free because we traded out work with the hummer dealership.

Hitting rock bottom taught me the value of money. It also taught me to hustle. Most of all it taught me what truly matters in life is family and friends. After all it was my friend George Schaeffer who volunteered his couch for me to sleep on in Des Moines IA. which got me back on my feet and also made me not settle for a 9-5 job. Its also where I met my wife.

A few years ago when we were killing it in the mobile space we were satisfied with success and not really challenging ourselves? then the mobile industry took a huge hit. We had to come up with something new. Because of the adversity AuctionAds was invented and in 4 short months we went from launch to selling the company.

This of course put a bunch of green in our pockets and made us pretty happy with our success but it also meant we needed to come up with new revenue streams (or retire). I am not ready to retire yet so we started fighters.com, busted ass on the elite retreat, and started other ventures also.

Some of the biggest success today came out of the worst dot com crash ever. (highly recommend you read that article). Google being the biggest example.

Every time I have been hit with adversity it has opened up some amazing oppourtunities. Hang in there.

http://www.shoemoney.com/2008/10/10/...r-lost-it-all/

Barefootsies · 10-10-2008, 01:47 PM

Sosa · 10-10-2008, 01:47 PM

I read that earlier today. Shoe does have some good points

Barefootsies · 10-10-2008, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

I read that earlier today. Shoe does have some good points

Yeah. I found it an interesting read as well.

Eventually, when not stirring the pot or doing self promotion, he has a motivational thought.

Lamis · 10-10-2008, 02:12 PM

The EMPIRE is going down down...

Who is guilty?

Those of you who asked for a 1 million loan and could not pay it. Blame yourself guys.

I am foreigner.

Barefootsies · 10-10-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamis

I am foreigner.

ultra100 · 10-10-2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

I read that earlier today. Shoe does have some good points

Definitely some good points there.
Nice article.

Darkland · 10-10-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamis

The EMPIRE is going down down...

Who is guilty?

Those of you who asked for a 1 million loan and could not pay it. Blame yourself guys.

I am foreigner.

Then STFU....

You don't have a clue

halfpint · 10-10-2008, 02:56 PM

We lost everything about three years ago. Our house, our car and most of our belonings.
I lost a very well paid job and could not get a job that paid the same amount of money. In the end we just could not afford to pay the bills we had coming in. Its a shit situation to get into and very hard to get back on top of things. We had to stay with my brother because we had nowhere to live. I will never go down that road again I dont even have credit cards anymore. I only have debit cards so I can only spend what I have. I will never buy a car on HP again. The current car I now have was bought with cash. The worst part of it was seeing my family with no where to live. The last Chritsmas we had in our old house was the worst Christmas my family has ever had. We had no money to even buy a chistmas dinner for our kids and if it wasent for family and friends who gave us hampers we would have had nothing. I will allways be in debt to those who helped us out and never forget what they did for us. But we have worked hard over the last 2 years and are now getting back to the life style we had before. I just do not buy anything on credit and If I cant afford something I save until I can afford it. You never know whats round the corner and if you are earning a good wage now like I was ..Dont waste it on needles things that you dont really need. I learned the hard way and It taught me to repect what I have and never take anything for granted.

Lamis · 10-10-2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkland

Then STFU....

You don't have a clue

heh, sure dude..

I didn't say that, Bernanke and Paulson did.

u got owned, heh.

GrouchyAdmin · 10-10-2008, 03:10 PM

I've reinvented myself a few times, but always end up back on top - it does take persistence and effort.

Agent 488 · 10-10-2008, 03:10 PM

read that whole thing thinking it was you.

GetSCORECash · 10-10-2008, 03:18 PM

you always need to have a backup plan, that is what I keep in mind at all times.

RayBonga · 10-10-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

read that whole thing thinking it was you.

me too

notime · 10-10-2008, 03:26 PM

-Hitting rock bottom taught me the value of money.
-Most of all it taught me what truly matters in life is family and friends.
-It gives you an amazing education that is priceless.
-A lot of people ask me why I do not have super flashy cars or fly first class… or whatever super luxurious thing other cool people are doing… the answer is pretty simple. I have a hard time wasting money. I remember how much it sucked when I hit rock bottom and I never want to feel like that again.

Best wise words I ever read on GFY.
Respect
You know what you are talking about (let me sum it up for readers):
-never loose faith or give up
-always fight & be positive
-adapt or die
-never spend more then is wise unless it gains somehow
-be prepared to learn no matter what
-use money wisely and save for shitty times

But you also believe in "the secret" don't you ?

Mr. Cool Ice · 10-10-2008, 03:29 PM

My friends dad has been a millionaire THREE times. Lost it all TWICE, third time is a charm I guess.

notime · 10-10-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice

My friends dad has been a millionaire THREE times. Lost it all TWICE, third time is a charm I guess.

first time was ambition
second time was experience
third time was wisdom
I guess your friend is still a millionaire now ?

slapass · 10-10-2008, 03:39 PM

Nope never have but I have risked it all several times. I am by nature frugal or used to be so I do have a nice cushion at most times for the unavoidable.

I love how the writer thinks leasing a h2 is frugal....

notoldschool · 10-10-2008, 03:43 PM

nice thread.

Barefootsies · 10-10-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

I love how the writer thinks leasing a h2 is frugal....

_Richard_ · 10-10-2008, 03:57 PM

that's a good read

_Richard_ · 10-10-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

1 - ShoeMoney Petroleum Company -
(I cant believe im actually telling these in public)
Ok Follow me here -
I want to purchase a Gas Station and Give away Free Gas
The catch is like the gas would come out really slow and also you would be limited as to how much you could get per week. (Like max 50 gallons a week).
How do I make money ? EASY - I would setup paintball guns around the gas station with webcams that would let people from the internet take shots at the people filling up there cars with gas. You could charge per shot or a xxxx amounts of shots per month for a set fee. PROBLEM - I talked to a city council member about this and he told me there was a ?no flying ordinance? or something rule within city limits however I could maybe do it in the country?

if you build it.. they will come..

bhutocracy · 10-10-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

1 - ShoeMoney Petroleum Company -
(I cant believe im actually telling these in public)
Ok Follow me here -
I want to purchase a Gas Station and Give away Free Gas
The catch is like the gas would come out really slow and also you would be limited as to how much you could get per week. (Like max 50 gallons a week).
How do I make money ? EASY - I would setup paintball guns around the gas station with webcams that would let people from the internet take shots at the people filling up there cars with gas. You could charge per shot or a xxxx amounts of shots per month for a set fee. PROBLEM - I talked to a city council member about this and he told me there was a ?no flying ordinance? or something rule within city limits however I could maybe do it in the country?

Dear god... That is straight up genius. Best thing i've heard all week.

But on topic.. There is a reason I drive a second hand Ford these days rather than the 5 Series BMW I used to have a couple of years ago. Business is going better than ever but fuck me if i'm going to piss it away like I did in my mid 20's.

camperjohn64 · 10-10-2008, 06:25 PM

I'm doing really shitty right now. Haven't had a job in 4 years. Google adsense banned 4 of my accounts, and I can't generate traffic for shit.

But I will never give up.

d-null · 10-10-2008, 06:31 PM

I am a gambler deep down so money doesn't rule me

I am most inspired by stories like the professional poker player who was up a million and then lost it all and had to go home to tell his wife that they were flat broke

easy come easy go, why worry about it... as long as you have a vehicle you can sleep in if times get really bad then you will survive ok ( and a laptop with a strong wifi card

)

Jayvis · 10-10-2008, 06:41 PM

I am a young gun like you mentioned early in your post, found this thread very interesting. Reminds me a lot of Startup.com (the movie) if anyone here has seen it.

tony286 · 10-10-2008, 06:44 PM

water always seeks its own level

xmas13 · 10-10-2008, 06:51 PM

I lost my virginity.

nitroy2k · 10-10-2008, 07:08 PM

man exelent find .. i wanted to post something big in here but i decided it's better to keep my hands of the keyboard

... but had similar situation...

pigman · 10-10-2008, 07:20 PM

To have nothing is the best motivation builder you can ever get.

Barefootsies · 10-10-2008, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

fuck me if i'm going to piss it away like I did in my mid 20's.

Amen Bro..

SeanLEE · 10-10-2008, 10:29 PM

Im in the process of losing it all... Car- apartment... I have no family or friends-- and everyday I think my mental state is getting worse.... I AM ANGRY!!! Suicide is an option.

I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD GO HUNGRY- but food is limited--- Death to Amerikkka--- If I make out of this one it will be a miracle.

{And I know you big Affiliate companies are shaving- I KNOW IT!!!! Your all thieves!!!! My presence will be felt from the grave you fucking faggots!}

Bojangles · 10-11-2008, 12:12 AM

Great fuckin' post.

Jens Van Assterdam · 10-11-2008, 12:20 AM

A couple of years ago.....
But without losing everything i woudn´t be where i am today.
Kinda everyone i meet with money lately, has lost it all once..

buzzy · 10-11-2008, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint

We lost everything about three years ago. Our house, our car and most of our belonings.
I lost a very well paid job and could not get a job that paid the same amount of money. In the end we just could not afford to pay the bills we had coming in. Its a shit situation to get into and very hard to get back on top of things. We had to stay with my brother because we had nowhere to live. I will never go down that road again I dont even have credit cards anymore. I only have debit cards so I can only spend what I have. I will never buy a car on HP again. The current car I now have was bought with cash. The worst part of it was seeing my family with no where to live. The last Chritsmas we had in our old house was the worst Christmas my family has ever had. We had no money to even buy a chistmas dinner for our kids and if it wasent for family and friends who gave us hampers we would have had nothing. I will allways be in debt to those who helped us out and never forget what they did for us. But we have worked hard over the last 2 years and are now getting back to the life style we had before. I just do not buy anything on credit and If I cant afford something I save until I can afford it. You never know whats round the corner and if you are earning a good wage now like I was ..Dont waste it on needles things that you dont really need. I learned the hard way and It taught me to repect what I have and never take anything for granted.

That's life in pompey folks...j/k

Respect

MrMaxwell · 10-11-2008, 07:17 PM

Look it, don't ever drink, don't buy the finest automobiles, don't trust human beings outside of good hard reason

At one time I was making more than probably 90% of you and now I make probably less than 90% of you.. If you fuck around playing games you might fall, you might not make it back up either. I was young when I made mine. I never bought a car over $5000.. one smart thing I did. Thanks to that I survived alot longer than I would have when I fell off.

Poverty hurts like words can't say.
Let's do it like this, it feels like a reverse blowjob.

Be cool and play your position, don't worry about Mr. Jones with a better car, don't trust the wrong woman, DO NOT DRINK

MrMaxwell · 10-11-2008, 07:24 PM

I never made millions but I made good and I was too young for an example I had a 30k month and it was all gone in a couple more man, was doing about half that almost every month and I was a young ass, but so stupid, don't ever stay two bit- build some thing solid. Grey area bullshit doesn't last.

I still eat pretty good and enjoy alot of blowjobs but I don't even own a home, now, that drinking will bring you down, that and wasting money are the two killers if a scandalous ass bitch like I got ahold of doesn't do it. She didn't get a dime of mine but I became a drunken maniac when she was gone, man, never saw any of it coming I was so drunk.

10-10-2008, 01:46 PM	#1
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Have Your Ever Lost It All? We are headed for some wicked hard times. Some of us are already feeling the sting. Some of you are just getting out of college with a monster load of debt and are going to have a hard time finding a job. Some of you are going to lose your jobs and be out of work for quite a bit of time. Some of you are about to hit rock bottom. Some of you have hit it years ago. Some of you wont hit rock bottom for years to come. I hit rock bottom about 8 years ago. I was fired from my job and lived on credit cards for months while trying find another job. After several months of no luck and not being able to make credit card payments, the credit card companies started to close my accounts and send me to debt collectors. I soon was evicted from my apartment after missing payment(s). So there I was.. 25 years old, about 50k in debt with a lot of it being super high interest credit card debt spread among about 5 different cards, no job, no place to live and if that wasn?t bad enough I was also super fat. Rock bottom. I will tell you its the best thing that ever happen to me. Its when you hit rock bottom that you find yourself and it gives you an amazing education that is priceless. At the time it happens its very painful but if you can fight through it and do the hardwork that needs to be done the rewards will be that much sweeter on the other side. A lot of people ask me why I do not have super flashy cars or fly first class? or whatever super luxurious thing other cool people are doing? the answer is pretty simple. I have a hard time wasting money. I remember how much it sucked when I hit rock bottom and I never want to feel like that again. Some people might hear that then look at my h2 and think that is flashy?. guess what? Its a lease and it was practically free because we traded out work with the hummer dealership. Hitting rock bottom taught me the value of money. It also taught me to hustle. Most of all it taught me what truly matters in life is family and friends. After all it was my friend George Schaeffer who volunteered his couch for me to sleep on in Des Moines IA. which got me back on my feet and also made me not settle for a 9-5 job. Its also where I met my wife. A few years ago when we were killing it in the mobile space we were satisfied with success and not really challenging ourselves? then the mobile industry took a huge hit. We had to come up with something new. Because of the adversity AuctionAds was invented and in 4 short months we went from launch to selling the company. This of course put a bunch of green in our pockets and made us pretty happy with our success but it also meant we needed to come up with new revenue streams (or retire). I am not ready to retire yet so we started fighters.com, busted ass on the elite retreat, and started other ventures also. Some of the biggest success today came out of the worst dot com crash ever. (highly recommend you read that article). Google being the biggest example. Every time I have been hit with adversity it has opened up some amazing oppourtunities. Hang in there. http://www.shoemoney.com/2008/10/10/...r-lost-it-all/ __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

10-10-2008, 01:47 PM	#2
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	__________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

10-10-2008, 02:56 PM	#9
halfpint GFY's Halfpint Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 15,223	We lost everything about three years ago. Our house, our car and most of our belonings. I lost a very well paid job and could not get a job that paid the same amount of money. In the end we just could not afford to pay the bills we had coming in. Its a shit situation to get into and very hard to get back on top of things. We had to stay with my brother because we had nowhere to live. I will never go down that road again I dont even have credit cards anymore. I only have debit cards so I can only spend what I have. I will never buy a car on HP again. The current car I now have was bought with cash. The worst part of it was seeing my family with no where to live. The last Chritsmas we had in our old house was the worst Christmas my family has ever had. We had no money to even buy a chistmas dinner for our kids and if it wasent for family and friends who gave us hampers we would have had nothing. I will allways be in debt to those who helped us out and never forget what they did for us. But we have worked hard over the last 2 years and are now getting back to the life style we had before. I just do not buy anything on credit and If I cant afford something I save until I can afford it. You never know whats round the corner and if you are earning a good wage now like I was ..Dont waste it on needles things that you dont really need. I learned the hard way and It taught me to repect what I have and never take anything for granted. __________________ Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net

10-10-2008, 03:10 PM	#11
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10-10-2008, 03:18 PM	#13
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10-10-2008, 01:47 PM	#3
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	I read that earlier today. Shoe does have some good points

10-10-2008, 02:12 PM	#5
Lamis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 961	The EMPIRE is going down down... Who is guilty? Those of you who asked for a 1 million loan and could not pay it. Blame yourself guys. I am foreigner.

10-10-2008, 03:10 PM	#12
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	read that whole thing thinking it was you.

10-10-2008, 03:26 PM	#15
notime Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cyberspace Posts: 8,022	-Hitting rock bottom taught me the value of money. -Most of all it taught me what truly matters in life is family and friends. -It gives you an amazing education that is priceless. -A lot of people ask me why I do not have super flashy cars or fly first class… or whatever super luxurious thing other cool people are doing… the answer is pretty simple. I have a hard time wasting money. I remember how much it sucked when I hit rock bottom and I never want to feel like that again. Best wise words I ever read on GFY. Respect You know what you are talking about (let me sum it up for readers): -never loose faith or give up -always fight & be positive -adapt or die -never spend more then is wise unless it gains somehow -be prepared to learn no matter what -use money wisely and save for shitty times But you also believe in "the secret" don't you ?

10-10-2008, 03:29 PM	#16
Mr. Cool Ice Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,289	My friends dad has been a millionaire THREE times. Lost it all TWICE, third time is a charm I guess.

10-10-2008, 03:39 PM	#18
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Nope never have but I have risked it all several times. I am by nature frugal or used to be so I do have a nice cushion at most times for the unavoidable. I love how the writer thinks leasing a h2 is frugal....

10-10-2008, 03:43 PM	#19
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	nice thread. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

10-10-2008, 03:57 PM	#21
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	that's a good read

10-10-2008, 06:25 PM	#24
camperjohn64 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,531	I'm doing really shitty right now. Haven't had a job in 4 years. Google adsense banned 4 of my accounts, and I can't generate traffic for shit. But I will never give up. __________________ www.gimmiegirlproductions.com

10-10-2008, 06:31 PM	#25
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	I am a gambler deep down so money doesn't rule me I am most inspired by stories like the professional poker player who was up a million and then lost it all and had to go home to tell his wife that they were flat broke easy come easy go, why worry about it... as long as you have a vehicle you can sleep in if times get really bad then you will survive ok ( and a laptop with a strong wifi card ) __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

10-10-2008, 06:41 PM	#26
Jayvis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 5,428	I am a young gun like you mentioned early in your post, found this thread very interesting. Reminds me a lot of Startup.com (the movie) if anyone here has seen it.

10-10-2008, 06:44 PM	#27
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	water always seeks its own level

10-10-2008, 06:51 PM	#28
xmas13 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GFY Posts: 5,176	I lost my virginity. __________________ ICQ 557504926

10-10-2008, 07:08 PM	#29
nitroy2k Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 503	man exelent find .. i wanted to post something big in here but i decided it's better to keep my hands of the keyboard ... but had similar situation...

10-10-2008, 07:20 PM	#30
pigman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 760	To have nothing is the best motivation builder you can ever get.

10-10-2008, 10:29 PM	#32
SeanLEE Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,556	Im in the process of losing it all... Car- apartment... I have no family or friends-- and everyday I think my mental state is getting worse.... I AM ANGRY!!! Suicide is an option. I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD GO HUNGRY- but food is limited--- Death to Amerikkka--- If I make out of this one it will be a miracle. {And I know you big Affiliate companies are shaving- I KNOW IT!!!! Your all thieves!!!! My presence will be felt from the grave you fucking faggots!} __________________ I spammed in threads! Last edited by SeanLEE; 10-10-2008 at 10:31 PM..

10-11-2008, 12:12 AM	#33
Bojangles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,419	Great fuckin' post.

10-11-2008, 12:20 AM	#34
Jens Van Assterdam The Dupre Pimp Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Koh Samui Posts: 6,677	A couple of years ago..... But without losing everything i woudn´t be where i am today. Kinda everyone i meet with money lately, has lost it all once.. __________________ Read TOS for signature rules

10-11-2008, 07:17 PM	#36
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	Look it, don't ever drink, don't buy the finest automobiles, don't trust human beings outside of good hard reason At one time I was making more than probably 90% of you and now I make probably less than 90% of you.. If you fuck around playing games you might fall, you might not make it back up either. I was young when I made mine. I never bought a car over $5000.. one smart thing I did. Thanks to that I survived alot longer than I would have when I fell off. Poverty hurts like words can't say. Let's do it like this, it feels like a reverse blowjob. Be cool and play your position, don't worry about Mr. Jones with a better car, don't trust the wrong woman, DO NOT DRINK

10-11-2008, 07:24 PM	#37
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	I never made millions but I made good and I was too young for an example I had a 30k month and it was all gone in a couple more man, was doing about half that almost every month and I was a young ass, but so stupid, don't ever stay two bit- build some thing solid. Grey area bullshit doesn't last. I still eat pretty good and enjoy alot of blowjobs but I don't even own a home, now, that drinking will bring you down, that and wasting money are the two killers if a scandalous ass bitch like I got ahold of doesn't do it. She didn't get a dime of mine but I became a drunken maniac when she was gone, man, never saw any of it coming I was so drunk.